Incorrect printed run times...
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Topic: Incorrect printed run times...
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: Incorrect printed run times...
Date Posted: 28 July 2005 at 8:40pm
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We all know how commercial and promo singles often have incorrect run times printed on their labels or sleeves. Pat has done a fantastic job documenting discrepencies between printed and actual run times for many, many singles in Top 40 Music on Compact Disc, but there are still some out there not yet accounted for. Therefore, I thought we could start a thread where readers can post differences they encounter between actual and printed single run times that aren't mentioned in the 10th edition. We can also open this up to LP run times as well. Here are a few to get started:
L.A. Guns - The Ballad of Jayne: DJ CD copies of this single run (4:14) and (4:32), not (3:59) and (4:10) as stated on the label. Siouxsie & The Banshees - Kiss Them for Me: DJ CD copies of this single state a run time of (4:20) on the label, but actually runs (4:27). Jermaine Stewart - Say It Again: Commercial 45 copies run (4:08), not (3:59) as stated on the label. Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart: Commercial 45 copies run (4:37), not (4:48) as stated on the label. |
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 6:31am
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Does anyone have the commercial single of "Ballad Of Jayne" to verify the running time since Whitburn lists the running time as (3:59) and I suspect that just like the dj copies, the commercial copy incorrectly states the time. ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:18pm
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Pat:
A vendor at www.gemm.com confirms that the "Ballad of Jayne" cassette single has a printed run time of 3:59 on the label. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:34pm
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good one...........my commercial cassingle states on the cassingle face that the run time is 3:59, but it actually runs 4:15........no run time listed on the cardboard sleeve........ ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:47pm
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daryl hall/john oates with david ruffin & eddie kendricks song "a nite at the apollo live! the way you do the things you do/my girl" issued in 1985 on RCA 14178 actually runs 4:36 while the 45's face states the run time as 4:13 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 29 July 2005 at 5:59pm
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Whitney's "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" had a printed run time of something like 3:35, when it was in actually the full-length four-minute-plus album version.
MJ's "Human Nature" 45 had a printed run time of 4:05, like the LP version, when it actually ran 3:46. "Thriller" I think listed 3:56 and ran 4:07. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 August 2005 at 1:53am
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I just came across some interesting info about Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart. Although Pat's book lists the song on Dream Of The Blue Turtles as running (4:37), the track listing on allmusic.com states (4:48), the printed run time on the 45.
Another web site I visited has "Original 4:48" and "Hugh Padgham remix 4:36." The same site states that this remix version (with the same time as the actual run time of the 45) is on Fields Of Gold US pressing. Pat's book does not list a version, but I'm wondering if the LP and 45 are different, and if we actually have the 45 version on Fields Of Gold. |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 01 August 2005 at 6:23am
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My vinyl 45 dj copy of "Fortress Around Your Heart" states a running time of 4:48 but actually runs 4:38 and sync's up perfectly with the version that appears on the cd "Dream Of The Blue Turtles". The cd appearances on "Fields Of Gold" and "Dream Of The Blue Turtles" sound the same to me so I don't think there is a 45 version of this song. ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 August 2005 at 11:12am
| Could there be two pressings of Dream Of The Blue Turtles, with one having the 4:48 version? I'll see if I can locate my cassette tape of the album to see what's on there. Also, I believe my friend has a copy of one of the original pressings of the CD, so I'll see what's on his disc. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 01 August 2005 at 10:36pm
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Donna Allen - Serious: Actual 45 time is (3:46), not (3:40) as stated on the record label.
Herb Alpert - Making Love in the Rain: Actual 45 time is (4:06), not (3:50) as stated on the record label. Eric Carmen - Sunrise: Actual 45 time is (3:38), not (3:29) as stated on the record label. Gavin Christopher - One Step Closer to You: Actual 45 time is (4:13), not (3:58) as stated on the record label. Christopher Cross - No Time for Talk: Actual 45 time is (3:56), not (4:22) as stated on the record label. Eagles - Best of My Love: Actual 45 time is (3:29), not (3:25) as stated on the record label. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 August 2005 at 12:08pm
| Hall & Oates - Everything Your Heart Desires: Actual 45 time is (4:21), not (4:26) as stated on the label. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 29 August 2005 at 5:09pm
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bonnie tyler "total eclipse of the heart"
45 label face states run time as 4:29--------actual run time of the 45 is 5:31 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 8:14am
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Kenny Loggins "Vox Humana"----45 label states run time as 3:49 but actually runs 4:08 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 8:34am
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kenny loggins "footloose" actually runs 3:41 while the 45's face states the run time as 3:46 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 9:18am
Ed: The LP version/length of "Footloose" is 3:46. Is there an edit on the 45 causing it to run 3:41, or does the 45 simply have a faster pitch than the LP? The LP ends cold so I don't imagine the 45 could be an early fade of the LP. |
edtop40 wrote:Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 9:33am
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i just listened to the 45 side by side to the cd version from the soundtrack and i don't hear any edit........at what time mark do you think it is???? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 9:49am
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dave loggins "please come to boston"--------45 states run time as 3:57 but actually runs 4:07 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 10:17am
Ed: I don't have a copy of the 45, so I don't know if there is an edit. I'm just trying to speculate what's causing the :05 difference between the 45, which you report runs 3:41, and the soundtrack CD which runs 3:46? If you're not hearing an edit, then could it be that "Footloose" runs at a faster pitch on the commercial 45 than it does on the CD/LP? |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 12:44pm
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i'll review it more closely, now........ ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 12:54pm
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just listened to the song "footloose" again.......the song runs 3:41 while the label states the run time as 3:46.........i don't know why all the cd versions listed in his book say the run time is 3:46..........maybe just a pause for the next next song which gets counted toward's footloose's run time..........puzzles!!!!!!!!! ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 8:47pm
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Ok, Ed was gracious to e-mail me an mp3 of his commercial 45 of "Footloose". After doing an A/B comparison between the 45 and the Footloose soundtrack CD on Columbia/Legacy 65781, I have concluded there is a clear and distinct difference between the two during the intro. The soundtrack LP version starts off with approximately :09 of drums and bass guitar before the sweeping hi-hat and lead guitar kick in. By contrast, the 45 version immediately begins with the sweeping hi-hat and lead guitar, and there are no drums present on the intro until the :10 mark of the song.
The 45 version of "Footloose" can be found on the Like, Omigod! The '80$ Pop Culture Box (Totally) on Rhino 78239. The LP version is on The Essential Kenny Loggins CD (Columbia/Legacy 86282). I'll leave it to Pat to sort out which of the remaining CD appearances of "Footloose" in the 10th edition contain the 45 version and which have the LP version (Judging by the listed run times, it looks like nearly all of these CDs have the LP version). |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 9:28pm
| I've just confirmed that the Kenny Loggins Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow: The Greatest Hits of CD (Columbia 67986) also contains the 45 version of "Footloose". |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 31 August 2005 at 10:33pm
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Regarding "Strung Out" by Steve Perry, the Street Talk cd on Columbia 39334 really does run 3:51 and this is the vinyl LP version. When this cd was remastered and released as Columbia 67849, a different edit was used for some reason and runs 3:44 which is neither the 45 nor the LP version. This is the same edit used on the "Greates Hits" cd which runs 3:44 and is neither the 45 nor LP version. ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 01 September 2005 at 2:40pm
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whoo hoo!
ever since May 1997 when I bought Kenny Loggins Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow: The Greatest Hits i wondered why the beginning was different. Now, thanks to the experts on this forum, I have my answer! cheers! ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 2:40pm
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hooters "where do the children go"---------the 45 face states that the 45 runs 5:29 like all the cd versions ever issued, but actually runs 4:04 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 7:10pm
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This is odd because I have the dj copy of "Where Do The Children Go" and 1 side states a time of 5:29 and it runs 5:29. The other side states a time of 3:46 and it runs 4:04! ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 03 September 2005 at 8:10pm
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does anyone have the 45 of "where do the children go" issued on columbia 05854 that runs 5:29, and isn't a promo/dj copy ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 06 September 2005 at 8:51pm
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Corey Hart - Everything in My Heart: Actual 45 time is (4:24), not (4:15) as stated on the record label.
Steve Perry - She's Mine: Actual 45 time is (3:46), not (3:56) as stated on the record label. Dionne Warwick - Heartbreaker: Actual 45 time is (4:15), not (4:02) as stated on the record label. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 3:39pm
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Dionne and Friends: Dionne Warwick, Elton John, Gladys Knight and Stevie Wonder - That's What Friends Are For: Actual 45 time is (4:15), not (3:58) as stated on the record label.
Dionne Warwick & Jeffrey Osborne - Love Power: Actual 45 time is (4:32), not (4:09) as stated on the record label. (Credit: Edtop40) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 11:47pm
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D.J. Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - Boom! Shake the Room: Actual cassette single time is (3:45), not (3:51) as stated on the sleeve.
Was (Not Was) - Spy in the House of Love: Actual 45 time is (4:16), not (4:00) as stated on the record label. (credit: Edtop40) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 September 2005 at 3:56pm
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Calloway - I Wanna Be Rich: Actual cassette single time is (4:44), not (4:25) as stated on the sleeve.
Will Smith - Gettin' Jiggy Wit It: Actual cassette single time is (3:45), not (3:50) as stated on the sleeve. Karyn White - The Way I Feel About You: DJ CD copies of this single run (4:08) and (4:33), not (4:00) and (4:35) as stated on the CD label. |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 29 September 2005 at 7:26pm
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Just because I am curious, I just timed my commercial vinyl 45 copy of "I Wanna Be Rich" and it runs 4:42 while the label states 4:45. ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 September 2005 at 8:10pm
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Pat:
You're right... I looked up the time printed on the "I Wanna Be Rich" commercial 45 and it much more closely reflects the song's actual run time than the time listed on the cassette single. The 45 version time ranges widely from 4:37 to 4:48 on CD, so I guess it comes as no surprise that our 45 and cassette single run times vary slightly as well. (Then again, this might simply reflect a small difference in speed calibration in our audio playback equipment.) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:18pm
| Eagles - One of These Nights: Actual 45 time is (3:34), not (3:28) as stated on the record label. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 12 October 2005 at 5:42pm
| Alias - More Than Words Can Say: DJ CD copies of this single run (3:39), not (3:35) as stated on the label, and (3:52). |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 13 October 2005 at 7:51pm
| Brandy - Brokenhearted: Actual cassette single time is (4:45), not (4:29) as stated on the sleeve. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 16 October 2005 at 9:49am
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Someone (not from this group, this was ages ago) put a relatively scratchy single of the Eagles' "Lyin' Eyes" on a CDR for me (no skips, just a lot of surface noise), and I found that it timed out to (4:13), not (3:58).
Unless that wasn't the 45 version. Doug |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 3:48pm
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I just edited the LP version of Lyin' Eyes down to its 45 edits, and it
does time out to 4:13 for me as well. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 5:18pm
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rod stewart's 45 "you wear it well" runs 4:08 while the 45 states the run time as 4:21.........the 45 is just an early fade of the 4:21 version....... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:49pm
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"almost paradise" mike reno & ann wilson.....
45's face states run time as 4:30.......really runs 3:49 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 12:56pm
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My 12" single of "Major Tom" by Peter Schilling has a bunch of incorrect run times printed on the label, which made me wonder about the 45. Edtop40 just notified me that the 45 also incorrectly states (3:58), but it actually runs (4:11).
There are two CDs in the database that list "45 version but :10 longer" while they are actually the correct 45 version and they aren't really long at all. Those CDs are VH1 - More of The Big 80's and The 80s Pop Culture Box both on Rhino. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 5:54pm
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the caassingle "smells like teen spirit" by nirvana on dgc 19050 lists on the cassingle's face that it is the "edit" version and lists the run time as 4:30.........incorrect.........it runs 5:01 like the cd/lp version....... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 27 November 2005 at 11:25pm
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Boston - More Than a Feeling: Actual 45 time is (3:20), not (3:25) as stated on the record label.
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Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 30 November 2005 at 10:02pm
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Some inaccuracies I noticed on the following singles from Whitney Houston's "My Love Is Your Love" album.
The promo CD single for the song "My Love Is Your Love" (ASCD-3707) states on its back and CD itself a radio edit with a running time of 4:04. But upon listening to the CD, that track runs for 4:23, same as the album version. The exact same case with another single from that album: "I Learned From The Best" promo CD (ASCD-3603) states a 4:09 radio edit, but it actually contains the 4:21 album version. Little more accurate here but still a discrepancy: The promo CD for "Heartbreak Hotel" (ASCD-3601) lists a radio mix of the song. In its denomination it is correct, the track is edited from the album version which is 4:41. But the running time of the radio mix is listed as 3:59 on both back inlay and CD, while it plays for 4:06 minutes. "It's Not Right But It's Ok": I don't have the promo CD so maybe someone else can tell us if there are also discrepancies on it (I bet there are since they are found on the rest of the promo singles). But there are discrepancies on the commercial 3 track CD single. Track 1 states "Original Version" 4:15. Upon playing the CD, it actually runs for 4:25. Also, I believe it has been incorrectly labeled original version, since the album version is 4:52 long. Again, I don't own the promo CD, but I suspect the so called original version on this single is actually the radio edit. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 11:39pm
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Exposé "Seasons Change" CD Single (ASCD-9639)
Single Version (4:15) actually runs 4:10 Crossover Mix (5:20) actually runs 5:22 Extended Remix (7:45) actually runs 7:47 Megamix (10:00) actually runs 10:01 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 7:57pm
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disco tex & his sex-o-lettes "get dancin'"
the 45 states the run time as 3:56 but actually runs 3:12 and is just an early fade of the version from "mega hits dance classics volume 3" ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 4:30pm
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giuffria "call to the heart" 45 says the run time is 3:59 but actually runs 4:10.........aaron did an outstanding job editing this one to match the 45 from cd........ ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 10:29pm
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My copy of the Disco Tex 45 is a dj copy and runs (3:53) and has matrix number CH-3004-AM 95532 etched in the runout area. What is your matrix number Ed? ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 11:31am
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mine has "ch-3004 - as x kendun a"...........i wonder what this is all about!!!! ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 11:41am
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Since your 45 states CH-3004-AS I would bet that you have a stereo 45 while I have a mono 45 but why would the stereo version be shorter than the mono version? Are you sure this is a US pressing of the 45? ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 2:59pm
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it IS a stereo version and i thought about it being an import but it doesn't state anywhere on the 45's face that it's from anywhere else........maybe they're two version of this particular 45....... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 6:26pm
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OK Ed, I have just bought a stereo commercial copy of "Get Dancin'" and guess what, it runs (3:48) so there are at least 3 different versions of this 45 floating around! ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 7:56pm
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samantha sang "emotion" 45 label states run time as 3:43 while the 45 actually runs 3:55 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 18 December 2005 at 6:42pm
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richard marx "satisfied" runs 4:12 while the 45 face states run time as 3:58.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 06 January 2006 at 7:59pm
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billy joel &n bsp;"tell her about it" &nb sp; runs 3:49 label 3:35
sergio mendes "never gonna let you go" &nb sp; runs 4:14 label 3:55 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 10:49pm
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Michael McDonald - No Lookin' Back: Actual 45 time is (3:53), not (3:59) as stated on the record label.
(credit: edtop40) |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 10:27pm
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"fairytale" by the pointer sisters runs 3:01 and NOT 3:11 as stated on abc/blue thumb 254 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 4:05pm
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jeanne pruett "satin sheets" actually runs 3:19 in length while my cdr copy only runs 3:16 and the 45's stated run time is 2:58.........i see there are a few cd's in the database that run 3:21 or so..........does anyone own one of these to confirm that they do run 3:21......... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 27 February 2006 at 7:18pm
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PRINCE
Take Me With U the actual running time of the song "take me with u" by prince is 3:42 while the 45's face states the run time as 3:52 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 02 March 2006 at 4:53pm
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Ambrosia - Holdin' On To Yesterday
I just finished editing the LP version down to the 45 version, and unless the track was speeded up for the single, the 45 version times out to 3:27, while the 45 label reads 3:19. Can anyone confirm that the LP and 45 are the same speed? |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 02 March 2006 at 8:54pm
| I just timed the 45 and the actual running time is indeed (3:27) not (3:19) as stated on the record label. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 8:03am
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Pat:
We've all done a lot of work uncovering differences between printed and actual run times on 45s. Just curious... How concerned are you with printed and actual run time discrepencies on original LPs? The database lists a few LP run time differences, but I imagine there are tons out there that still have yet to be documented. I'd be willing to help uncover some, but it seems most readers (myself included) aren't quite as concerned about LP times since LP versions/lengths tend to be far more readily available on CD than 45 versions/lengths. Also, I notice printed run times for songs on many domestic CD releases often differ from their corresponding actual run times, though its never been a practice of yours to note these differences. I know we could practically spend a lifetime trying to document every run time discrepency that has ever existed on vinyl and CD, but I know there are many of us who share your interest and drive in helping make your database the most complete and accurate of its kind. I guess my main question boils down to this... How deeply are you looking to delve into all the run time discrepencies that exist out there? (I'd also be interested to get opinions from others on this board.) |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 2:14pm
| As far as I am concerned I would be more than willing to enter any LP timing differences that are forwarded on to me. I think we should set some parameters though such as a difference greater than + or - :03 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 3:04pm
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Pat:
I no longer own any original vinyl LPs, but I'd be happy to pull some printed run times off LPs at my local used record shop if I notice that those times differ significantly from their corresponding LP lengths on CD. I'd then leave it up to you and other members to determine the actual run times on those original LPs. I agree with the parameters you've established to report only run time differences of + or - :03. These are the same parameters I've been using when reporting discrepencies between printed and actual run times for 45s. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 06 March 2006 at 8:51pm
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the kinks "come dancing" runs 3:54 while the 45's face states the run time as 3:44
------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 10 March 2006 at 11:35pm
| Eagles - Best of My Love: Actual 45 time is (3:29), not (3:25) as stated on the record label. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:26am
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Pointer Sisters - Slow Hand: Actual 45 time is (3:51), not (3:57) as stated on the record label.
(Credit: Edtop40) |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 10:56am
Apparently that hand is not as slow as we thought... |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:19pm
I will always associate "Slow Hand" with a WKRP episode, in which Venus and Johnny were broadcasting at their transmitter (I think because of a bomb threat), and as Venus was introing "Slow Hand" the turntable shuts down. He then says, "This is Venus, with a slow hand...and turntable to match." Man, I miss WKRP. Shame licensing issues are what's keeping it off DVD. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Jeff H.
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 12:49pm
The 45 and LP versions of "Footloose" also have different intros. The LP soundtrack version starts out with a drumbeat and bass intro. The 45 version begins with cymbal crescendo. That mix is unique to the single and can't be extracted from editing the LP mix. |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 12:52pm
There were two US promo 45s of this: the first has the incorrect 4:29 running time on both sides, the second has a 4:36 "edited" version on one sid eand a 5:21 version on the other - although the 5:21 version is actually 5:31 as noted above. As far as I know, only the incorrect 4:29 version was ever released commercially. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:05am
Regarding Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse Of The Heart":
I had Jim send me a dub of his promo 45, which has the incorrect printed run time & runs the same length as the commercial 45. Does anyone own the other promo and can say what was edited out? If I am looking for a copy of the edited 45, is there a way to distinguish between the two? |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:52am
I have both of the promos, and on the edited one, the second verse just before the instrumental is cut out. You can tell because the label on one side says "4:36 (edited version)". I've heard this version on the radio but maybe it wasn't as widely distributed as the other promo. I got mine on e-bay a couple of years ago. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:57am
| Thanks, torcan! |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 04 December 2006 at 10:23am
My U.S. 45 has a stated time of 4:09 but runs 3:49 (Matrix ZS5-173369 2D). (For what it's worth, my Canadian 45 is exactly the same: stated time of 4:09 but actual time of 3:49). |
Posted By: Robert
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 8:43am
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RE: Kenny Loggins-Vox Humana
I have yet another addition to the 45 entries. My promo 45 of this song (Matrix ZSS-173369 1H, with notation "Mastered by Capitol - 'Wally'") states a running time of 3:54 but an actual time of 4:08. What's more, its speed is about 1.05% faster, which is exactly what I got when I sped up the LP version to match the 45. Of course that doesn't explain Edtop40's version that runs 3:49. Might we need an addition of this into the DB? Maybe "45 Speed?" And another question: just who the hell is Wally? |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 9:11am
"Wally" is Wally Traugott. (from discogs.com: ) "Mastering and lacquer-cutting engineer for Capitol Records' Capitol Mastering subsidiary. "Wally" is always credited in the runout grooves of the record, with MASTERED BY CAPITOL stamped in, and the "Wally" signature etched alongside. Wally has mastered a wide variety of music from Top 40 Rock and Pop to the Beastie Boys." Still haven't found any deadwaxes etched with "The Beav" |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 11:19am
This 45 pressing contains an edit of "Vox Humana." The edit removes about 19 seconds starting at the 3:09 mark. The edit points are on the fourth beat of the measure after the word "life" and in front of the "you got to got to got to..." 19 seconds later. |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 08 January 2020 at 12:58am
From way back in 2006, I found this comment about the 45 length of the song. It is on several CDs in this length. Tom Daly has recently posted a 45 dub of the song, in mono as it was originally issued. It runs 3:09. Another poster mentions a stereo Goldies 45 running 3:01. ed, please let us know where your timing came from - we may need alterations here. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 08 January 2020 at 7:40am
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To DavidClark:
Where is Tom Daly posting? I can't locate a website for him anymore! Andy |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 January 2020 at 2:15pm
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Andrew.
If you're on Facebook, Tom has a private group called "45rpm disc dubs (restored)" and posts there. He also indrequently posts under his normal profile on FB. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 08 January 2020 at 7:45pm
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re; Fairytale. Tom confirmed that it seems the 3:01 length is the stereo side of
a promo 45. So, we need a mono dub of the 45 to have the 45 for this one and database needs updating, unless ed comes thru. ------------- dc1 |