"I.G.Y." - Donald Fagen
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Topic: "I.G.Y." - Donald Fagen
Posted By: sriv94
Subject: "I.G.Y." - Donald Fagen
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 1:56pm
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Another question--while perusing eBay I was looking at Donald Fagen's "I.G.Y." One pressing (which appears to be a U.S. release) runs 4:58, according to the label. Another pressing (Canada pressing) was a promo release that runs 5:23.
Are these edits straight fades of the 6:02 LP version, or is there more to it than that? Doug |
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 14 October 2005 at 2:53pm
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donald fagen's hit "i.g.y. (what a beautiful world)" issued in the usa in 1982 on warner 29900 is simply an early fade of the cd/lp version from "the nightfly" issued on warner 23696 which fades out to run 5:20 even though the label states the run time as 4:56......... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 8:42am
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Thanks, Ed!
Doug |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 30 June 2007 at 9:27am
| I also just recently created the early fade of Donald Fagen's "I.G.Y.," but I noticed that the database says "LP version." It would probably be more accurate to say "LP length." |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 03 July 2007 at 11:04pm
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Pat:
You might also want to note in the database that commercial 45 copies of "I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World)" run 5:20, not 4:56 as stated on the record label. |
Posted By: Ringmaster_D
Date Posted: 21 September 2017 at 5:03pm
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Another fade question... can someone provide the
starting point of the fade? |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 21 September 2017 at 7:59pm
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Fade is audible around the (5:00) mark. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 21 September 2017 at 9:20pm
| 5:00-5:17 is the fade time on the recreation I have. |
Posted By: Ringmaster_D
Date Posted: 22 September 2017 at 6:29am
| Thanks guys. |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 20 April 2019 at 8:59pm
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I love this song and the full LP length doesn't seem too long... but I'm surprised, for all the editing done in the era, that they didn't chop the beginning, and maybe most of the instrumental segments between verses.
Chances are they could have taken that 5:20 down to 3:30... Wonder if more stations would have played it? Would it have been a bigger hit? (BTW, the SACD really is a delight to hear! Spectacular sound quality.) ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 21 April 2019 at 2:11pm
It hit #6 in Radio & Records and #3 in the Gavin Report, so it got plenty of airplay. Another case of a 1982 hit that didn't get its due in Billboard. |
NightAire wrote:Posted By: Loveland
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 8:10pm
I disagree. The single didn't sell. The Hot 100 chart should've always been based on sales alone, without the inclusion of airplay. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 7:16am
While I don't have access to sales info on that song you do make a good point. R&R's charts were strictly airplay from their reporters, I presume the same goes for Gavin (generally smaller market stations who didn't qualify for R&R reporter status), so since sales were factored in BB's charts it makes sense it wouldn't have charted as high if it was mostly a turntable hit. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 1:13pm
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There was something going on with Billboard in the
1982/1983 time frame. There are just way too many songs that made the Top 10 (or even Top 5) in R&R that didn't make the Top 20 (or even Top 40) in Billboard. That can't all be attributed to poor sales numbers. Even at the time, I found it weird that songs like "Gypsy" by Fleetwood Mac and "It's Raining Again" by Supertramp were falling short of the Top 10 in Billboard. After my week- by-week research on the R&R charts, I can say that the R&R and Billboard charts were always pretty close in the other eras, with much less glaring differences than existed in 1982/83. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 1:18pm
I totally disagree with that statement. As a Top 40 fan growing up, I couldn't afford to buy all the singles I wanted, but I could hear them on the radio. The two (sales and airplay) have always gone hand-in-hand and I thought it was cool that Billboard had a formula that combined the two into one definitive chart. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 6:20pm
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Paul, I fully agree. The Hot 100 has always been a chart that shows
song popularity relative to other songs for a given week. Popularity does not equal sales alone. Today it's mostly streaming and airplay. I've always been totally comfortable with this formula. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 2:18pm
The charts of 1982-83 were strange to say the least. Songs were spending multiple weeks at their peak position then dropping out of sight very quickly. Large portions of the top 40 remained static from week to week making it hard for songs below them to move up. This has been discussed a fair bit on other forums, but a lot of this had to do with the chart rules at the time concerning bullets (or stars and superstars, as Billboard used back then) – that songs had to first lose their stars before failing down the chart. Do you think the chart director just got lazy around this time and lost interest? He’d been doing it for close to 10 years by this point. There has to be some reason for this weird anomaly. In April 1983 he was either fired (most likely) or left on his own (depending on which story you believe) and the charts returned to normal. |