Redeye -- Games
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Topic: Redeye -- Games
Posted By: Indy500
Subject: Redeye -- Games
Date Posted: 05 February 2008 at 8:54am
my Pentagram 45 plays 2:31 but all CD versions play the 3:00 min lp version. The edit is hard because the singer grunts right at the edit point, but that grunt isn't heard on the 45.
1 Maybe it's different guitar solo
2 Maybe I'm doing something wrong
Anyone recreate the 45 from the lp yet?
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 05 February 2008 at 9:28am
I seem to recall trying it and coming away with the conclusion that the 45 could not be made from the LP.
I don't have the 45, but I had access to a radio aircheck that had the single unscoped (don't think I have access to it anymore). But I seem to recall also running into diffculty at the instrumental break. And the aircheck wasn't clear enough to splice in.
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 05 February 2008 at 9:36am
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I attempted the same thing some years ago. The stereo Pentagram 45 is a remix, different from the stereo mix on the LP/CD version.
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 05 February 2008 at 7:33pm
Yes, the commercial 45 I own is a remix/edit (a good one).
Does anyone know if the 45 version exists on an import CD?
Andy
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Posted By: jrjr
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 3:08pm
andy... one of my favorite lost 45's of the 70's, and i've been dying to hear the 45 version! any chance you can shoot it to me via e-mail???
jr@wvbr.com
thanks...
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 8:06pm
Redeye's follow-up to "Games" also had distinct 45 and LP versions. The LP version of "Redeye Blues" on Warner-distributed One Man's Poison featured an instrumental break from 1:16 to 1:38.
The MCA-distributed 45, with the slightly different title of "Red Eye Blues" (Pentagram 206, #78) eliminated the instrumental break, substituting a repeat of a later segment that begins at the 2:05 point with "So I sit and wrack my brain..." This change actually strengthened the record for airplay purposes.
While both single and album versions clock in at an identical 2:47, the 45 version of "Red Eye Blues" cannot be recreated from the LP version due to a lingering guitar overdub over the words "Ooo-ooo goldmine" that does not appear over the same words on the 45.
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 26 January 2011 at 5:39pm
Here is the lp version for those who haven't heard it. Got lot's of play on KOMA the winter of 70/71 but maybe that's because everyone thought it was a new CSN&Y song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NUf4O7hmCk&feature=related
Since it isn't available anywhere else I recreated the 45 version from the Rhino CD by dropping in a section from a 45 and mixing to mono. It will have to do I guess.
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 22 January 2017 at 4:28pm
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Any sightings of Redeye 45 mixes on CD since the last post 6 years ago?
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 26 February 2019 at 9:07pm
From what I've read, the 45 was issued in stereo. Indy500, in mixing
it to mono, is it a mono promo 45 you are making (assuming of
course, a mono promo existed...anyone can verify?).
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dc1
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 28 February 2019 at 3:51pm
Stock 45s were stereo. I did a clean-up on one of them. I
don't know if the promo was stereo but according to
Discogs it had the same B-side as the stock 45.
MM
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 02 March 2019 at 11:34am
No, just personal preference for my early 70s AM radio playlist. I fold if I can't find a dedicated mono mix.
GAMES sounds really good that way.
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Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 03 March 2019 at 3:24pm
I have had the mp3 of the 3:05 version, which I found
out a few days ago, was the LP version from this, I
downlaoded the 45 rpm mp3 version, so that means I
remembered the WRONG version as a single (familiar
story, huh? :D).
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 03 March 2019 at 9:36pm
After all these years this song has only appeared on CD once (thanks to Rhino). They had two LPs and looks like those have never ever been reissued on CD. Wonder who has the rights to the Pentagram label these days. Rhino licensed the track from Pentagram but that was in 1990.
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Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
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Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 11 March 2019 at 7:13pm
Later, sam day as posting, I got the mp3 of the single
out of SoulSeek.
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You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney.
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