Eagles - One Of These Nights
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Topic: Eagles - One Of These Nights
Posted By: Paul Esch
Subject: Eagles - One Of These Nights
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 10:42am
I am slowly trying to make my own single edits of LP versions,
based on my own 45s, since there doesn't seem to be a huge run of
re-issue CDs out lately with single versions on them. So far, I
haven't done too badly, experimenting with Seger, the Little River
Band, and using the very helpful editing tips sprinkled throughout
other posts on this site.
Now, I'm editing down Eagles LP versions down to their single
edits. However, it sounds to me as though "One Of These Nights"
was not only edited, but sped-up. I'm not 100% sure of my turntable
speed, so could anybody out there confirm if the 45 version is sped-
up? Thanks.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 4:53pm
Paul:
Actually, one of my next homemade 45 edits I will be replicating from CD is "One of These Nights". I've acquired an mp3 copy of the commercial 45 from Edtop40. I've always found his turntable to be pretty accurate so I believe his mp3 reflects the correct 45 speed.
I ran a quick A/B comparison between the 45 and the LP version on CD via my Adobe Audition software and I've concluded that both versions play very close to the same speed. The 45 run time is 3:34 so if you're coming up with a significantly shorter run time when you clock your 45 copy, then your turntable is likely playing at a faster than normal speed.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 10 October 2005 at 5:50pm
Not to hijack this thread, but is it possible to replicate the 45 version of the Eagles' "Best Of My Love" by a simple edit (or two or 10 or 20) of the LP version? And if so, how?
Doug
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 3:24am
Haven't checked up on Best of My Love, but "One of These Nights" was the first homemade edit I ever did. I didn't notice the 45 running at a different speed. I edited mine from the DCC gold Gr. Hits.
Tip: one thing you'll want to notice is that the volume of the sound VERY SLIGHTLY increases at the edit point, because the point they jump to is after the fadeout already starts, so they needed to up the volume to match the pre-edit point, and they appear to have overcompensated. The edit point is right between "these" and "nights," right before, "And I wanna say, heeeeeey."
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Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 10:09am
As for "Best Of My Love," there is only one edit. At the end of the
bridge, at about the 3:06 mark, when Henley sings "I guess that
wasn't enough, oh ooh woh but" the edit cuts out everything until
the band is singing "Oh, sweet darlin'." Just go to the point where
there are two sets of "Oh, sweet darlin's" before Henley sings "Every
night and day." Then fade from 3:18 to 3:30 and cut off the rest.
It'll sound like an abrupt cut, but that's the way it is on the 45.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 11 October 2005 at 12:49pm
So it should sound like this:
. . .I guess it wasn't enough, oh, oh-whoa-hoh, but
Ohhhhhhhhhh, sweet darling
You get the best of my love
Whoa-hoh-hoh-ohhhhhhh, sweet darling
Every night and day
You get the best of my love
(Start fade at 3:18)
Yes?
Doug
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Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 12 October 2005 at 3:32pm
Doug--Yes, that's correct.
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Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 5:35pm
It's been reported in ICE that many of the Eagles CDs were issued with speed problems, and are supposedly corrected in the remastered versions. I don't know if that has anything to do with the speed difference noticed.
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Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 7:08pm
See I thought that the only splice in "...Nights" was eliminating the first 17 seconds on the 45-rpm disc. Where were the other edits?
------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Burlington, Ontario)
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 7:06am
And that single edit sticks out like a sore thumb and audible as heck.
------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 1:03am
Can someone report what the edit points are in the single version of "One of These Nights"? I wanted to get a WAV of the edit, and figured I'd find all the details on this board, so I was surprised it wasn't here.
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Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 5:56am
It always surprises me to hear edits of the Eagles music on the radio. After all these years, most people (not us collectors) have totally forgotten about the edited 45 mixes. Thanks for the edit points on "Best Of My Love". I always appreciate the insight on this site.
------------- the way it was heard on the radio
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 7:33am
Just so no one is mistaken, there are TWO edit points in the 45 of "Best Of My Love".
Andy
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 8:53am
Oh? What's the other? (Is it on the fade?)
------------- Doug
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 10:28am
"Take It To The Limit" had to have the most difficult 45
edit during the ad-lib part of the song.
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 7:14pm
To Doug:
Yes, it is on the fade. It's hard for me to explain, but it's easy to figure out when you have a dub of the real 45.
Andy
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 26 April 2013 at 4:42pm
Since the subject of The Eagles' "One of These Nights" has come back up, I thought I'd also point out that the commercial 45 was EQ'd to sound brighter and more "airy" compared to the LP version which sonically sounds darker and more muffled. In my humble opinion, the 45's punchier and more energetic tonality is how this awesome song was meant to be heard!
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Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 29 April 2013 at 5:36am
I found "One Of These Nights" and Todd you're on the mark. It is a much punchier mix than the album.
------------- the way it was heard on the radio
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 29 April 2013 at 11:33am
AndrewChouffi wrote:
To Doug:
Yes, it is on the fade. It's hard for me to explain, but
it's easy to figure out when you have a dub of the real 45.
Andy |
Yes, and as I recall from doing my own edit, they didn't
quite properly match the volume when they adjusted it
coming in from the fade, so it's like, "One of these
NIIIIIGHTS." Not quite that bad, but if you're listening
for it, you can hear the jump in volume.
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 30 April 2013 at 6:24am
To Brian W.:
Actually in my statement I was talking about "Best Of My Love".
But your statement about "One Of These Nights" is absolutely correct.
On another note, I am of the opinion that the single version of "One Of These Nights" is NOT a different mix, it is simply equalized with some upper midrange & treble frequencies in it (and maybe some extra compression in the mastering stage).
Andy
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Posted By: Plastic Steel
Date Posted: 06 March 2016 at 10:44pm
"Best Of My Love," a big hit from January 1975, probably ought to have its own thread. I had a hard time finding info on this one, it being tucked into another song's thread and all.
I counted two edits (and an early fade) to create the 45 version (mine runs to 3:30), but I didn't hear an edit in the fadeout, as was maybe mentioned above.
The first one was explained. But the second one is needed to get the correct, harmonized "oooooh sweet darlin'" section order after the first edit.
First edit:
At the 3:06.9 mark, right after Don Henley sings "oh oo oh, but..." Snip out the next (approx.) 11 seconds, ending at 3:17.6.
The reason you need to end the splice at 3:17.6 and not later is that the first harmonized chord, where the Eagles are singing "oooooh sweet darlin'" after the edit, is sung as a major chord. The next sustained chord (on "ooooh") on the LP version is actually in a minor chord (listen for the low note in the chord for the difference between the first and second harmonies). They then go to a slightly dissonant chord for the third and last harmony before Don's "every night and day." So, on the LP version, this part of the song has three different chords that are sung major-minor-dissonant. On the 45, you need one major and then one minor chord before "every night and day." So removing everything up to the second chord will get you two harmonies (minor-dissonant) instead of what it should be (major-minor). Therefore...
Second edit:
This one's a little tricky. When Henley sings a descending "sweet darlin'" after the second (minor) harmony at (45's 3:19.5 / LP's 3:30), there's a beat/guitar strum you can edit on during "sweet."
45: remove 3:19.5 to the next "sweet" sung by Don at 3:30 after the third harmony chord.
LP: same idea, only remove 3:30 to 3:40.7.
Fade:
A pretty quick fadeout.
45: Begin at 3:23, right after "every night and day." Fade to zero by 3:30.
LP Begin at 3:45, right after "every night and day." Fade to zero by 3:52.
Your final 45 version should run very close to 3:30 and have two edits at 3:06.9 and 3:19.5 of the 45.
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Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 10:16pm
And it's faded before "day".UPDATE:I rechecked, and it does go "day"(the recreation I tried of the LP version wasn't a good fade..)
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Posted By: Fastphilly
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 10:24pm
Maybe it's just me, but the 45 mix of "One Of These Nights" sounds to be a "tad" faster than the LP mix.
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