C + C Music Factory - Here We Go
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Topic: C + C Music Factory - Here We Go
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: C + C Music Factory - Here We Go
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 5:00pm
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I have a commercial 45 (Columbia 38-73772) for this song, and a few questions that go along with it.
The A-side is:
My questions are these: (1) I have three commercially available 45s for the Gonna Make You Sweat album:
(2) The "Radio Edit" of "Gonna Make You Sweat" is slower than the common versions, and is about 1.5 seconds longer as a result. (113.4 BPM for 45's "Radio Edit", 114.6 or 114.7 BPM for everything else). Aside from being about 1.1% slower, I couldn't hear any difference between the "Radio Edit" and the versions found on a whole lot of compilations - is this different from the LP version? ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:04pm
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:06pm
If my memory serves me right, didn't this song have the chorus totally resung by a different vocalist? They ran into some legal issues with "Gonna Make You Sweat" when they put a much more attractive lip syncher in place of Martha Wash for the video. As a result, I believe they replaced Martha's vocals on the single version for "Hmmmm" and "Here We Go." (My memory is hazy on this, since I haven't heard the LP versions in years.) Regarding "Gonna Make You Sweat," this may be a case where the "Radio Edit" ended up being the LP version, because I don't know of any difference either. Why it's slower on the b-side is probably due to a tape speed mastering error. |
crapfromthepast wrote:Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:33pm
The early '90s were a wierd time for vinyl 45s. I could never figure out why things were released the way we were ... and why certain other deserving songs (i.e. high-charting) never were on 45s. The only thing I can think of with this song was that there was still a demand for 45s around that time, and I guess Columbia figured they could sell more of it by putting the No. 1 "Gonna Make You Sweat" on the B-side of the current hit. I have a friend who owns a record store in Syracuse, and I remember him telling me both of those "Here We Go" singles were out within a couple of weeks of each other. |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:04pm
I'll bet that final 45 release ("Sweat" b/w "Here We Go") was destined for jukeboxes, not consumers. I'm sure jukebox operators preferred to allocate their real estate to records with two hits. By '92 or '93, most 45 releases had two "singles" backed together. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 9:34am
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That's a very good point, actually. In '91, I was on a jukebox service, and I'd get a nice package of about 5 45s every week or two. The company is long gone - "Record Source International", based in Mineral Wells, Texas. It was fun while it lasted.
The "Here We Go"/"Gonna Make You Sweat" 45 had a barcode, for what it's worth, so it wasn't as obvious as some of the later EMI 45s that had the "For Jukeboxes Only" on the label. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 1:22pm
That's what I was going to suggest... it was probably a jukebox reissue. |
Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 5:08pm
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So, is the Rock & Roll Radio Mix considered the official 45 version? I have the CD single (Columbia 44K 73689)
which has the following tracks: 1. The Clivilles/Cole Rockin' In '91 Mix - Zelma Sings (listed and actual 10:01) 2. The Rockin' In '91 Dub - The Cole/Clivilles House Mix (listed 7:42, actual 7:47) 3. The C & C Radio Mix (listed and actual 4:32) 4. The R & B Radio Mix (listed and actual 4:32) 5. The Rock & Roll Radio Mix (listed and actual 4:41) I don't have the cassette single for this; well, not the official cassette single, anyway. I got my cassette single (BVT 23036) through an offer from Pop-Tarts (you know, send in proof-of-purchase, etc.) Side A has "Here We Go, Let's Rock & Roll" (C & C Radio Mix) and Side B has Clivilles + Cole "A Deeper Love" (Radio Remix Edit). Which version is on the official cassette single? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 6:09pm
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Ed can probably help out with the cassette single info, but in an effort to shed light on radio airplay, here is my promo CD single info:
C+C Music Factory Presents Freedom Williams And Zelma Davis-"Here We Go" (CSK 73690) 1-The C & C Radio Mix (listed & actual 4:32) 2-The R & B Radio Mix (listed & actual 4:32) 3-The Rock & Roll Radio Mix (listed 4:41; actual 4:42) 4-The Clivilles/Cole Rockin' In '91 Mix (listed 9:31; actual 9:30) 5-The Rockin' In '91 Dub (listed 0:30; actual 0:29) (these short times are not a typo) 6-The Cole/Clivilles House Mix (listed 7:42; actual 7:44) FYI, we played Cut 1 on-the-air at my station back in 1991. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 21 August 2009 at 1:14pm
| Was it ever determined what is the official "45 version" of this song? The vinyl 45 & video uses the "Rock & Roll Radio Mix," which has the electric guitar intro. It appears that the "C+C Radio Mix" probably received the most radio airplay. And at least Pop Tart pressings of the cassette single have the "C+C Radio Mix" :D Does anyone have an official cassette single? I presume since this was a 1991 hit, the cassette single would be considered the "45 version," no? |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 21 August 2009 at 4:58pm
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i'll try and remember to check the cassingle tmw ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 22 August 2009 at 7:45am
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my commercial cassingle issued as columbia 73690 contains the below 2 tracks
1-here we go (the rock & roll radio mix)(no listed time; 4:41 actual time) 2-here we go (the r&b radio mix) ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 August 2009 at 10:55am
| Thanks, Ed! We can put this one to rest for now. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 August 2009 at 6:18pm
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Might as well leave a few more details on this one, since I just received my CD single and had a chance to compare the versions.
The three radio mixes all use the same backing track. The difference between the three are in the choruses and overdubs. Martha Wash does not sing vocals on any of these mixes. "C+C Radio Mix" - solo vocal for all choruses; electric guitar solo at 2:07 "R&B Radio Mix" - group vocal for all choruses except the last one; "sax" synth solo at 2:07 to the tune of "The 900 Number" "Rock & Roll Radio Mix" - group vocal for all choruses except the last one; electric guitar solo at 2:15; additional electric guitar on intro and overdubbed throughout first verse and chorus |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 10:42pm
| I just wanted to confirm Ed's cassette single info for C + C Music Factory presenting Zelma Davis and Freedom Williams' "Here We Go" ... The A-side features the "Rock & Roll Radio Mix" and has an actual run time of 4:42. The B-side is the "R&B Radio Mix" and runs 4:32. |
Posted By: Loveland
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 6:52pm
Zelma Davis provides lead vocals on the album. Martha Wash and Zelma Davis perform backing vocals on the "Gonna Make You Sweat" song - Martha Wash obviously sings the main hook. "Here We Go" (named "Here We Go Let's Rock 'N' Roll" on the album) was reproduced for its single release and Zelma Davis re-recorded her vocals its release. |