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Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds--Fallin’

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Topic: Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds--Fallin’

Posted By: PaulEschen
Subject: Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds--Fallin’
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 6:09pm

On iTunes, they have two anthologies, both called The Playboy Years;
one attributed to Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds, and the other to Hamilton,
Joe Frank & Dennison. Each anthology has a version of "Fallin' In Love", with
the 'Reynolds' version listed at 2:58, and the 'Dennison' version listed at
3:14. It's obvious that, in listening to the samples, that the longer-listed
version is slower than the other. Is that the difference between the LP
and 45 versions, or is it only length, as described by Pat in the database? By
the way, they also list "Winners And Losers" as being available.

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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 6:32pm

Paul, I just hopped over to iTunes and they all sound like re-recordings to me...

Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 6:57pm

PaulEschen wrote:

It's obvious that, in listening to the samples, that the longer-listed
version is slower than the other. Is that the difference between the LP
and 45 versions, or is it only length, as described by Pat in the database?

The difference between the 45 and LP is not due to speed. The 45 has a longer fadeout, with additional repeats of the chorus. I was able to get a very close recreation by repeating the last chorus on the fadeout of the LP version, but it was tricky, requiring the gain to jacked up significantly to get the correct fade.

Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 7:40pm

PaulEschen wrote:

On iTunes, they have two anthologies, both called The Playboy Years;
one attributed to Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds, and the other to Hamilton,
Joe Frank & Dennison.

Paul, I just confirmed what I had previously remembered about this group's personnel in my new Whitburn "Top Pop Singles 1955-2006" book, which, as always, is in my opinion a "must have" for chart geeks like us. Tommy Reynolds left the group soon after their "Daisy Mae" single in 1972, and was replaced by Alan Dennison. When Playboy issued their 1975 "comeback" LP of sorts, everyone still felt that the band's name recognition came from their big 1971 hit, "Don't Pull Your Love," as "H, JF & R", so they left the old name intact, despite the fact that Dennison had long ago replaced Reynolds. I remember buying their 1976 low-charting 45, "Light Up The World With Sunshine", with the Reynolds "crossed out", and replaced with Dennison on the pic sleeve, trying to finally transition the public, and jive the group name to the three guys currently in the band, but by then the game was pretty much over for them. Just FYI, I can't speak for the content of the discs you cite, but I wouldn't make too much of how the CD label actually worded the band's name, because Dennison was in on the original recordings of both "Fallin' In Love" and "Winners And Losers."

Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 7:53pm

my commercial 45 for the hamilton, joe frank & reynolds
song "fallin' in love" issued as playboy 6024 states the
run time on the label as 3:13 but actually only runs
3:11....this 45 run time info should added to the db....

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edtop40

Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 15 March 2012 at 2:03pm

eriejwg wrote:

I just hopped over to iTunes and they all sound like re-recordings to me...

I must have overlooked this thread when it was created four years ago.

The iTunes tracks do NOT sound like re-recordings to me, but "Fallin' In Love" is mastered from a 45 and at the wrong speed. As the database notes, there was a physical release for the set credited to Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds but, as PaulEschen notes above, that set features the song in its shorter LP lenghth.

Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 15 March 2012 at 2:52pm

FYI: My copy of the CD The Playboy Years is a complete needle drop. The songs play out of order (so they don't match the track listing). Last, but not least, the songs start to play slower and slower as the CD continues (which leads me to believe there must have been an issue with the turntable used to play the album). In other words I use this disc as a coaster and was a complete waste of my money.

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Santi Paradoa

Miami, Florida

Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 15 March 2012 at 7:58pm

Not the song in question, but the song "Winners and Losers"
from "The Playboy Years" that I downloaded from iTunes is a
remix.

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