"Heaven" - Bryan Adams
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Topic: "Heaven" - Bryan Adams
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: "Heaven" - Bryan Adams
Date Posted: 24 July 2009 at 5:27am
| Just wanted to note that Bryan Adams' "Heaven" fades out :07 sooner on the Like, Omigod! The '80$ Pop Culture Box (Totally) CD set (Rhino 78239) than on the 45 and LP. |
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Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 2:35pm
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I recently learned this song was originally written for, and released on, the soundtrack to the 1983 movie A Night In Heaven. Not having the soundtrack, I only heard it as it played during the movie. To my ears it sounds like the same version that later became a #1 hit in 1985.
Can someone confirm there are no differences. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 12:30am
| New question about this song: Has the live B-side version of "Heaven" on this single ever appeared on CD? |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 11:07am
| I bought the soundtrack to a night in heaven when I was a kid just to get that song after the original video was played on MTV. They actually made a DIFFERENT video when the song became a hit--but yes, as far as my ears could always tell, it's the same exact version. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 12:59pm
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<threadcrap>
The "A Night In Heaven" soundtrack also has the original version of "Obsession" (later covered by Animotion), as done by Michael Des Barres and Holly Knight. Oddly, enough Animotion's other big hit, "Room To Move", was also a remake (done originally by Climie Fisher). </threadcrap> |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 27 March 2012 at 3:28am
| This song got quite a bit of Top 40 airplay in early 1984 as an album cut from the movie soundtrack. In fact, it got as high as #2 on both of my hometown Top 40 stations (KDWB and WLOL) in March of 1984. It then became a #1 national hit when it was released as a proper single in 1985. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 27 March 2012 at 11:31pm
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Extremely interesting little factoid, there, Mr. Haney! I never knew anything
of it. And, upon further examination (you know what I mean, and I'll go sort that all out ASAP!), there were also a good many other Top 40 markets who similarly charted "Heaven" as an LP cut in '84. Paul, if you happen to know of/stumble upon any other such examples of this "pre-hit-45, LP cut airplay" in your travels, please share. I believe them to be quite noteworthy. :) |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 28 March 2012 at 5:56am
| Even though Boston had 3 full-market signal CHRs in 1984 (WZOU, WHTT & Kiss 108), I don't recall any of them playing this song prior to it being a single. |
Posted By: musicmanatl
Date Posted: 12 April 2012 at 8:01pm
| WGCL-FM (G98) in Cleveland also played "Heaven" in 1984 from the soundtrack album. I definitely remember hearing it early, because when I got the LP when it came out, I knew the song already. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 4:27am
| To answer Brian's question, the only place I've seen the "B" side "Diana" on CD is on a CD 3" single. It may be on other CDs but that's the only place I've seen it. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 10:32am
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To Bill Cahill:
I believe Brian was asking about the US b-side of the 45 of "Heaven" (both promo & commercial copies). That was "Heaven 'live'". The UK b-side of "Heaven" was "Diana" (non-lp in the US). Andy |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 1:02pm
Yes, Andrew is correct. I was asking about the US B-side, the live version of "Heaven," recorded at the Hollywood Palladium on Feb. 1, 1985. |
AndrewChouffi wrote:Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 8:46pm
| Yeah you're right, I confused the CD 3 I have with a 12 inch vinyl UK import that features Heaven, Heaven Live, and Diana. The CD3 actually has Run To You with Diana, not even Heaven. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 19 April 2012 at 6:13pm
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You can listen to the b-side/live version of "Heaven" here:
www.the80sman.com/bryan-adams-heaven-live-version-1984/ ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 7:20am
Thanks. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 02 May 2014 at 12:55pm
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Brian, I just noticed that the live version of "Heaven" was also part of the
promo 12" single we were sent (A&M SP 17318): Here are its full contents: Side One: 1-Heaven (LP Version) (listed 4:03) Side Two: 1-Heaven "Live" (listed 4:00) 2-(another song, "Kids Wanna Rock" Live (listed 3:14)) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 May 2014 at 10:58pm
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Hearing the "Live" version of "Heaven" just took me back to 1985, when I would play the b-side of my 45 as a kid. I probably haven't heard it since, until just now.
The promo 12" copy that Jim describes above has "Heaven" and "Kids Wanna Rock" separated only by about 3 or 4 seconds of audience applause. "Heaven" does not fade out on the 12" like it does on the 45. I will now go pull out my stock copy of the 45 to see if there is additional audience applause on the fade out, or if the 12" copy can be faded to match. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 May 2014 at 11:07pm
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As suspected, the 45 has an additional :09 seconds of audience applause on the fadeout that is not heard on the promo 12" "Live" version. So, to summarize:
The promo 12" version of "Heaven" (Live) runs 4:02 from the audience fade in until very start of "Kids Wanna Rock." The stock 45 "Live" B-side has a listed time of 4:13 but runs 4:11. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 07 July 2020 at 6:33am
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I also have been wanting to get the live B-Side of "Heaven" for a long time. I remember that it was played at least once on "American Top 40" during its chart run and that was the first time I heard it. I thought it might have been included on his "Live! Live! Live!" album, but according to Wikipedia, the version on there was recorded in 1988 in Belgium, whereas the live B-Side was recorded at the Hollywood Palladium on February 1, 1985. So I guess it's safe to assume the live B-Side version has never appeared on CD. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: whyaduck
Date Posted: 02 August 2020 at 5:54pm
Hi, Diana appears on the 1988 Japan issued Hits On Fire Catalog: D50Y Hits On Fire also has a live version of Heaven that to me seems like a different version than on "Live, Live, Live". On Hit's the track is 4:03 and the music stops approximately at 3:55/3:56. Live, Live, Live the track is 4:16 and the music stops around 4:06/4:07. Music starts on both versions at about :01/:02 To me they appear to be different performances. I don't know if the Hits version is the Heaven b-side or not. If links to fair usage samples are permitted to be posted here I'll be glad to do so. Just let me know which 25-30 second of the track is desired. Hit's also contain a Live "Kid's Want To Rock" that to me seems rather different from Live,Live,Live. Again let me know about samples. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 03 August 2020 at 6:21am
Thanks for that information! The release date for "Hits On Fire" as per Discogs is January 21, 1988 and the "Live, Live, Live" album as per Wikipedia was recorded in Belgium on July 3 1988. So if the dates are correct, the versions of "Heaven" couldn't be the same on both discs. The Wiki page for "Hits On Fire" also has a notation of "Disc 2 features hit singles from the albums Cuts Like a Knife and Reckless, with the addition of three songs from 12" singles issued in 1985. These were not issued on CD outside Japan." I assume the 3 songs they're referring to are "Diana" and the Live Versions of "Heaven" and "Kids Wanna Rock". All 3 are on the "Bryan Adams Special Mini Album" listed on Discogs that was released in Japan in 1985. (Although the statement about "Diana" not being issued on CD outside Japan would be incorrect, as it's already been mentioned that it appears on a US 3" CD Single). There is a video on YouTube specifically labelled as "Heaven (Live At The Palladium, Los Angeles, 1985)" that seems to match what you said about the music starting at about 2 seconds in. However, the music in the video seems to end at 3:52 with an additional 3 seconds of applause before completely fading out. Is that what you meant by the music stopping at 3:55/3:56? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFwd8xFHO3U - Bryan Adams - Heaven (Live At The Palladium, Los Angeles, 1985) Also, Discogs doesn't list the running times for any of the songs on "Hits On Fire". Do you know offhand if any of the songs on Disc 2 are Single Versions? I know "Somebody" and "One Night Love Affair" have Single Versions and I believe "Cuts Like A Knife" also has a shorter Single Version and an even shorter promo version. I didn't realize at first that Disc 1 is really the "Into The Fire" album. Thanks again for the info, I'll probably be ordering this compilation. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: whyaduck
Date Posted: 03 August 2020 at 7:25pm
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"However, the music in the video seems to end at 3:52 with an additional 3 seconds of applause before completely fading out. Is that what you meant by the music stopping at 3:55/3:56?"
The last note extends to 3:55, applause fades until 4:02 "Somebody" and "One Night Love Affair" have Single Versions" Both times match that of their Reckless Album counterparts. "Cuts Like A Knife" is the LP version. I have both the CD3 and 5" Run To You CD single, both are the same except for the size. Was the 5" for the USA market? I also have "Diana" on the 2012 Japan Reckless SHM-CD which also includes "Christmas Time" and "Reggae Christmas". I think the SHM-CD has excellent old style CD sound, not modern and loud as one might expect from a 2012 CD, but of course sound quality is a personal preference. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 04 August 2020 at 12:42pm
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[QUOTE=whyaduck] The last note
extends to 3:55, applause fades until 4:02 /QUOTE] Thanks for that info. If it fades out at 4:02, it must not be the correct 45 version, as Aaron mentioned earlier in the thread that the Live B-Side runs 4:11 on the 45. I suppose it could still be the same performance, but maybe just faded about 9 or 10 seconds earlier than the 45. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 August 2020 at 8:37pm
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Dan, if you decide to buy that Japanese CD, would you mind sending me the file? I have a couple mint copies of the 45, and I can easily attach the ending to a good sounding CD source. The 12" single does, indeed, contain the same recording, but instead of leaving 15 seconds of audience applause, it segues into "Kids Wanna Rock" much sooner. That's the only difference between it and the B-side of the 45. It seems the Japanese CD simply fades out to the exact point where "Kids Wanna Rock" starts on the 12". ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 05 August 2020 at 8:13am
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I'll definitely let you know when I order it, Aaron. That's what I suspected, that the 12" and "Hits On Fire" versions were the same except for the segue into "Kids Wanna Rock".
Now I'm curious as to why they let the applause go longer on the 45 when in theory they could have just faded it earlier. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 August 2020 at 10:20am
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The outro applause on the 45 isn't overly long. It starts to fade a couple seconds after the last note concludes. I suppose, though, that it felt too long to leave the additional applause when seguing the two songs together. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 06 August 2020 at 2:53am
| Very interesting! I had no idea about "Hits on Fire." |