1986 45 versions not avail on cd
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Topic: 1986 45 versions not avail on cd
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: 1986 45 versions not avail on cd
Date Posted: 07 November 2004 at 8:07pm
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Christopher, Gavin & nbsp;One Step Closer To You 45 3:58&nb sp; cd 5:06
Collins, Phil &n bsp;Take Me Home &n bsp; Dream Academy ; The Love Parade 45 remix version Falco & nbsp; Rock Me Amadeus 45 3:1 0--L cd 3:23 ----The Ultimate 90's One Hit Wonder Colectionl has 3:40 vers &n bsp; -----80's pop explosion 2 cd set by entertain wkly has 3:20 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; ----Electric:VBO of New Wave v2 uk import has 3:20 vers &n bsp; -----Gre atest Hits of the 80's 8 cd set has 3:17 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; -----80's Pop Explosion has 3:22 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; Falco & nbsp; Vienna Calling 45 4:0 1 cd 4:08 Franklin, Aretha Another Night 45 3:57& nbsp; cd 4:34 Franklin, Aretha Jumpin' Jack Flash 45 4:56& nbsp; cd 5:05 Gabriel, Peter & nbsp;In Your Eyes 45 6:15&n bsp; cd 5:30 GTR &nb sp; When The Heart Rules The Mind 45 4:27&n bsp; cd 5:28 ----GTR jap import cd has 5:28 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; Daryl Hall &n bsp;Dreamtime 45 &nb sp;4:58 cd 4:42 ---Starting All Over:Best Of H&O jap import has 4:42 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; Hart, Corey & nbsp;Everything In My Heart 45 4:15& nbsp; cd 4:57 Hart, Corey & nbsp;I Am By Your Side 45 3:52&n bsp; cd 4:38 -----V/A--Soft Love v2 has 4:35 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; Honeymoon Suite & nbsp;Feel It Again 45 4:09& nbsp; cd 4:37 Hooters ; Where Do The Children Go 45 4:04&nbs p; cd 5:29 Journey ; Suzanne &nbs p; 45 3:48 &nbs p; cd 3:38 Loverboy &nbs p; This Could Be The Night 45 4:14& nbsp; cd 5:00 -----V/A:Rock on 1986:Mad About You has 4:58 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; ----V/A:Monster ballads ; ; Martin, Marilyn ; Night Moves 45 4:24& nbsp; cd 5:34 McCartney, Paul &n bsp;Press 45 3 :35 cd 4:42 Miami Sound Machine ; Bad Boy 45 3:42&nb sp; Nicks, Stevie I Can't Wait 45 4:01&n bsp; cd 4:36 ----Enchanted Works Of SN has 5:57 extended rock mix vers &n bsp; ----Rock A Little has 4:36 vers &n bsp; &n bsp; Petty, Tom &nb sp;Needles And Pins &n bsp; Ready For The World & nbsp;Digital Display 45 says rt is 3:59 but is 4:04--L Seger, Bob &nb sp;American Storm 45 4:00& nbsp; cd 4:18 Simple Minds & nbsp;All The Things She Said 45 3:56&n bsp; cd 4:16 Townshend, Pete &n bsp;Face To Face 45 4:23&n bsp; cd 5:51 Van Halen & nbsp;Love Walks In 45 4:24&nbs p; cd 5:09 ------------- edtop40 |
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 07 November 2004 at 8:14pm
| I don't understand all this... what does "nbsp" mean? |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 07 November 2004 at 8:16pm
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don't know...i just copied and pasted from my spreadsheet....disregard that nonsense ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 4:55am
| Reading this post made me search for Falco's "Vienna Calling" on CD (the "New 86 Mix/Edit"). I found a review on amazon.com that says this mix is available on Falco "Greatest Hits" Buddha 99653 (1999). I'll probably pick up a used copy for myself since I only have this awesome 45 version transferred to CD-R from my vinyl copy! |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 11:33am
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hey aaronk....the 45 version of "vienna calling" IS the same version that is on the buddha greatest hits......fyi.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 January 2005 at 12:35pm
| Yes, I know. Thanks for confirming it, though. The 45 version is called "The New '86 Mix/Edit." |
Posted By: mlyles
Date Posted: 03 February 2018 at 8:23pm
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The 2015 expanded edition of GTR's self-titled CD
includes the single version of "When The Heart Rules The Mind". |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 04 February 2018 at 10:12am
| Mark, this GTR self titled cd is an import cd and that is why it is not listed in the database. |
Posted By: ptgraphics
Date Posted: 04 February 2018 at 7:20pm
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Feel It Again is on a Time Life comp called Rock Dreams. OPCD-4542.
I have this 2CD set and it is the 4:09 version. Pat |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 04 February 2018 at 8:49pm
That's already listed in Pat's database. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
ptgraphics wrote:Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 02 September 2021 at 4:30pm
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So for those who know I attempt to find every existing Hot 100 position hit across the 1980's digitally (and with help from Aaron and others who have dubbing skills and can edit) have managed to assemble the 1987-1989 annual listings in Whitburn's book with near limited vinyl/ next to no vinyl. In fact those years were easier compared to 1986. The 45 versions are harder to find.
I've been able to with some help able to narrow the search for finishing this year to approximately 30 tracks. I come to the board in hopes you may spot or assist me in pointing out where on CD these hits exist or confirm that the CD I listed has the 45 version. I've made reference to the position in the rank just so if you have the annual you can easily spot and confirm what I am posting. 234 Jets - Private Number 3:37 This to my knowledge has never made CD. The LP version cannot make this 45. 242 Mick Jagger - Ruthless People 3:38 The LP version has been out on CD for a long time, but it cant be made into the 45. 245 Giuffria - I Must Be Dreaming 4:04 The LP version is all that's out there. Never seen a 4:04 anywhere. 248 Rod Stewart - Another Heartache 4:14 The LP version is all that's out there. 252 Chaka Khan - Love Of A Lifetime 4:12 I have reason to believe that this import disc has it. Can anyone confirm? https://www.discogs.com/Chaka-Khan-The-Platinum-Collection/master/829757 - https://www.discogs.com/Chaka-Khan-The-Platinum-Collection/m aster/829757 253 Twisted Sister - Leader of the Pack 3:25 The LP and the 45 are different. 262 Don Johnson - Heartache Away 4:07 This disc is an import, but it appears to have the correct version. https://www.discogs.com/Various-Magic-Music/release/2221500 - https://www.discogs.com/Various-Magic-Music/release/2221500 267 Chaka Khan - Own The Night 4:27 The 4:49 version on the CD Miami Vice Soundtrack does not have the same intro the 45 does. 274 Stevie Nicks - Has Anyone Written Anything For You 4:05 The 4:35 is on Timespace and Stand Back. All Woman 2 is an import that appears to have the closest version I can find: https://www.discogs.com/Various-All-Woman-2/release/9340533 - https://www.discogs.com/Various-All-Woman-2/release/9340533 277 Queen - One Vision 3:46 Its on the 45 as 3:46, but the 4:00 is all I can find. If anyone has the vinyl and loves Queen speak up. 291 Outfield - Everytime You Cry 4:00 On youtube there is a perfect copy of this edit. There isnt however a CD that has anything but the LP version... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5hZUMLkC1o - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5hZUMLkC1o 304 Bob Seger & Silver Bullet- Miami 4:09 Another one where the 45 is nowhere to be found on CD. 309 Wild Blue - Fire With Fire 3:27 the CD for No More Jinx was reissued in 2009 which is probably the LP version as the 45 is labeled "edit" https://www.discogs.com/Wild-Blue-No-More-Jinx/release/2232638 - https://www.discogs.com/Wild-Blue-No-More-Jinx/release/22326 38 313 Andy Taylor - When The Rain Comes Down 3:47 This appears to have it the Miami Vice II soundtrack. Can anyone confirm? https://www.discogs.com/Various-Miami-Vice-II-New-Music-From-The-Television-Series-Miami-Vice/release/733077 - https://www.discogs.com/Various-Miami-Vice-II-New-Music-From -The-Television-Series-Miami-Vice/release/733077 329 Nick Lowe and His Cowboy Outfit - I Knew The Bride 4:00 Again LP version is all that is out there... 330 Dokken- In My Dreams 4:04 No idea if the Greatest Hits has it. All I can get is the 4:20. 331 Bonnie Tyler - If You Were A Woman 4:14 There is a 3:57 on The Best of Bonnie Tyler on two import comps, could this be it?... https://www.discogs.com/Bonnie-Tyler-The-Best/master/96274 - https://www.discogs.com/Bonnie-Tyler-The-Best/master/96274 https://www.discogs.com/Bonnie-Tyler-Simply-The-Best/release/6192248 - https://www.discogs.com/Bonnie-Tyler-Simply-The-Best/release /6192248 333 Limited Warranty - Victory Line 4:00 The CD of the 5:03 LP came out in 2007 self titled album. Otherwise no luck on the 45 version. 337 Device - Who Says 4:09 The 4:52 LP is on CD. That's it. 339 Klymaxx - The Men All Pause 3:46 If you want the 7:11 extended version, it is on plenty of comps. The 45, not available. 341 Billy Squier - Love Is The Hero 4:04 Same situation, LP is on plenty of GH comps... 347 Alan Parsons Project - Stereotomy 4:17 The Best of Vol 2 has the closest running time, which is 4:26. Possible edit or correct 45 version? https://www.discogs.com/The-Alan-Parsons-Project-The-Best-Of-The-Alan-Parsons-Project-Volume-2/release/2342425 - https://www.discogs.com/The-Alan-Parsons-Project-The-Best-Of -The-Alan-Parsons-Project-Volume-2/release/2342425 349 Rod Stewart - Every Beat Of My Heart 4:41 Appears to be on an import called Kuschelrock 6 and a German Best of 86 Import (running 4:50). https://www.discogs.com/Various-Kuschelrock-6/release/5921088 - https://www.discogs.com/Various-Kuschelrock-6/release/592108 8 https://www.discogs.com/Various-Best-Of-Hit-Album-86/release/2009772 - https://www.discogs.com/Various-Best-Of-Hit-Album-86/release /2009772 354 Ashford Simpson - Count Your Blessings 4:11 The 4:44 is all I can find. 355 Bad Company - This Love 3:43 Cant find anything but the LP version at 4:02 on CD. 361 Barry Manilow - I'm Your Man 4:03 The LP is on Cd at 4:53... 364 Stevie Wonder - Land of La La 4:19 45 not on cd 368 Jennifer Holliday - No Frills Love [Remix/Fade] 3:35 on Promo 45 Only 3:58 on CD 372 KBC Band - It's Not You It's Not Me 3:20 LP on CD is 3:47 376 Isle Of Man - Am I Forgiven 4:11 (LP version) Available on US and Japan CD: https://www.discogs.com/Isle-Of-Man-Isle-Of-Man/release/11604198 - https://www.discogs.com/Isle-Of-Man-Isle-Of-Man/release/1160 4198 https://www.discogs.com/Isle-Of-Man-Isle-Of-Man/release/4957096 - https://www.discogs.com/Isle-Of-Man-Isle-Of-Man/release/4957 096 377 Secret Ties - Dancin In My Sleep 3:33 Album is 5:10 and not even on CD 382 One To One - Angel In My Pocket 4:13 (LP version) Available on the 2010 remaster of Forward Your Emotions https://www.discogs.com/One-To-One-Forward-Your-Emotions/release/2123655 - https://www.discogs.com/One-To-One-Forward-Your-Emotions/rel ease/2123655 385 Yarbrough and Peoples - I Wouldn't Lie 3:39 All CD versions 5:02 390 B.E. Taylor Group - Karen 4:08 Appears to be on this unofficial release, 4:45 on CD https://www.discogs.com/BE-Taylor-Group-Life-Goes-On/release/9697227 - https://www.discogs.com/BE-Taylor-Group-Life-Goes-On/release /9697227 391 Nick Jameson - Weatherman 4:09 (LP version on A Crowd Of One) Not on CD 392 David Pack - Prove Me Wrong 4:06 All CD appearances are 4:21 393 Maurice White - I Need You 4:07 All CD appearances are 4:35 394 Ray Parker Jr and Helen Terry - One Sunny Day 3:20 Soundtrack version is 4:04 396 Southside Johnny and The Jukes - Walk Away Renee 3:50 Possible on 1993 Rhino Comp https://www.discogs.com/Southside-Johnny-The-Asbury-Jukes-All-I-Want-Is-Everything-The-Best-Of-Southside-Johnny-The-Asbury-J/release/6305208 - https://www.discogs.com/Southside-Johnny-The-Asbury-Jukes-Al l-I-Want-Is-Everything-The-Best-Of-Southside-Johnny-The-Asbu ry-J/release/6305208 ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 02 September 2021 at 8:41pm
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Incredible job, PopArchivist, thank you for this!
I can take one song off your list: I can confirm that the 45 version of Dokken's "In My Dreams" running 4:04 is on their greatest hits collection, "Very Best Of." ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 02 September 2021 at 9:27pm
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My retail 45 RPM copy of Klymaxx The Men All Pause runs
3:49. ------------- |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 04 September 2021 at 6:07pm
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Klymaxx's "The men all Pause" is on the various artists
MCA Special Products compilation Club Disco. https://www.discogs.com/Various-Club- Disco/release/1362959 |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 04 September 2021 at 10:21pm
Thanks. There is one I will have to purchase. Glad it made it to CD. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 04 September 2021 at 10:22pm
Good another one off the list. Thanks! ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 06 September 2021 at 5:29pm
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A few notes:
From what I understand the 45 promo version of Queen's One Vision can be made by removing the first 15 seconds of the single version that was released in the rest of the world on CD at 4:01. Can anyone confirm? I can now confirm that the Platinum Collection does indeed have the 45 version of Chaka's Love Of A Lifetime at 4:15. I can also confirm Heartache Away at 4:07 is the 45 version on CD. I can also confirm One To One- Angel in My Pocket as well from the 2010 remaster. Thanks everyone! ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 08 September 2021 at 7:23pm
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Miami Sound Machine - Bad Boy
This is now on the 2009/2015 compilation https://www.discogs.com/Gloria-Estefan-Playlist-The-Very-Best-Of-Gloria-Estefan/master/605309 - Playlist: The Very Best of Gloria Estefan (this is mentioned in Pat's database). It is also on many editions of the 1992 compilation https://www.discogs.com/Gloria-Estefan-Greatest-Hits/master/104923 - Gloria Estefan - Greatest Hits ... but not on any of the US versions; imports only. |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 09 September 2021 at 8:24am
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^A point of clarification: The U.S. single version of "Bad Boy" seems to only be available on the 'Playlist' CD that mjb50 notes above, and the promo-only 'Hits' compilation.
The version on 'Greatest Hits' (1992) is an alternate mix that may have been used on the 45 in another country at some point prior to that. (I am under the impression that no one has come up with concrete proof of the alternate version playing on a vinyl 7" record, but we agree that it could be out there somewhere.) |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 09 September 2021 at 2:25pm
| Whoops, you're right! Totally different remix, despite the similar lengths. I see there's quite a bit of info provided now on the https://www.discogs.com/Miami-Sound-Machine-Bad-Boy-Remix/master/59070 - Bad Boy master release notes on Discogs. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 09 September 2021 at 8:25pm
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If you want to talk about a top 10 edit not on CD, Mike + The Mechanics - All I Need Is A Miracle's Promo 45 Edit runs 3:47, not 3:42 as it does on every instance on CD. In some instances it cuts off abruptly at 3:42.
As discussed in another thread, Regina's Baby Love is a 1986 Top 10 that in its 45 version (4:06) does not appear on any 80's comps. While extended versions and mixes are out there, it only appears on CD on 1986's Curiosity. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 10 September 2021 at 4:49am
It's interesting that judging by the running times of the songs on this compilation, it seems that they used the album versions for all the other songs except "The Men All Pause". I guess the 7-Minute length was too much for them! ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 17 September 2021 at 6:52pm
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For anyone interested this is the updated list to finish 1986's Hot 100. Still looking into a few areas for some of these songs on CD that were mentioned on page 1 of the thread..
223 Barbra Streisand - Somewhere 4:28 234 Jets - Private Number 3:37 235 Chicago - 25 or 6 to 4 3:45 (45 Promo) 242 Mick Jagger - Ruthless People 3:38 245 Giuffria - I Must Be Dreaming 4:04 248 Rod Stewart - Another Heartache 4:14 253 Twisted Sister - Leader of the Pack 3:25 267 Chaka Khan - Own The Night 4:27 274 Stevie Nicks - Has Anyone Written Anything For You 4:05 291 Outfield - Everytime You Cry 4:00 304 Bob Seger & Silver Bullet- Miami 4:09 309 Wild Blue - Fire With Fire 3:27 313 Andy Taylor - When The Rain Comes Down 3:47 329 Nick Lowe and His Cowboy Outfit - I Knew The Bride 4:00 333 Limited Warranty - Victory Line 4:00 337 Device - Who Says 4:09 339 Klymaxx - The Men All Pause 3:46 341 Billy Squier - Love Is The Hero 4:04 347 Alan Parsons Project - Stereotomy 4:17 349 Rod Stewart - Every Beat Of My Heart 4:41 354 Ashford Simpson - Count Your Blessings 4:11 355 Bad Company - This Love 3:43 361 Barry Manilow - I'm Your Man 4:03 364 Stevie Wonder - Land of La La 4:19 368 Jennifer Holliday - No Frills Love [Remix/Fade] 3:35 on Promo 45 372 KBC Band - It's Not You It's Not Me 3:20 376 Isle Of Man - Am I Forgiven 4:11 377 Secret Ties - Dancin In My Sleep 3:33 385 Yarbrough and Peoples - I Wouldn't Lie 3:39 390 B.E. Taylor Group - Karen 4:08 391 Nick Jameson - Weatherman 4:09 392 David Pack - Prove Me Wrong 4:06 393 Maurice White - I Need You 4:07 394 Ray Parker Jr and Helen Terry - One Sunny Day 3:20 396 Southside Johnny and The Jukes - Walk Away Renee 3:50 ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 September 2021 at 4:35pm
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The single edit of Rod Stewart "Every Beat of My Heart" is on this common import CD:
https://www.discogs.com/Rod-Stewart-The-Best-Of-Rod-Stewart/release/491148 - https://www.discogs.com/Rod-Stewart-The-Best-Of-Rod-Stewart/ release/491148 |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 23 October 2021 at 9:37pm
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Rich, I made this edit from a CD recently, if you're still looking ..
223 Barbra Streisand - Somewhere 4:28 |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 27 October 2021 at 12:33am
I was under the impression that there was something unique about the audio in the 45 vs the LP.... ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 October 2021 at 7:37am
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That is correct regarding "Somewhere." The first 8 seconds are mixed differently on the 45 version, as some of the sound effects have been removed from the mix as well as a brief vocal ad-lib. The remainder of the song is the same mix as the LP version. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 31 August 2022 at 11:28am
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Regarding Chaka Khan - Love Of A Lifetime in Poparchivist's
list. I don't think the version on the platinum collection is the true 45 version. The track runs very slow. From my recollection, there is one edit and a possible pitch difference from the LP - easily recreated. The track duration is closer to 4:11 and not 4:16. I don't have the the promo 45 anymore to verify but the version on platinum collection does not sound right to me. Can anyone confirm? ------------- Rick |
Posted By: cristianmdp
Date Posted: 31 August 2022 at 4:42pm
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About Barbra's "Somewhere", I think the version used in
the official music video is the 45 one. If that's correct, then the best source for it could be audio from the laserdisc (this one: https://www.discogs.com/release/7541816-Barbra-Streisand- Putting-It-Together-The-Making-Of-The-Broadway-Album ). Later released on DVD (2007 - LPCM, DTS) as part of this set: https://www.discogs.com/master/1109333-Streisand- The-Concerts The bad news is that towards the end of it the song's audio fades into the interview. But maybe the intro of these video releases could be used to recreate a digital sourced 45 version. Not an expert. Just an idea. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 31 August 2022 at 8:16pm
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Cristian sent me the laserdisc audio, and it's very narrow stereo. The best source (and the one I used) is the promo 12" single. I tacked the intro from the 12" onto the CD version, and it sounds nice. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |