Vikki Carr-"It Must Be Him"
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Topic: Vikki Carr-"It Must Be Him"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Vikki Carr-"It Must Be Him"
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 4:36pm
| My commercial 45, which is mono and confirmed as Liberty 55986, has a listed time of (2:48), but an actual time of (2:53). |
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 September 2012 at 5:28pm
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I notice on my Vikki Carr Best of CD on EMI 93450, "It Must Be Him" begins fading out at approximately 2:23, while the song on the Hard to Find 45s on CD, Vol. 13: The Love Album doesn't start fading until around 2:37. So can anyone point out which is more representative of when the fadeout starts occurring on the 45?
Also, for some unknown reason, I have both CD appearances of this song listed as "LP mix" on my hard drive, but the database makes no mention of a 45/LP mix difference. Is there anything on the 45 or LP (other than your typical mono/stereo left-right channel placement) that would warrant a notation of mix difference? |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 29 September 2012 at 6:13pm
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This song must have been issued twice, my (promo) copy is Liberty 55917, with a listed time of 2:45. Matrix # is LB2307 (handwritten) followed by a stamped X.
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Posted By: jono
Date Posted: 29 September 2012 at 7:54pm
Todd, I noticed that up until recently Pat had this song listed as "LP Mix" on, I think, all versions on cd in the database. I believe that he took that comment off recently, so maybe he discovered something was or wasn't present in the mix after all (not sure what that difference was perceived to be). Possibly he was consulted for the new Eric cd and it was reviewed at that point?? Jon O. |
Todd Ireland wrote:Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 September 2012 at 9:25pm
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Ah... Jon, I think you may be onto something because as I review the list of recent modifications in the database, it appears all entries for "It Must Be Him" were revised on 9/14. Now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure they all did previously have an "LP mix" comment next to them and that's why I filed my own audio files that way.
Now if we can figure out at approximately what point the 45 fade begins... |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 30 September 2012 at 1:59am
Steve, you are correct about there being two different "It Must Be Him" 45 releases on Liberty. Back in the summer of 1966, a full year before the eventual 9/2/67 BB debut of the "hit release" of "It Must Be Him", as Liberty 55986, your Liberty 55917 45 was released. Your 45's flip side, "So Nice (Summer Samba)" was the 45's actual "A" side. At the time, Carr's "vocal version" was one of several vocal versions (along with ones by Connie Francis and Johnny Mathis, just to name two others) attempting to compete for airplay against Walter Wanderley's then- current instrumental hit version of the exact same song, "Summer Samba." All 3 of these "So Fine" vocal 45 versions did make the BB AC chart, in Sept/Oct of 1966. All, however, were dwarfed by Wanderley's version, which reached both Top 3 AC and gave him his lone Top 40 hit on the Hot 100. However, this earlier 1966 Liberty 55917 45 was also issued in England. This resulted in "It Must Be Him" becoming a "surprise" UK hit. This prompted Liberty U.S. to both re-release and promote "It Must Be Him" as a U.S. "A" side the next year, 1967. Hope this sheds some light on your 45's origins, Steve. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 14 September 2013 at 7:03am
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after listening to my vinyl 45, issued as liberty 55986,
the fade is 0:13 long; from 2:40-2:53.........all the cd entries dump the song early, or the mono version is purposely longer than the stereo version......the stereo cdr version i have fades for 0:08 from 2:39-2:47....i don't recall where i dubbed it from, though..... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Oddbjorn
Date Posted: 09 November 2017 at 7:09am
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FWIW: My UK 45 (Liberty LIB 55917 - mono) runs 2:45 (no listed time) on my turntable and matches (to my ears and don't taken into account usual mono/stereo differences) the UK CD 'Memories Are Made Of This - Virgin VTDCD 602 - stereo) from 2004. Hard to Find 45s on CD, Vol. 13: The Love Album matches also this one but has some longer ending. So I think it would be safe to say that that UK and US version are the same except that the US version runs approximately :07 longer. ------------- OddNor |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 November 2017 at 10:24am
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Pulled out my commercial 45 which is mono, Liberty
55986. Mine also has a listed time of 2:48 but runs 2:53. The fade starts at 2:41. Last thing heard on my 45 is "oh, hello, hello." |
Posted By: Oddbjorn
Date Posted: 09 November 2017 at 1:25pm
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The UK 45 last words are from around 2.42 - 2.43:"or I shall die..". So do also the Virgin CD. The fade starts around 2:38. ------------- OddNor |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 November 2017 at 3:06pm
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At first, I was thinking this would be a 45 length vs.
LP length but some 45's have the same length as the LP. |