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Topic: GLENN FREY - "True Love"
Posted By: abagon
Subject: GLENN FREY - "True Love"
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 6:57am
GLENN FREY - "True Love"

The actual commercial 45 running time is (4:07), the listed time is "4:10" on the record label. (MCA 53363)



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Posted By: jrjr
Date Posted: 13 May 2009 at 6:25pm
anybody know the difference between the 45 version and the LP version??? love that false ending...


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 13 May 2009 at 10:15pm
The 45 is an early fade of the LP.

I may be nitpicking, but I did notice, that there is about 1.5 seconds or so more silence at the false ending on the 45 than there is on the version from the Solo Collection.


Posted By: jrjr
Date Posted: 14 May 2009 at 1:05pm
hey john, that is a good catch! i noticed it too, when i went back and listened to the LP version... first time i played the 45, i thought maybe it ended w/o the coda, the pause was that long!


Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 24 June 2011 at 2:44pm
Just wondering about this........If the difference between the 45 and LP version is that the 45 is an early fade of the LP version (as noted above), shouldn't the database list all appearances as "LP length" instead of "LP version"?


Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 25 June 2011 at 10:12am
"True Love" from the album CD "Soul Searchin'" (MCA MCAD-6239)
from the word "love" at 3:17.4, through the silence, to the next drum hit at 3:24.4 (about 7 seconds)

"True Love" of the commercial 45
from the word "love" at 3:17.3, through the silence, to the next drum hit at 3:26 (about 8.7 seconds)

--abagon


Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 19 September 2012 at 7:51pm
So are you saying, Abagon, that to create the 45 you need to put 1.5 more seconds of silence in the break, then fade early to (4:07)?

(And if so, where do you start the fade?)

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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 September 2012 at 8:39pm
If my memory is correct, I seem to recall that the sustain at the false ending is longer on the 45 than on the LP. In other words, they didn't just hack out some silence on the LP version; they also cut the tail end of the sustained note. Perhaps someone can confirm.

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Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 9:47am
Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

So are you saying, Abagon, that to create the 45 you need to put 1.5 more seconds of silence in the break, then fade early to (4:07)?

(And if so, where do you start the fade?)

Yes.
The end is at 4:07.5, the starting fade point is around 3:53 on the commercial 45.

Originally posted by abagon abagon wrote:

"True Love" from the album CD "Soul Searchin'" (MCA MCAD-6239)
from the word "love" at 3:17.4, through the silence, to the next drum hit at 3:24.4 (about 7 seconds)


(Additional note) The above data includes the blank of the first 0.2 seconds on the CD. There's no speed difference between the 45 and the original "Soul Searchin'" CD.

--abagon



Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 1:01pm
Thanks, Abagon. Is Aaron right, though, that the sustained note is a little longer on the 45, therefore the 45 cannot be created from the LP?

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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 1:21pm
I just sent you a dub of the 45, Doug.

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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 5:39pm
Thanks, Aaron (and Abagon). From what I can tell, it's very close as to the length of the trailout--I don't think it's extended.

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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 8:21pm
I compared the 45 version of Glenn Frey's "True Love", as it appears on the promo CD single, to the LP version. Aaron is correct... The sustained note during the false ending does indeed trail off longer on the 45 version all the way until the next drum hit. Therefore the 45 version cannot be correctly replicated by just simply inserting 1.7 seconds of silence prior to the said drum hit on the LP version.

And for what it's worth, my promo CD single copy of "True Love" on MCA 6239 contains the following track listing and actual run times:

1) [No description listed] - 4:11 (printed time: 4:10)
2) LP Version - 4:38 (printed time: 4:40)

Track 1 is the 45 version but runs several seconds longer. (Those final seconds however are barely audible.)


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 8:31pm
Great info, Todd! Thanks!

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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 7:59am
Indeed. I thought it was real close, but I'll defer to the expert.

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Posted By: PaulEschen
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 8:26am
Does anyone know if the UK CD single has the 45 version?


Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 10:42am
Seemingly yes. According to Discogs, "True Love" on DMCA-1284 runs (4:08).

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