Janet Jackson - "Nasty"
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Topic: Janet Jackson - "Nasty"
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: Janet Jackson - "Nasty"
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 7:41pm
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Here are instructions for creating the 45 edit from the LP version on Control:
Keep 0:00.0-0:01.2 of the LP version. That's "Gimme a beat." Edit out the silence between 0:01.2-0:01.4. That's right - the 45 tightens up the gap between "Gimme a beat" and said beat. It's actually about 0.24 seconds of audio that's removed. Keep the 8 beats between 0:01.4-0:06.1. Edit on downbeat. Remove the 8 beats from 0:06.1-0:10.7. Keep the 2 beats from 0:10.7-0:11.3. Edit on snare. Remove the 8 beats from 0:11.3-0:15.9. Keep the 8 beats from 0:15.9-0:20.6. Edit on snare. Remove the 16 beats from 0:20.6-0:29.8. Keep 0:29.8-4:03.4 (end) of LP version. Your mixdown will have edits at 0:01.2, 0:05.8, 0:06.4 and 0:11.1, and will run 3:44.6. The true 45 and the Control CD version run about the same speed, at 103.7 or 103.8 BPM. |
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 12:16am
| As discussed in another thread, the exact 45 version of "Nasty" can't be re-created from the LP version, because of a "wind" sound effect on the LP version that isn't on the 45. The sound effect is somewhere near the 2 1/2 minute mark right before the line "Nastyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy boys." |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 3:02am
| I think you're short a "y" there, Aaron. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 9:29am
| LOL :-) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 12:01pm
| I just edited my post and added the extra "y." Good catch, Brian! |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 3:43pm
| ROFL Maybe we could call this: (45 version with extra "y" in "Nastyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy")! |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 4:37pm
| This post has turned funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...or, did I forget a 'y'? |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 09 September 2011 at 6:43am
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For some reason, this post shows up on a search for "nasty" but not "janet nasty" or "janet jackson nasty". Odd.
I wasted a bunch of time recreating the 45 edit, which is detailed above, only to realize the 45 is a very slight remix of the LP version. I think the drums on the 45 have more effects on them than the LP version. To my ears, they're just "bigger" on the 45. At the waveform level, it looks to me like the attack on the snare is shaped a little differently, with a little more sustain, but I'd like a second opinion. By the way, the true 45 mix (if it is indeed a different mix) is on The "A" List Disc 33, which uses the same analog transfer as GoldDisc 936, only with its absolute polarity inverted. Both run at 103.8 BPM throughout, both appear to have noise reduction, and I'd guess that both are originally taken from vinyl. These two match my 45 exactly. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 05 June 2015 at 11:14am
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The 45 mix can be found on this German compilation as
well. It is definitely not taken from vinyl, no noise reduction, sibilance or background noise. http://www.discogs.com/Various-High-Life- B%C3%A4renstark/release/1036229 |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 08 June 2015 at 5:04pm
| Great find, elcoleccionista! |
Posted By: Oddbjorn
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 4:02pm
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The CD 'Design Of A Decade 1986 - 1996 - Janet Jackson - A&M 540 422-2' (1995 - international version) has a length of 3:44. I think this is the 45 mix but I have never checked since I don't own the vinyl 45 (it might be missing an Y - lol) ------------- OddNor |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 10:59pm
It's not. There's a slight difference. |
Oddbjorn wrote:Posted By: Oddbjorn
Date Posted: 11 June 2015 at 5:40pm
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Thank you Brian and Johann for clearing this up. I have ordered the German compilation. Could it be a US / UK difference in 45 mix, or just a 'miss' when they created this CD? ------------- OddNor |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 11 June 2015 at 6:58pm
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All of the edits on both the US and international releases of Design Of A Decade were newly created in 1995 for that release.
Even though tracks like "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" run the same length and have approximately the same edit points as the original single releases, they are unfortunately not the exact original masters. The international edition features a higher number of shorter edits (many based on the original single edits) to accommodate two additional songs not found on the US release ("Whoops Now" and "The Best Things In Life Are Free"). On this edition, even one of the NEW songs, "Twenty Foreplay", is edited! |
Posted By: Oddbjorn
Date Posted: 14 June 2015 at 2:36pm
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Thank you Underground Dub for your must valuable info (but very disappointing); So I have started to try to pick up the audit versions for the 45's edit on other sources than 'Design..'. But this will probably cost me my whole music budget both june and july (and perhaps more)...
Also a question to crapfromthepast (I always stand by your judgement about the best sound CD); Will you suggest 'No 1's' , 'Deacde..' or 'Icons' as the best pick of choice? ------------- OddNor |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 14 June 2015 at 6:34pm
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I wasn't impressed with Decade, but I haven't heard No. 1's or Icons. Sorry I can't be more help here... ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 14 June 2015 at 8:19pm
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Icon shares the same mastering as Number Ones which is actually in most cases the Design of A Decade masters EQ'ed and turned up WAY too loud.
Of the three, Design is the clear winner for sound quality, and Number Ones for the scope of content, though the entire Number Ones release was haphazard at best. See this thread for more details: http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5274 &KW=janet+number+ones - http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5274 &KW=janet+number+ones |
Posted By: Oddbjorn
Date Posted: 16 June 2015 at 8:00am
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Thank you both for your help. I was not aware of the other thread. Sorry about that. 'Numer Ones' is ordered. ------------- OddNor |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 24 January 2019 at 2:02pm
These are the only two CD sources for the 45 version? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 24 January 2019 at 2:33pm
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Several years ago, I ordered the German compilation,
High Life - Bärenstark!. Janet Jackson sounds very nice on this CD. I just checked Discogs and you can get a copy of the same CD for as little as $5.56. ------------- John Gallagher https://www.johngallagher.com - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment https://www.johngallagher.com/photobooth - Snapblast Photo Booth Erie, PA |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 January 2019 at 2:34pm
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And here's the direct link to the disc John is talking about:
https://www.discogs.com/release/1036229 - https://www.discogs.c om/release/1036229 ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 15 March 2025 at 4:31am
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There were two different commercial 12" vinyl single releases for Janet Jackson's "Nasty"... The first was an "Extended" version with an actual run time of 6:05, not 6:00 as stated on the record label. The second consisted of the "Cool Summer Mix Part I" on the A-side with an actual run time of 7:56 (printed time: 7:57) and the "Cool Summer Mix Part II" on the B-side running 10:08 (printed time: 10:09).
Fortunately, all three versions appear on one domestic CD release. And because there were two separate commercial 12" single releases, I might in this instance respectfully suggest updating the associated database comments, where appropriate, as follows: ("Extended" 12" single version) ("Cool Summer Mix Part I" 12" single version) ("Cool Summer Mix Part II") |