Couldnt Get It Right
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Topic: Couldnt Get It Right
Posted By: bwolfe
Subject: Couldnt Get It Right
Date Posted: 06 December 2007 at 11:19am
Has anyone ever noticed the 45 version of "Couldn't Get It Right" by Climax Blues Band differs from the version heard on Then Totally Oldies?
I just found the promo single and the first vocal line is not double tracked like the commonly heard version.
I have their Gold Plated album which I have to locate to see if the single was slightly different in vocals.
------------- the way it was heard on the radio
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 06 December 2007 at 4:09pm
Hmm... interesting find. Does the promo single differ from the 45 version? I do notice in the database that version (and a couple others) run only 3:10, whereas most CD versions run 3:15.
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 06 December 2007 at 5:58pm
Brian W. wrote:
Hmm... interesting find. Does the promo single differ from the 45 version? I do notice in the database that version (and a couple others) run only 4:10, whereas most CD versions run 4:15. | Brian, my friend, you no doubt meant to post the above times as 3:10 and 3:15, not 4:10 to 4:15. I have just timed my commercial 45, as well as both the mono and stereo sides of my promo 45, and all have a listed time of (3:14) and an actual time of (3:13). Also, all of the above 45 versions feature a single-tracked, "Time was driftin'", first three opening words sung. However, in popping on my Rhino "Super Hits Of The 70's, Vol. 19" CD, I ALSO heard those first three words double-tracked, as noted earlier in this post. Nice catch, bwolfe! I wonder if all database CDs have this version? It certainly does warrant a database notation, because the Rhino CD version I just played isn't the 45 version.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 06 December 2007 at 6:06pm
AM Gold: 1977 is double tracked as well.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 06 December 2007 at 6:48pm
jimct wrote:
Brian, my friend, you no doubt meant to post the above times as 3:10 and 3:15, not 4:10 to 4:15. |
Whatcha talkin' 'bout? It says 3:10 and 3:15. :D
Honestly, this was a great find. Good ears, bwolfe!
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 8:12am
My Sound of the Seventies - 1977: Take Two version sounds double tracked, but not as evident as AM Gold: 1977. Anyone else come across a version on CD that's not?
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 3:02pm
"Super Hits of the '70s Vol. 19" also has the first line with the double-tracked vocal (though I think it would probably more accurately be called a harmony vocal).
I own the CD "Mellow Rock Hits of the '70s: Ventura Highway," but I can't find it at the moment, so not sure about that one.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 3:27pm
Billboard Top Hits 1977 does as well. And I would guess (but it's only a guess) that if BTH 1977 and HAND Vol. 19, both Rhino releases, have the harmony vocal on the first line, then so would the Rhino Ventura Highway release (that Mellow Rock CD series used LP versions more often than Rhino's other series, which usually used 45 versions if available).
I'm tired--too much italicizing. :)
------------- Doug
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 5:17pm
I ordered a promo 45 last night, so will be anxious to hear the difference. If it's not on the 45 as Jim mentioned before, then would all sources for this song listed in the database be LP versions?
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 4:22pm
My vinyl LP "Gold Plated" does not have double tracked vocals on the opening line nor does my commercial 45.
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 4:36pm
Pat, I don't think any of us have heard a vinyl 45 with double-tracked vocals. We were wondering whether you knew of any CDs that were this same way also. So far, all of the feedback has been that all CDs DO contain the double-tracked first line, meaning none are the correct 45 version.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 9:54pm
jimct wrote:
So far, all of the feedback has been that all CDs DO contain the double-tracked first line, meaning none are the correct 45 version. |
And, even worse, it looks like no CDs have the correct LP version either, based on Pat's information above.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 10:31pm
So, we have a 'neither the 45 nor LP version' ?
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 12:06am
Is the double-tracked opening verse the only difference between all the CD versions in the database and the 45/LP? If so, I think a "neither the 45 nor LP version" comment may be a bit excessive here because database users might be misled into believing that the CD versions are somehow considerably different than the 45/LP. I would be more in favor of noting a comment something like this: (the opening verse is mixed differently than on the DJ 45, commercial 45, and LP version.
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 1:31pm
Just completed reviewing every cd in the database that contains this song and only 1 cd has the correct version. Believe it or not that cd is the reissue of the "Gold Plated" album on the Fuel 2000 label back in 2005. For those of you that have not followed the Fuel 2000 label releases, they have now turned into what the old Dominion label used to be i.e. reissues of rerecordings and live recordings, primarily junk.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 2:10pm
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 3:44pm
Thanks, Pat, for all the time and trouble involved with you listening to all of the CDs, and I will now pick up that "Gold Plated" Fuel 2000 release. I also appreciate your info about the decline of the "Fuel 2000" label. I was always happy with the pieces I'd purchased, and had no idea they'd turned into a "Dominion"-type label - I will now steer clear of them.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 11:26am
Just got a 2 sided white label stereo promo 45 on this one, distributed by GRT of Canada.
Deadwax is 1147-736-S1. No harmony or double tracked vocal.
Listed time is 3:14, actual is 3:16. On the label, says from the Sire Records LP
Gold Plated.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 10:22pm
Just revisited this song. I notice that there is another double-tracked vocal in the first verse on the "neither" version. The words "restless feeling" are double-tracked on the "neither" CDs, but not on the 45. Also, listening carefully in headphones, the mix is ever-so-slightly different between the two. I don't hear any different instrumentation, but the placement of instruments (left, center, right) is slightly changed on the "neither" mix.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 06 December 2008 at 7:44am
eriejwg wrote:
Just got a 2 sided white label stereo promo 45 on this one, distributed by GRT of Canada.
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Was this an original 1977 release or a later re-issue? Stereo/stereo promos were the exception in the U.S. in the 70s, AM music radio hung on longer in Canada (mostly due to government content restrictions for FMs) so you'd think labels would have continued mono promo copies longer there if anything.
Any American Sire promos I've ever seen had the same yellow label as the commercial copies with promotional notation and mono/stereo (or mix differences in the 80s) info added.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 06 December 2008 at 8:11am
Steve:
It says ©1976 Sire records, Inc. Manufactured and distributed by GRT of Canada Ltd., 3816 Victoria Pk. Ave.,
Willowdale, Ontario.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 16 October 2015 at 6:47pm
Still love this song. At one point, I borrowed a friend's bass just so I could teach myself to play the bassline. It's one of the easier basslines in the pop world.
The original 45 and LP versions didn't have any harmonies on the opening lines.
The first CD to include the song was Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1977 (1991), where it runs 3:15. It sounds pretty good, but it's a previously unreleased mix that narrows the soundstage and includes harmonies on the opening lines. The differences are subtle, so it's no surprise that it went undetected for so many years. There are other previously unreleased mixes that first appeared on the Billboard Top Hits discs, including "Ring My Bell", "Heaven Is A Place On Earth", and "Wild Wild West".
The following discs all use the same analog transfer as Billboard Top Hits 1977:- Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 19 (1993; digitally identical)
- Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 3 1976-1977 (1993; left/right channels reversed - avoid)
- Rhino's Mellow Rock Hits Ventura Highway (1997; digitally identical)
- Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 24 1977 (1997; digitally exactly 1 dB quieter)
- Madacy's Rock On 1977 Dance Dance Dance (1998)
There's a different analog transfer on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 17 1977 Take Two (1991), which chops off the first 0.02 seconds of the intro, and fades early to 3:02. There's an RE-1 rereissue of this disc, which is digitally exactly 1.9 dB louder than the original released (no RE-1 in the matrix number). Avoid these for this song.
There's another analog transfer on Disky UK's 8-CD Wow That Was The 70's (1999), which is a tiny bit compressed compared to the others, and fades a little early to around 3:09. Avoid.
If you have to have this previously unreleased mix on CD, go for Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1977 (1991).
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 26 October 2015 at 9:03pm
US Sire Promo (ABC distributed) has a mono side (folded
down) and the single tracked first verse.
------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 28 October 2015 at 3:22pm
The best place to find the single version of this song is
on the album from which it came.
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