bell biv devoe--word to the mutha
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Topic: bell biv devoe--word to the mutha
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: bell biv devoe--word to the mutha
Date Posted: 07 July 2005 at 8:34am
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anyone know if there was a usa promo cd single issued for this song from 1991.......the only cd sgl i can find is a uk issue....... ------------- edtop40 |
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 11:34am
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Ed:
Joel Whitburn shows "Word to the Mutha!" as only an album cut in his Top Pop Singles 1955-1999 book, so a promo CD single probably does not exist for this song. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 4:27pm
| Well, TM Century issued the song in two different versions on their HitDisc series for radio stations. The mixes they issued were "Radio Mentality with Rap" and "Radio Mentality Without Rap," which leads me to believe that there was a promo single. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 4:31pm
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that might not be completely true because both of those versions are on the uk cd sgl issued in 1991 on mcstd 1587 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 4:41pm
| You're right, TM could have pulled the songs from an import single; however, those HitDiscs were released on 7/26/1991 and 8/30/1991 respectively, which I'm assuming is before the song hit the charts (since TM usually always services songs to radio before they're commercially released and become radio hits). I'm only drawing my conclusion based on this evidence, but I have no proof that a promo single actually exists. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 4:48pm
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you might be right about that because "word to tha mutha" debuted on the billboard airplay chart on 9/28/91 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 July 2005 at 11:34pm
If a song was never made available on a commercial single format, Whitburn will usually indicate in his Top Pop Singles book if a promo single was issued for that particular song. He doesn't specifically list one for "Word to the Mutha!", which is why I suspect one may not exist. |
aaronk wrote:Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 July 2005 at 12:31am
| www.gemm.com lists a handful of CD singles, but it's hard to say which are promo singles and which are commercial singles without actually e-mailing the sellers. Most of the sellers who have the CD in stock are overseas, but I've seen several of these overseas sellers end up with copies of US promo singles before. I guess a good way to find out is to ask them :) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 March 2007 at 9:35pm
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I was able to obtain a copy of the mixes from HitDisc to compare with the UK import CD single versions. The "Radio Mentality without Rap" (4:12) is identical to the same version on the import CD single that Ed mentions.
The "Radio Mentality WITH Rap" is a different version than what's on the import single, though. The HitDisc version runs (4:49), and it is not simply just a longer fade. This version has a different intro, too, when compared with the (3:50) import CD single version. In doing some research, I found that a promo 12" exists containing the longer (4:50 listed) "with rap" version. I can say with 100% certainty that the version on HitDisc is NOT a vinyl dub. There is absolutely no trace of vinyl noise or noise reduction on their copy, and I have been able to spot even their best vinyl dubs. While it is still a mystery where their versions come from, we can at least rule out that it isn't the UK import single; however, one of the other import singles (Japan, Germany) may contain the longer "with rap" mix. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 29 September 2007 at 4:30pm
| Just today, I e-mailed an eBay seller about the Japanese CD single for "Word To The Mutha," and he confirmed that the run times are 4:14 and 4:53. Apparently, the Japan and UK CD singles have different "with rap" mixes, which would explain where TM Century got their copies! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 April 2008 at 8:06pm
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Well, until last week, I was in agreeance that there was no promo CD single issued. I now hold in my hand a US promo copy on MCA CD45-1637. It's housed in a standard jewel case with front and back inserts and contains the following six tracks:
1. Radio Mentality Without Rap (4:14) 2. Radio Mentality With Rap (4:50) 3. Club Mentality (6:40 - actual 6:38) 4. Acapella (4:50) 5. Instrumental (4:40) 6. Suite (4:40) |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 5:19pm
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aaron, can you check your run time again from the promo cd single you list above as i have the uk import cd single issued as mca mcstd 1587 with the below listed tracks...specifically the "with rap" version....you show the run time as 4:50...should it be 3:50 like my cd single?
1-radio metality with rap (3:50 listed; 3:50 actual) 2-club mentality (6:37 listed; 6:37 actual) 3-radio mentality without rap (4:12 listed; 4:12 actual) 4-instrumental (4:38 listed; 4:38 actual) ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 7:59pm
| Ed, there are two different "with rap" versions. The only one released in the US is the longer 4:50 version, which is not a typo. It's a different edit than the import version, and not merely a longer fade. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 7:20am
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understood, thanks for checking.... ------------- edtop40 |