Paul McCartney - Press
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Topic: Paul McCartney - Press
Posted By: eriejwg
Subject: Paul McCartney - Press
Date Posted: 03 July 2009 at 11:30am
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Was doing some Paul McCartney research today and noticed that commercial 45's list the 3:35 version of "Press" as the Video Edit. I'd imagine DJ 45's are the same.
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Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 03 July 2009 at 3:11pm
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I have the DJ 12" and it also includes the Video Edit. Not sure why it is called the Video Edit though. The actual video used the LP version as far as I can tell (look for it on You Tube). The 3:35 version contains a couple of edits.
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Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 06 July 2009 at 4:43pm
There were two DJ copies. One was simply labelled P-B-5597, which featured "Press" (Video Edit) on both sides in stereo with a label time of 3:35. The "P" before a record number usually meant it was the same thing as the stock 45, just a promotional copy.
The other DJ copy is labelled 7-PRO-9765 Press (Edited Version) (3:35) and 7-PRO-9766 Press (4:07). Capitol usually used the PRO designation to note that it was different than the stock 45, however both the "Video Edit" and the "Edited Version" note a matrix on the label of X100396 so those are probable the same. The 4:07 version has a matrix of X100396A. I assume that the 4:07 option was released second.
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Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 8:38am
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Can the LP version be edited to match the Video version and the 45 version?
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Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 9:16am
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Yes (unless there are some suble mix differences that I'm not hearing)
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 10 August 2021 at 1:34pm
Just in case someone was looking for it.... The single
version of 'Press' (Video Edit) 3:35, is available on a
Various Artist CD out
of Germany called 'International Pop Gold' (EMI CDP 564-7
46455-2). -Bill.
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Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 10 August 2021 at 5:19pm
Fairly certain that the single edit is what appears on the
4 disc "Pure McCartney" compilation set?
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 10 August 2021 at 6:52pm
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According to Pat's database, it shows 4:44 (LP Version). -Bill.
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Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 10 October 2021 at 6:59am
I've been digging into this one a little bit, and it seems that the original UK single version of "Press" is a mix by Hugh Paghdam. The full mix runs about 4:20 and was released on a 10" single, and the UK 45 is
said to be an early fade of this mix, running about 3:55. According to Discogs, there was an early CD pressing of the album that contained Hugh's mix (running 4:23), but was quickly replaced on later pressings
with the alternate "Video Soundtrack" (4:42) that we today know as the common LP/CD album version. I will be trying to track this pressing down, but lucking into the correct item should be as easy as finding the
proverbial needle in a haystack, as the track lengths were not printed on the original back cover, etc. It seems the switch was made with no indication in the booklet or on the CD itself.
Anyway, after listening around and looking at the timeline, my working theory is that:
• Original 4:20 Hugh Paghdam mix was intended to be the official album version
• Early 3:55 fade on UK 45 was intended to be the "hit" mix
• Video was set to a 4:42 remix by Bert Nevins & Steve Forward, which was then released on UK & US 12" singles
• A new 3:35 edit of this second mix (labeled "Video Edit") was released on 45 and became the "hit" version in both regions
• (Rich and Aaron confirmed below the existence of yet another, longer 4:06 edit of the second mix on the A-side of the U.S. Promo 45. This variation does not appear to have been released commercially.)
• LP's and CD's were subsequently reissued with the Video Soundtrack 12" version replacing Hugh's original mix so that if a buyer picked up the album based on hearing the 45 version, they would be getting a longer
version of the familiar mix instead of a completely alien (to them) version
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 12 October 2021 at 6:11pm
Eternal,
There is a 4:07 on the US 7 Inch Promo Side A. It is not labeled on discogs, any idea what it is?
https://www.discogs.com/release/9655042-Paul-McCartney-Press - https://www.discogs.com/release/9655042-Paul-McCartney-Press
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Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 13 October 2021 at 6:56am
I wish I knew!
I feel like it's likely an early fade of the Padgham mix, just maybe not faded quite as early as the UK 45. But, the annoying thing that we can't solve for is that it could also technically be either an alternate edit or
early fade of the more common "Video" mix.
Does anyone have more specific details on the 4:07 side of the U.S. promo?
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 October 2021 at 9:33am
I have the promo 45. The 4:07 side is a longer edit of the video mix. It has one edit and an early fade, making the actual run time 4:06. The edit removes 3:47 to 4:06, editing on the downbeat. After making the edit, the fade starts at "feeling stressed" at 3:56 and fades completely out by 4:06. The other side of the promo 45 labeled "Edited Version" (3:35) is, as expected, the same as the US stock 45.
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Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 13 October 2021 at 11:34am
Aaron! Always keeping me out of trouble. Thanks. Gonna work on this one
when I have some time tonight. The biggest thing I dislike about the "Video
Edit" is how choppy it is. Perhaps the longer edit will be a smoother listen.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 13 October 2021 at 12:38pm
Glad to help!
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