elo "telephone line"
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Topic: elo "telephone line"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: elo "telephone line"
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 7:09pm
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anyone know if the 45 version is avaialble on cd.........allmusic states that a cd titled "a year in your life 1977" contains a 4:03 version.........i'm hoping this cd contains the 3:57 45 version..........anybody know???????? ------------- edtop40 |
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 25 October 2005 at 9:45pm
| I was hoping that, too, but Pat's database, before it went down, listed it as the full-length 4:30 (or thereabouts) LP Version. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 27 October 2005 at 8:14am
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AllMusic has a few mistakes like that. The Rock On 1981 CD's jacket states that LRB's "The Night Owls" runs 3:45 (the Excelsior version), and AllMusic took that as gospel (and of course, was wrong). The entry was corrected for the Madacy 1996 version.
So there are a number of occasions where they'll use what's on the CD jacket and be wrong (but not always). Turning this back to "Telephone Line," the 45 removes the sound effects at the top and fades a bit earlier than the LP--is that correct, or is there another edit or two involved? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 1:39pm
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No, that's correct. The only sound effect left at the beginning is the
last little synthesizer cascade before the first notes of the song. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 2:30pm
Great. And the running time is (3:57), yes? (Just making sure run time matches with printed label time.) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Paul Esch wrote:Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 3:55pm
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Yes, that's the correct time. And, by the way, if you want to get the
45 version of "Evil Woman," get the version off of Rhino's Like Omigod! The 80's Pop Culture Box and edit out the line "I came a-runnin' every time you cried" in the last verse, and voila! |
Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 6:28pm
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??????Evil Woman was from 1976 and there are no ELO songs on the Omigod! The 80's Pop Culture Box. ------------- Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Moderator |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 6:37pm
I think Paul meant the Have A Nice Decade 1970s box, which does have an edit of "Evil Woman" (although as he said, it's not the 45 because they made one editing error). ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 6:21am
| Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 15 April 2008 at 3:43pm
| I have just timed my commercial 45, and, contrary to info appearing earlier in this thread, my 45 has a listed time of (3:57), but an actual time of (4:00). My 45, purchased in 1977, has green vinyl, and features deadwax of "UAST-17907-E". |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 16 April 2008 at 4:45am
| If I recall the version of "Evil Woman" (and all issues of the alleged single edit on cd) are an incorrect edit. The database states, "neither the LP or 45 version" for the "Have a Nice Day" box. If you start a thread on "Evil Woman" I'm sure that somebody will recall the difference, I forget what it is. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 1:27pm
Actually, this is not quite right. I just verified that it has an edit near the end, rather than fading early. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 5:14pm
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The first DTMF touchtones are edited on the single, it has an edit on the last verse and it's faded early. My Green vinyl 45 is timed out at 4:00 on United Artists and is excellent Stereo. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 6:46pm
Hmmm, that's not what I'm hearing on the single dub I have. The intro starts as others have described above; however I did not detect an edit on the last verse. Also, the fade of the single is the same audio as the fade of the LP. If you listen to the last chorus on both, pay attention to the strings. That is a giveaway that it's an edit and not an early fade. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 22 October 2010 at 7:00pm
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Dug out my Green vinyl 45 and my A New World Record LP on United Artists. I checked the phasing on my system and found an anomaly. Fixed it and the LP and 45 fade exact. So we have the DTMF touch tones and an brief edit in the last verse as the official differences here. Both pressings are first runs purchased new in 1977. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 05 November 2010 at 9:59pm
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Telephone Line: Unless you get a vinyl dub on CD,
it does not exist on CD. Here's the explanation from Kevin Gray, thee guy who cut the album and single in 1977. http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php? t=19248&highlight=telephone+line
Living Thing: As far as I know, the actual 45 edit does not appear on CD. I made a nice needledrop of the 45. ------------- |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 05 November 2010 at 11:18pm
Grant, thanks for re-posting Kevin's notes. Very interesting! I still have a copy of that http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/ELO-ANewWorldRecordacetateside1.jpg - Artisan acetate and will give it a listen. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 06 November 2010 at 10:30am
| Very interesting! Thanks for posting, this, Grant. So if I'm understanding correctly, there is a tape for the single version, but it's actually a disc dub of the acetate? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 November 2010 at 12:48pm
I don't think that's exactly what he was saying, and I think Grant is also mistaken. The single is an edit of the LP version; however, the LP version on all sources was "mastered" as it was cut, with the telephone effect on the opening vocals. "We made a tape copy and everything of a reissue nature has been cut from that dub." I took this to mean that they also made a tape copy in the same way they made the lacquers, which is what is used on all reissues of the LP/CD copies. That means original pressings of the LP will vary slightly on the intro, since the synchronizing of the two sources was done in real time while cutting each lacquer. I've never heard any version of "Telephone Line" that does not have the telephone effect on the opening vocal, which is apparently how it exists on the master tape. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 06 November 2010 at 2:13pm
| Aaron, I also came away with the same interpretation that you did, in that the tape had been made in the same manner as the lacquers and acetates. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 07 November 2010 at 7:41am
Well, what I posted was nothing I wrote. That quote was all Kevin Gray, they guy who cut the records. ------------- |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 November 2010 at 9:45am
I do appreciate you posting the quote from Kevin; I just wanted to clarify that what he was saying did not mean you couldn't create the single from the LP. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 07 November 2010 at 7:41pm
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Yes, you could edit the 45 version from the LP. No mix differences on this one! ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 07 July 2016 at 4:46pm
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Bumping for my own benefit. And for yours too. :) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 01 January 2022 at 4:16pm
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In addition to removing the mock Touch-Tones at the beginning and the repeat of the last chorus, the 45 of "Telephone Line" does have a slight early fade, as it fades out on "I'm living in twi..." instead of completing the phrase.
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