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Topic: Expose - When I Looked At Him
Posted By: EdisonLite
Subject: Expose - When I Looked At Him
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 3:09am
Aaron mentioned the first note of Nazareth's "Love Hurts" being chopped off. This reminds me: Does anyone have a version of the single mix of Expose's "When I Looked At Him" where it doesn't sound like the first note is partially chopped off?



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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 1:46pm
Hey Gordon:

I have the 45 version of this song on their Greatest Hits collection.


Posted By: Robert
Date Posted: 21 February 2010 at 4:42pm
Hi guys, I know you'll appreciate my real rapid response on this... You're right, EdisonLite. Nice catch. I just compared my DJ 45 (AS1-9868)of this song to the GH version and indeed, the 1st 1.7 3-note part of the intro is missing. Couldn't get it from the LP version either as it sounded entirely different. So, like any self-respecting forum fan, I took it from a clean 45 and it sounds fine. Now my next question, eriejwg, does your CD have the chopped off intro or is the correct one. No hurry on this (haw!!)


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 21 February 2010 at 5:04pm
Doesn't sound chopped off, but I'm sure Pat would have added a note to the 45 version description detailing it if it was true.


Posted By: Robert
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 6:45am
I'm sure he would have, and when he compares the 45 and the LP versions, he will probably want to. It doesn't sound chopped off because it's a clean edit of the first 3 introductory notes (1.77 seconds). Trust me, it is true. Don't believe it? Get a 45 and compare for yourself.


Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 1:00pm
This is odd as my commercil copy of "When I Looked At Him" matches the cd appearance on Greatest Hits. My matrix number is AS1 9868 SA SP1. Could there be 2 pressings of this 45?


Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 4:32pm
I have the same 45 as Pat, with the same matrix number, and it matches the
version on my Greatest Hits CD.


Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 11:50pm
My stock commercial 45 have the same matrix number as Pat's and Paul's. Also the 45 is identical to the commercial cassette single version. (Actually the cassingle run time is :01 shorter than the 45.)

--abagon


Posted By: Robert
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 7:18pm
Well, Pat's comment intrigued me, so I examined my 45 and saw the same numbers. I noticed mine was a promo, but other than that there was no difference. So I dug out the CD in question, thinking there might have been 2 versions of the CD, and also thinking I'd like to prove that I'm not out of my mind. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to prove either. In fact, quite the contrary. There it was - the same one that you guys have been reporting. And the only possible explanation is that, although I thought I had checked it with the CD, my comparison was with what was ripped onto my computer from the CD; and in trimming the dead air before and after (which had been done years ago), I somehow much have clipped off that first 1.7 seconds. So, with hat in hand, here is my peace offering: you guys may put a pie of your choice in my face (with the exception of a cow pie, that is). Pat, you may put two pies in my face (rank has privileges, you know). If you cannot find my face, then anyone's face will do. This offer is good through March 31st and is void where state law prohibits pies in faces. Seriously, guys, sorry for the mistake.


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 17 October 2010 at 7:39am
Besides the single mix and album mix of "When I Looked At Him", the "What You Don't Know" CD also has an extra cut at the end called the "When I Looked At Him (Suave Mix)", clocking in around 7 minutes. However, I've also seen listings for other versions of this song clocking in at 7 minutes, one called the "remix" and one called the "Acoustic version". I've also seen a different Expose CD that lists a 7 minute version called the "Acoustic Version/Suave Mix". I'm starting to think that maybe there's just one 7 minute version with all these descriptions, but does anyone know for sure? Are there actually two different 7 minute versions? Pat, your database lists a 6:59 "acoustic version" on the "Dance Remixes" CD (which I don't have). Can you compare that version with the "Suave Mix" at the end of the Expose/"What You Don't Know" CD and determine if they are one and the same? Thanks.


Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 18 October 2010 at 6:55pm
The full title on the "Dance Remixes" cd is "Suave Mix" (acoustic version) and yes it is identical to the version found on the "What You Don't Know" cd track 13, the "Suave Mix".


Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 03 March 2025 at 1:59am
I have a couple of things to note regarding Expose's "When I Looked at Him":

First, the database currently doesn't mention that CD copies of the What You Don't Know album (Arista 8532) contains a 7:00 version of "When I Looked at Him" called the "Suave Mix" (as Gordon has previously pointed out). This is probably worth noting in the database since the 7:00 "Suave Mix" also appears on Expose's Greatest Dance Mixes CD (Thump 206579024), which is presently designated with a generic "remix" comment. I initially thought the "Suave Mix" might be a 12" single version; however, I am unable to find any evidence of a 12" single release for this song (there is no such listing on the Discogs or Ebay websites). Therefore, the What You Don't Know CD album appears to be the origin of this version.

Second, commercial single copies of "When I Looked at Him" all contain the following track listing and run times:

1) Single version - 4:17
2) "Suave Mix" (Acoustic Version) - 5:19

This is pertinent because the "'Suave Mix' (Acoustic Version)" currently appears on one database CD with the comment: (suave mix). That said, I'm thinking it would be worth expanding that particular comment so that it reads more completely and accurately, such as:

("Suave Mix" (Acoustic Version), which appears on the flip-side of cassette and vinyl single copies).

By the way, I'm just curious if anyone recalls hearing (or playing) this version of "When I Looked at Him" played on the radio back in the day? (I personally do not.)


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 March 2025 at 8:30am
Thanks for this update, Todd! I modified the database to add these details.

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Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 03 March 2025 at 8:55am
Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:


("Suave Mix" (Acoustic Version), which appears on the
flip-side of cassette and vinyl single copies).


By the way, I'm just curious if anyone recalls hearing
(or playing) this version of "When I Looked at Him"
played on the radio back in the day? (I personally do
not.)



I love the "suave mix (acoustic version)" and remember
hearing it a few times in mid-afternoon on my go-to top
40 station. WMJQ (102.5 from Buffalo) sometimes would
play either 12-inch single versions or other varying
versions during the mid-day shift at times in the late
'80s. I remember hearing the 12-inch version of Taylor
Dayne's "I'll Always Love You" around the same time.

When I got the 45 I was aware of this mix and that's
usually the version I'll play whenever I'm in the mood to
hear the song.


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 2:01pm
"When I Looked at Him" was/is my favorite song of 1989. I love the Suave Mix, too - and only knew of it being on the "What You Don't Know" album at the time. I knew it was 7 minutes but was unaware of the 5:19 acoustic version until now. Is this just an edit of the 7:00 version, and if so, I'm curious if anyone knows where the edit points are. As much as I love the Suave Mix, the original single mix is my favorite. And if I recall correctly, the album mix was pretty muddy compared to the single (my memory has been tested a lot since coming back to this chat a few days ago! I haven't thought about these things for years)


Posted By: MangoMusic
Date Posted: 18 May 2025 at 7:12am
Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

I have a couple of things to note regarding Expose's "When I Looked at Him":

First, the database currently doesn't mention that CD copies of the What You Don't Know album (Arista 8532) contains a 7:00 version of "When I Looked at Him" called the "Suave Mix" (as Gordon has previously pointed out). This is probably worth noting in the database since the 7:00 "Suave Mix" also appears on Expose's Greatest Dance Mixes CD (Thump 206579024), which is presently designated with a generic "remix" comment. I initially thought the "Suave Mix" might be a 12" single version; however, I am unable to find any evidence of a 12" single release for this song (there is no such listing on the Discogs or Ebay websites). Therefore, the What You Don't Know CD album appears to be the origin of this version.

Second, commercial single copies of "When I Looked at Him" all contain the following track listing and run times:

1) Single version - 4:17
2) "Suave Mix" (Acoustic Version) - 5:19

This is pertinent because the "'Suave Mix' (Acoustic Version)" currently appears on one database CD with the comment: (suave mix). That said, I'm thinking it would be worth expanding that particular comment so that it reads more completely and accurately, such as:

("Suave Mix" (Acoustic Version), which appears on the flip-side of cassette and vinyl single copies).

By the way, I'm just curious if anyone recalls hearing (or playing) this version of "When I Looked at Him" played on the radio back in the day? (I personally do not.)


There also exists a shorter edit of the Suave Mix (Accoustic Version) which runs at 4.02.  The intro is quite poorly edited (in my opinion) and features an early fade.  It can be found on the UK/EU CD Single.


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 18 May 2025 at 1:39pm
My memory fails me again. It turns out I have:

"Suave Mix" (Acoustic Version) - 5:19

It's on the Expose "Playlist" CD. I gave it a listen. Without A-B'ing, it seems like an edited version of what's on the album.

And I didn't even know about this 4:02 edit - too bad it's poorly edited, Ben (MangoMusic). Guess I'll skip searching for that UK/EU CD single.


Posted By: MangoMusic
Date Posted: 19 May 2025 at 12:44pm
The UK often got the short end of the stick with the mixes of US hits! I still shudder when I think about playing the UK version of 'Tell Me Why' and hearing the terrible single mix by Dakeyne instead of the much better Radio Remix Edit that I heard on US radio.  The money I spent on import CDs trying to track down radio versions and the frustration when the CD didn't contain the version I'd been listening to!

On the 3 disc reissue of the "What You don't Know" album, Cherry Pop listed the 5.19 Suave Mix as "When I Looked at Him ('Suave' Mix) (Acoustic Version - U.S. Edit)", it's probably safe to assume they wanted to differentiate it from the shorter European Edit as I don't think it was listed as the U.S. Edit on any previous release.

The disc is in storage but I have a FLAC copy of the 4.02 Edit should you wish to review it?


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 May 2025 at 2:30pm
Sure, Ben, I'd be curious to hear it. I'll PM you my email address. Thanks.



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