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Topic: Jackson 5 - Mama’s Pearl
Posted By: eriejwg
Subject: Jackson 5 - Mama’s Pearl
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 5:09pm
The database says LP version, but have been told Mama's Pearl on The Jacksons Story is the stereo 45 mix.
Is this true?

The database says the 45 version is on Anthology, but all pressings on the download services I think are the LP version.

How can one tell the difference?



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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 20 August 2008 at 9:15pm
As I recall, a (narrow) stereo remix matching the 45 was done for the Jackson 5 Greatest Hits album that came out in the early 70s. I thought that was what's on "The Jacksons Story" too, but maybe I was misinformed.


Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 21 August 2008 at 6:31am
I believe you are correct in that the version on the Jacksons Story is the 45 version. You have to be careful with the Anthology situation because there were two different cd's issued called Anthology. The Motown 6194 Anthology has the 45 version while the Motown 012159650 Anthology has the LP version. I would guess the download services are using the newer Anthology which is the LP version.


Posted By: waldo
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 4:46am
Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

The database says LP version, but have been told Mama's Pearl on The Jacksons Story is the stereo 45 mix.
Is this true?

The database says the 45 version is on Anthology, but all pressings on the download services I think are the LP version.

How can one tell the difference?


a quick way to tell the difference between the 45 and LP version is that there is a "bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum" introduction sung by Tito Jackson on the 45.

only two CD's feature it in mono, no stereo version has the same introduction..

Anthology 1986 and Jacksons Story 2004



Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 8:04am
This comes as great news to me... I've been wanting the 45 version of "Mama's Pearl" on CD, but I held off buying the 1986 Anthology CD set because the song fades out :09 too soon. Now, thanks to you guys, I've now learned I already have the complete 45 version on the Jacksons Story disc I bought four years ago!

Hey, it's always exciting to cross an item off the "wish list" without having to lift a finger! :-)


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 8:36am
Glad I started the thread!


Posted By: waldo
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 8:56am
yeah it fades early on the '86 set. is the Jacksons Story one the exact 45 timing?




Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 9:01am
My copy, which I grabbed at Napster, runs 3:09 on The Jacksons Story.

On my copy, just noticed you can hear some tape hiss at the end. Is it that way on the CD, too?


Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 9:11am
Hi Waldo,

Could you please edit/clarify your last post?

It's confusing to me, and might be confusing to others.

Thank you.

Andy


Posted By: waldo
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 9:47am
what's confusing about it.. ?





Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 10:10am
Hi Waldo,

What's confusing about it...?

"only two CD's feature it in mono, no stereo version has the same introduction..

Anthology 1986 and Jacksons Story 2004"

Anthology 1986 has it in stereo with Tito's bass-scat vocal. (I don't own 'Jacksons Story').

Could you kindly re-word your post more clearly.

Thank you.

Andy







Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 10:16am
I do believe the Jacksons Story version is also in stereo.

I would assume the mono 45 version won't see the light of day until the release of the Motown Singles 1971 set.

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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 10:17am
Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

Hey, it's always exciting to cross an item off the "wish list" without having to lift a finger! :-)


QFT.

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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 12:52pm
What's QFT, Doug?


Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 2:41pm
QFT means Quoted For Truth.

In other words, I agree wholeheartedly.

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Posted By: waldo
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

Hi Waldo,

What's confusing about it...?

"only two CD's feature it in mono, no stereo version has the same introduction..

Anthology 1986 and Jacksons Story 2004"

Anthology 1986 has it in stereo with Tito's bass-scat vocal. (I don't own 'Jacksons Story').

Could you kindly re-word your post more clearly.

Thank you.

Andy







Andy.. are you sure Mama's Pearl on Anthology '86 is stereo? it sounds Mono to me. i always thought it was..
or was it simply the 45 mix folded to stereo. you're right.. maybe i'm confused.



Posted By: BillCahill
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 4:46pm
I don't have Anthology but "Mama's Pearl" with Tito on the intro is in stereo on the British import Motown "Chartbusters 6" (which also contains a stereo single edit of River Deep Mountain High by Supremes and Four Tops) and on "Michael Jackson, The Motown Years" on Silver Eagle records (Canada)

Since they are imports they wouldn't be in the database.


Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 22 August 2008 at 7:32pm
Yes, Waldo, my copy of the 1986 'Anthology' has "Mama's Pearl definitely in stereo.

Andy


Posted By: waldo
Date Posted: 26 August 2008 at 2:44am
Originally posted by BillCahill BillCahill wrote:

"Michael Jackson, The Motown Years" on Silver Eagle records (Canada)


i didn't know the single mix - albeit in mono or stereo - was also used on this compilation, that's three Jackson CD compilations in total then to use it.



Posted By: waldo
Date Posted: 09 January 2009 at 3:28am
i noticed at the very end of Mama's Pearl on the Jacksons Story.. the song kind of fades out and then comes back in again for a split second or two.. is this sound dip a fault on my disc?



Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 09 January 2009 at 1:00pm
Originally posted by waldo waldo wrote:

i noticed at the very end of Mama's Pearl on the Jacksons Story.. the song kind of fades out and then comes back in again for a split second or two.. is this sound dip a fault on my disc?

I had copied the track onto my iPod. Hadn't noticed anything like that after listening from about the (2:54) mark on.

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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 June 2013 at 8:41am
I believe that this is still one of the mono mixes that Brian W. is trying to get
Harry Weinger to correct/provide to us, from what appears on Complete
Motown Singles. I just noticed that, now 2 pages strong, no 1971 45
specifics were ever provided for this song. So here goes:

My commercial 45 is mono, with a listed time of (3:09) and an actual time of
(3:11). Deadwax info is "C2-M5-D1-4 (handwritten, in error) M4001-01".
Also, both sides of my promo 45 have the exact same info.


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 10 March 2017 at 9:33pm
An update on this one... For those who are sticklers about the exact versions, the stereo is very, very close but not quite the 45 version. On the stereo mix from Jacksons Story (and I assume Anthology), there is a waka-waka guitar on the intro. This guitar is not heard at all on the mono 45 intro.

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