Whitney Houston - "I’m Your Baby Tonight"
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Topic: Whitney Houston - "I’m Your Baby Tonight"
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: Whitney Houston - "I’m Your Baby Tonight"
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 7:22pm
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I had the full I'm Your Baby Tonight CD, with a version of 4:58, and my commercial 45 had 5:00 printed on the label, so I just assumed it was the LP version. And I didn't really give it another thought until I found a 4:12 edit on a TM Century CD. Still haven't played the 45, but I recreated the edit.
Here are instructions, based on timings from I'm Your Baby Tonight: Keep 0:00.0-2:56.1 of the LP version. The edit point falls between the words "Whatever you" and "want", where the syllables "ever you" all have three snare hits under them. I cut it at the bass drum that starts the word "want" and it sounded fine. Remove the 32 beats from 2:56.1-3:13.5. Keep the 67 beats from 3:13.5-3:50.0. Edit at snare at 3:50; you should hear a whooshy sound effect disappear after the edit (and you'll never hear the song the same way again!) Remove the 16 beats from 3:50.0-3:58.7. Keep the 77 beats from 3:58.7-4:40.7. (The end of this portion should be on the word "want".) Put a 32-beat fade from 4:23.2-4:40.7. Your mixdown should run 4:14, with edits at 2:56.1 and 3:32.6, and a 32-beat fade from 3:57.1-4:14.5. (FYI - The true fade on the TM edit version is a second or two quicker than what I described, but I'm a stickler for having fades that fit the measures of the song. 32 beats is aesthetically pleasing; 29 beats, not so much...) Jim - Do you have the promo CD single info for this song? |
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 8:00pm
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Yes I do, Ron, and here are the rather brief particulars for it (with no listed time):
Whitney Houston-"I'm Your Baby Tonight" (ASCD-2108) 1-(non-described version) (actual time 4:14) |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 8:03pm
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the cassingle issued as arista 2108, states no version on the sleeve or cassingle itself, but was the full length cd/lp version running 4:58 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 04 March 2009 at 8:16pm
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I own the first Japanese pressing of the "I'm Your Baby Tonight" full CD as well as a UK CD single for that track, and both contain a remix. I have also seen german vinyl LP's with this version. It's not labeled as a remix on any of the sources I mentioned, only on the production credits "additional production and remix by Yvonne Turner". Its actual running time is 4:12, very close to the US 45 version. It has a much less "US" vibe, more of a dance/90's house feel to it, much smoother than the original Babyface production. Could this have been the 45 version outside the US? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 August 2009 at 12:32pm
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Since elcoleccionista's question was never answered, I'm bumping this up. Although I can't supply the answer, the official "sonybmg" account on YouTube has posted a video for the song that most likely is the version mentioned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFXJ9Vhvgfw
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 August 2009 at 12:39pm
| While we're on the subject, can anyone confirm the run time of the US vinyl 45? A listing on discogs.com claims that the US 45 has a run time of (4:13). There might be more than one US pressing of the 45, or the run time might be drastically different than what's printed on the label. It's also possible that the listing on discogs is a non-US 45, erraneously listed as a US pressing. |
Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 16 August 2009 at 7:42pm
| My stock copy has a listed time of 5:00. There was a promo 45, which had the 5:00 version on one side and a 4:15 (listed time) on the other. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 August 2009 at 7:57pm
If you are able to time it, that might help solve part of the mystery. So far, it is unknown for certain if the 5:00 printed time is correct or not. Thanks, Chuck! |
cmmmbase wrote:Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 17 August 2009 at 8:06pm
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my commercial 45 and cassingle issued as arista 2108 states a run time on the label as 5:00 but actually runs 4:58.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 August 2009 at 8:13pm
AHA! Thank you, Ed! I'm noticing what the problem is with the discogs listing. The catalog number of the 45 is Arista 113 594, which is obviously NOT a US pressing. Thank you for confirming the run time and for posting the catalog number. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 3:18am
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It's mentioned above that some import singles contain a remix of this song - though they don't mention if it's the main mix (like track 1) or an extended mix that comes after track 1. I just found something interesting. According to this video, a very different mix was the main mix used for Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H-jLOoz-YY It actually comes from the official Whitney Houston page on YouTube (presumably her estate or record label) and not just some fan's page. And they label it the "European version (Official video)." The visuals look pretty much the same (from memory) but the mix is very different. It doesn't even have the triplet-y feel that our (US) version has. My question is - is the mix in this video one of the mixes on US promo singles? Where in the US does this "European version" exist on CD? |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 4:14am
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The “European Version” used in the video above is definitely the UK &
Europe main single and album version. It isn’t even labeled as a remix on their products, but conversely they refer to the US single version as the “LA Babyface US Mix” on a couple of singles in those regions. That non-US single version, remixed by Yvonne Turner, is a shorter variant of the longer “Extended Mix” (listed 6:21 and runs about that length, from memory) that the US received on commercial 12” and cassette maxi-single A-sides. I have never seen either either the long or short Turner UK/European mixes on commercial or promo CD in the US, but they are easily found secondhand on import CD singles for pretty cheap. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 8:58am
I imagine the Turner remix would also be on UK pressings of the full album as well. They would probably also be cheap nowadays, although the shipping might jack up the cost. Both the US Edit on the promo CD Single and UK/European Mix run very close in length, so there could be some confusion as to which version is which (until you actually hear them, of course). I think the US Edit is just a straight edit of the US Album Version. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 12:02pm
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I bought the UK version of her 2000 "The Greatest Hits"
since it had the original versions of the uptempo songs that the US edition did not feature. (Always wondered why Arista did that. The people most likely to buy a compilation are casual fans who want to hear the original versions of the songs!) Is the IYBT featured on this CD different than what was on the IYBT studio album? They sound the same to me. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 4:02pm
I have the UK version of GH. I also bought it for the same reason you mentioned. I believe it was the Entertainment Weekly message boards at the time where I saw a few people (I assume from the UK) complaining that they used the US Versions of "I'm Your Baby Tonight" and "So Emotional" on the UK GH, so apparently the US Album Versions were used even though it's a UK Disc/Compilation. If I understand it correctly, the Yvonne Turner remix was issued in the UK on the studio album and commercial single. Here in the US, it was only on the 12" and Cassette Maxi-Singles. The Greatest Hits compilations in both the US and UK fade "I Will Always Love You" a few seconds early as well. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 29 September 2020 at 9:17am
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Wow, I never knew there was a remixed version of this
song that was the hit version outside the US. (This board both fascinates and flusters me sometimes simultaneously when I learn how many versions of a song exist that I have never been aware of for all these years!) I just listened to the Yvonne Turner remix on YouTube and it is not nearly as distinctive as the version I know best. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 29 September 2020 at 10:59am
When dealing with 90's songs generally expect at least anywhere between 2-7 versions that could have been played. The promos were crazy those years, especially from 1991 on. UK edits and even remixes were the big thing. They had to push those promos somehow. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 29 September 2020 at 7:24pm
Hi Dan! Yes, that is my assumption as well, although my IYBT CD is the US version so I couldn’t say for 100% sure. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 30 September 2020 at 8:09am
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Hi Eric! The Discogs page for the UK Version of the IYBT CD lists the running time of the song as 4:09 (obviously way shorter than the 5 Minute version on the US CD) and among the credits for the song there is a specific notation that says, "Producer [Additional], Remix - Yvonne Turner". So I'd say it's a safe bet that the Turner remix is what's on the UK CD. The UK CD Singles may still be the only place where you could find the Extended Remix on CD, though (the same Yvonne Turner mix, only longer and running over 6 minutes).
I'm curious about what Arista did for the UK Version of her second album, "Whitney" and what version of "So Emotional" they used on it. I believe there's another thread here somewhere in which it was stated that the "Edited Remix" was the hit version in the UK, but that version runs somewhere around 4:30 and the Discogs listing for the UK CD has the song at 4:53, longer than even the US Album Version. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: 75azabache
Date Posted: 30 September 2020 at 10:08am
Hi! I have my original discs purchased here in the UK! The UK album version does have the Yvonne Turner Remix and it's the 4.09 version which was also released as the single version here. I think the single ran a couple of seconds over that but the mix is the same. My original 1987 release of Whitney has So Emotional running at 4.35, I know the 7" single release here was the edited remix. Hope this helps! |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 30 September 2020 at 2:15pm
Thanks for the confirmation! So I guess it's safe to assume that the version of "So Emotional" on the UK Version of the "Whitney" album is the same as the US Album Version, it's just the single that used the remix? ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 30 September 2020 at 6:53pm
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The Japanese cd maxi also has the Yvonne Turner extended
mix in additional to the shorter remix version. The reason I acquired this disc is that it has a longer version of "Feels so good" when compared to what was released on the UK version. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 2:26am
Yes, I'm amazed, too, by what people find and report here. I found this European "I'm Your Baby Tonight" hit/album mix by accident. I try to get music videos and TV performances of all my favorite songs (not what this board is about, though I know there's one other video collector on this board!) Anyway, for the past month or more, I've been researching on YouTube (I'm up to the letter "H"), and was surprised by 2 Whitney Houston things. First, there's a music video for "All At Once" (a very simple one!) done in 1985 and that this was the breakthrough single for her in at least one country (top 5 in ... Netherlands maybe?) but also first single elsewhere in Europe. There are also a LOT of 1985 TV performances of this song in Europe, which surprised me, until I realized it was a single. In many places in the US, it got a lot of radio play on pop and AC stations (like Washington DC where I lived) after "Greatest Love of All" peaked, but I'd heard Clive didn't want to release it because it was (A) too close to the release of Whitney's second album, and (B) too close to the melody of the second album's first ballad single "Didn't We Almost Have It All". (Both composed by Michael Masser.) Well actually, it's just me making the (B) observatrion - though I really think that was a reason they held off on releasing "All At Once" here. But I did hear through some music business source that (A) was the reason Clive wouldn't release the single, when it was becoming a radio hit without one ounce of radio promotion! Too bad - I think it would have been another #1 for her, giving her a string of 8 consecutive #1s instead of 7. (It's also my favorite WH song). Anyway, I noticed that that video was on YouTube's "Whitney Houston" channel, so I clicked that, and that's how I found out about the European mix of "I'm Your Baby Tonight" (when I was going through the videos on the channel). I was shocked I never knew about it - a little more shocked to find out now it's never managed to make its way onto any US CD - and surprised that so many other people on this board are just finding out about it now. (Everyone except people living in the UK I guess :) So ... if I want the long and short version of the European mix, I guess the only place is on certain UK CD singles (and maybe Japan). Is that correct? |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 6:53am
Yes, it appears that way. At least if you want to get both mixes on the same disc. I just checked Discogs and apparently the short version of the European Mix is also on Japanese pressings of the full-length album, as well as her cover of "Higher Love". I think that version of "Higher Love" was remixed a few years ago and briefly charted in the US. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 7:20am
It's funny that you should mention (B). At about the time that "Didn't We Almost Have It All" was a hit, one of the Top 40 stations here in town played a parody of it (on their morning show, IIRC) with a woman who sounded similar to Whitney singing the line, "Don't My Songs All Sound The Same". The first thing I thought is that it must have been referring to "All At Once", because it sounded very close to "Didn't We...". So apparently, we weren't the only people to notice the similarities. Sometimes, even to this day, I still get the two confused on occasion. I'd also heard about reason (A) for "All At Once" not being released as a single (or I should say as an A-Side, because it was the B-Side of the "Saving All My Love For You" single). Clive was probably worried about Whitney burnout at the time. It was less than a year between the time "Greatest Love Of All" fell off the chart and "I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)" debuted. Also, for as great of a song as "All At Once" is, I'm not sure it would have made it to #1. I know I had only ever heard the song on AC Stations when it was getting airplay, not on Top 40 stations, so I don't know if it would have had enough airplay to make the chart. I assume it didn't make the Hot 100 Airplay chart, because I remember reading that Bon Jovi's "Never Say Goodbye" was the first Album Cut to make the Airplay Chart, and that was a year later in 1987. But I look at "All At Once" the same way as Madonna's "Into The Groove" - two classic 80's songs that we'll never know for sure how they would've performed on the charts if they had been singles. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: 75azabache
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 11:05am
Yes I think it must be the same as the US Album version. Incidentally the UK CD has the time stamped as 4.53 on the disc, but it runs at 4.35. Oddly enough although we had the Edit Remix on the 7" release, I don't ever remember hearing it on the radio. I have a very old recording of the official UK Chart Show from Radio One and it's the album version they played on there which is very odd as UK radio stations always played the singles as you would buy them in the shops. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 2:36pm
| Dan (CDGuy), I remember hearing "Don't My Songs All Sound the Same", the parady of "Didn't We Almost Have It All" and remember thinking the same thing - that it was inspired by the "All At Once"/"Didn't We ... " similarities (even though one wasn't even a real single). The last line before the chorus of "Didn't We Almost Have It All", is melodically note-for-note the exact same melody as the last line of the VERSE in "All At Once". Its composer Michael Masser (my favorite composer, as I mentioned) had a style that worked for him for 17 years ('73 to '90), but even I must admit that all the songs had a very similar sound - these 2 plus, "Miss You Like Crazy", "Greatest Love of All", "Someone That I used to Love", "If Ever You're In My Arms Again", "Do You Know Where You're Going To", "Tonight I Celebrate My Love For You", "Nothing's Gonna Change My Love For You"... "Saving All My Love For You" actually had a different vibe but still ended the title with "My Love For You"! And the only other unique hit was "Touch Me in the Morning". That didn't really sound like anything else. Whitney had recorded a song for her 3rd album that didn't make it that also sounded like every other Michael Masser song :) |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 7:00pm
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Masser probably wouldn't have been to happy if "All at
once" was re-released w/o ones of his songs on the flip. He had "full-ride" on the "Saving all my love"/"All at once" 45 on the publishing and I don't fathom he'd want to split it. Furthermore, I think Whitney's fans would have thought of it as a cash grab since the song was already on a 45 w/"Saving all my love". Before Atlantic Starr crossed over, A&M used to avoid cutting singles on many of their R&B ballads as they used them to sell the album. Clive may have also been thinking along these lines. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 October 2020 at 2:28am
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True, but "Greatest Love of All" was a B-side of an earlier single (pretty sure "Saving All My Love"), albeit an acoustic piano mix. Even with "Saving" reaching #1 and having massive sales, it didn't stop people from buying "Greatest Love of All", which sold arguably more.
So I figured it wouldn't be different if they released "All At Once" as a later A-side. They could have done the same thing and replaced the piano with another sound. I wonder how many people there were that bought "Saving All My Love", then later bought "Greatest Love" when it became a hit, having no idea they already owned the song as a B-side. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 02 October 2020 at 4:56am
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"Greatest Love Of All" was the B-Side of Whitney's first hit, "You Give Good Love". I believe it was the original album version of "Greatest" that appeared as the B-Side, as the song in its remixed form didn't start getting airplay until after Whitney's "How Will I Know" went to #1 in early 1986. The new version of "Greatest" also had different vocals and later was used on future pressings of the album. When the album was re-released for its 25th Anniversary, it used the original version of "Greatest", but still used the hit version of "How Will I Know" and not its original Album Version.
I doubt Clive was too worried about Album Sales being affected by "All At Once" being a single, though. The album was #1 for 14 weeks in 1986 and was obviously selling millions on top of having 4 Top 5 Singles (three of which went to #1). ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 20 January 2022 at 8:59pm
| The 3:50 "previously unreleased version" is identical to the U.S. radio/video version except with the chorus from around 1:45 to 2:03 edited out. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 22 January 2022 at 10:33am
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Deleted post. ------------- Dan In Philly |