"Talk It Over" - Grayson Hugh
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Topic: "Talk It Over" - Grayson Hugh
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: "Talk It Over" - Grayson Hugh
Date Posted: 14 October 2008 at 8:38pm
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Regarding Grayson Hugh's "Talk It Over", the database currently notes that commercial 45 copies all run 4:17. This must be based on the printed record label time because abagon informs me his commercial 45 copy has an actual time of 4:01, not 4:17 as stated on the record label.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 7:43pm
I just dug out my cassette single copy of "Talk It Over"... I timed it and came up with a run time of 4:16, which is identical to the song's length on the Blind to Reason CD (RCA 2171). (The time stated on the cassette single sleeve is 4:17.)
With abagon reporting that his commercial 45 runs 4:01, which appears to be identical to the short DJ 45 side, database comments will need to be updated and revised accordingly, including for The Beach Music Anthology Box Set Volume 3 CD set on Ripete 2277. Now, does anyone know if the 45 running 4:01 is an edit or an early fade of the LP and cassette single running 4:16?
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:42pm
I do know that the DJ edit was an actual edit and not just an early fade.
I also seem to recall that it was difficult to find the edit point, or perhaps there were a couple of seconds on the DJ edit that were not on the album version.
Andy
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Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 7:55am
I have compared the commercial 45 with the CD "Blind To Reason" U.S. releases. As AndrewChouffi pointed out, surely, the dj 45 side (equal commercial 45) isn't the fadeout version. When it cut the unnecessary range (3:38-3:54) of the LP version for making the 45 version. A sound on the LP version lacks the :00.6 seconds (at 3:38) on the commercial 45.
--abagon
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 10:09am
Thank you, Andrew and Abagon, for chiming in. From your responses, it can now be concluded that all CD appearances in the database contain the LP and cassette single version, with the exception of The Beach Music Anthology Box Set Volume 3 CD set (Ripete 2277), which is the commercial 45 version (faded :06 early?).
Now, can the 4:16 LP and cassette single version be edited down to match the 4:01 commercial 45 version?
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:46pm
I don't think so, because of that second of unique audio on the short version.
Andy
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Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 8:15am
Todd: I'm sorry for my elusive post.
As the result, it's impossible to make the 45 version from the LP version.
--abagon
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 12:26pm
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The short dj vinyl 45 states and runs (3:58). The version on The Beach Music Anthology Volume 3 is the same as the dj edit but faded :03 sooner.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 16 February 2009 at 8:20pm
my commercial 45 issued as rca 8802 states a run time on the label at 4:17 and does indeed run that length and is identical to the cd version below
(S) (4:16) RCA 2171 Blind To Reason
the 45's run out groove states "8802-7-RA"
this is in contridiction to abagon's findings and should be looked into further....is it possible that abagon's 45 is either a promo or import??....or is this an instance of 2 different issued 45's....
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edtop40
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 16 February 2009 at 9:18pm
Guys, for what's it's worth, here is my promo CD single information for the song:
Grayson Hugh-"Talk It Over" (8802-2 RDJ)
1-Talk It Over (non-described version) (listed 4:17; actual 4:16)
2-Talk It Over (Edit) (listed 3:58; actual 4:01)
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Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 17 February 2009 at 1:18am
The matrix number in the run out groove on the commercial 45 "Talk It Over" which I have is "8802-7-RX-A". So there are 2 different pressings certainly!
--abagon
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 10 July 2013 at 7:38pm
FYI... Regarding Grayson Hugh's "Talk It Over", the database currently states: "dj copies of this cd single run (4:16) and (3:58) the "edit" not (4:01) as stated on the cd label".
It appears the actual and printed time shown above for the "Edit" are in reverse because Jim reported that the "Edit" on his promo CD single has an actual run time of 4:01, not 3:58 as stated on the label.
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 15 October 2023 at 6:16pm
BTW, the original version of this song was recorded as an LP track by Olivia Newton-John in the 80s.
"Can't We Talk It Over In Bed" is on Olivia's The Rumour LP (and later on the Gold 2CD "hits" compilation). Grayson's cover is a good example of blue-eyed soul.
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Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
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Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 16 October 2023 at 5:32am
Olivia's version was also commercially released as a
single as well, but after checking Wikipedia, it looks as
though it didn't chart anywhere. There was also a video
for the song.
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Dan In Philly
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Posted By: music4life75
Date Posted: 16 October 2023 at 5:50am
It was the follow-up to “The Rumour.” Sadly, it didn’t chart but I thought it
was a good song.
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 16 October 2023 at 12:37pm
I had no idea Olivia's original was released as a 45 back
in 1988. Thanks for that info everyone.
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Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
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Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 24 October 2023 at 6:32pm
Olivia's version spent a few weeks struggling near the
bottom of R&R's AC "Significant Action" listing. For an
artist who scored ten AC #1's including a still record
seven consecutively, I was amazed Olivia could not get
more traction with this song at AC. Although her previous
single, "The Rumour," was not the comeback she hoped for,
she did reach the AC Top 10 just two years earlier with
her David Foster duet, "The Best Of Me." And, more
established pop artists like Olivia could still find
consistent Top 20 success at AC in the late 80's. Was it
Olivia and/or the song radio rejected? If the latter, why
was un unknown like Grayson Hugh able to score a Top 40
pop and AC hit with this less than a year later? Was
radio turned off by the more "naughty" title of Olivia's
version? After "Soul Kiss" and its questionable lyrics
and album artwork, I wonder if radio just dismissed this
as Olivia trying too hard again to be provocative.
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Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 25 October 2023 at 9:24am
I have an old radio station copy of a vinyl set of a Casey's Top 40 broadcast that includes "Talk it Over". What a great record! Anyone here knowledgeable in where the Casey's
Top 40 team used as a source?
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https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh!
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