Hall & Oates - All-Time Greatest Hits
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Topic: Hall & Oates - All-Time Greatest Hits
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: Hall & Oates - All-Time Greatest Hits
Date Posted: 20 November 2005 at 9:30pm
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I was visiting the Time-Life website and noticed it has for sale a Hall & Oates best-of compilation I believe is sold exclusively through the website called All-Time Greatest Hits. Yeah, I know... the marketplace has become flooded with Hall & Oates compilations in recent years. But what's intriguing about this set is many of the hits on it look like they might be the 45 versions and lengths, many of which have never been issued before on CD! Take a look at the run times listed for the following tracks:
"Wait for Me" - 3:43 (LP version is 4:05) "How Does It Feel to Be Back" - 4:15 (LP length - 4:34) "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" - 4:09 (LP length - 4:35) "Adult Education" - 4:01 (LP version - 5:23) "Method of Modern Love" - 4:17 (LP version - 5:33) "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid" - 4:28 (LP version - 5:25) "Possession Obsession" - 4:06 (LP version - 4:34) The website doesn't provide a catalog number for this 3-disc set, but you can view the contents here: http://www.timelife.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=2635 Does anyone have this Hall & Oates All-Time Greatest Hits CD set and, if so, can you confirm if the songs listed above are indeed the 45 versions? |
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 21 November 2005 at 1:46am
| I've been looking for the single version of "I Don't Wanna Lose You" and I checked the version on this 3 CD set, and I can confirm it's the album version. With the other potential single versions on the set, I was hoping this one would be the single, but it's still has never made a CD anywhere in the world. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 12:52pm
| The 45 version of "Method" is (4:00) & the 45 version of "Some Things" is (4:02), so those two are either incorrect or have the wrong run times listed. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 7:39pm
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Ah... Thanks for pointing that info out, Aaron. I forgot to mention those actual 45 times in my original post.
I should also mention that I have most of the 45 edits of Hall & Oates' Top 40 hits on CD, thanks to Aaron who replicated them on his digital editing software. Still, it's always nice to see when record labels themselves finally get around to releasing previously unavailable single versions on CD. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 November 2005 at 11:10pm
| By the way, I spoke with Edtop40 tonight about Hall & Oates' "Wait for Me". He informs me the commercial 45 runs 3:37 and is an early fade of the LP length running 4:05. The 45 label states a run time of 3:40. Currently, there is no 45/LP length distinction for this song in the database. |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 7:39am
Actually, that H&O collection is available at retail (it comes in one of those old-style 6"x12" cardboard longboxes). Although a paid membership is required to shop there, many of those CD collections found on the Time-Life web site are carried at BJ's Wholesale Club, and I assume their main competitors as well, namely Costco and Sam's Club. My local BJ's has carried that H&O collection in the past, and just yesterday, I returned there to see if they still had any on the shelf, but alas, it appears they're currently sold out. I'd looked at that 3-CD H&O collection several times, but like you said, because the market has been flooded w/ new ones on them lately, I always passed on that one. I've bought similar Time-Life collections in the past, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the hits you named above are indeed the single versions that are otherwise unavailable elsewhere... And in the event other fans weren't aware of it, there's also another excellent U.S. H&O collection available only through mail order, simply titled "Greatest Hits". It's a 2-CD set w/ 32 tracks, and came out in the late '90s. (At the time, it was by far the best domestic H&O collection ever released.) It was sold through Collectors' Choice Music (official web site: www.ccmusic.com), although I just checked, and it appears the H&O collection I'm referring to is no longer available. I don't have my copy next to me here at this time, but I bought "Greatest Hits" through them (on both CD and cassette) in 1998. And although I generally don't collect vinyl 45s (in order to compare), again, it wouldn't surprise me if "Greatest Hits" has some single versions unavailable elsewhere... |
Todd Ireland wrote:Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 24 August 2008 at 3:51pm
| Did anyone ever bite who would be able to tell us which versions appear on 36 All Time Greatest Hits release? |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 24 August 2008 at 9:19pm
Aaron seems like an interesting and talented fellow when it comes to editing - as an aside, I think I should pay him to recreate all of my favourite radio edits and I will take them to a record cutting plant and make 12" singles from them (I know this is a CD board, but CDs are the musical equivalent of ashtrays....lol (sorry I have nothing to say nice about CDs, as I'm an analog guy through and through. Back to the topic, Aaron submitted me a "demonstration" of Peter Gabriel's "Sledgehammer" and it was right on the money. I consider myself a very good editor, but I think I have to step aside when it comes to Aaron. I tend to take liberties when I recreate edits, but he gets them all in the right spots. Very talented he is. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 3:22pm
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Jody, your words are very kind. Thank you!
I wish I were more active on this board as of late, but I've had a lot of major things going on. For those interested, my wife and I are in the middle of building a house, we're expecting a baby in February, and I'm searching for a new job in the Dallas area. The company I work for will be relocating to Burbank, California, and I'd rather not move to that area. (No offense, Brian :]) Those three things are keeping me busier than I'd like to be! |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 5:12pm
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it's always helpful to have the actual vinyl 45 to get the edits correct......and, jody, i will agree aaron is THE best...no offense intended to paul, john and doug.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 5:58pm
| Having teamed with Aaron on editing projects, I can concur that his work is incredible! |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 6:08pm
None taken on my part; there aren't many in Aaron's league. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 6:41pm
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Ed, no offense taken here either.
Hey, I'm a 'newbie' when it comes to Adobe Audition, only having used it for a year, thus far. Aaron I think has used it for 10 years, probably back to its Cool Edit Pro days. And, I also highly respect Paul, Doug and the other digital editors that get it right every time. I will say I amaze myself sometimes with my finished product. My stereo 45 recreation of Steely Dan's "Do It Again" got some nice compliments. :) |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 6:42pm
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My next project is to verify 45 length fades with someone here, if you'd like to help. I need to go through my library and make sure I have the fades in the right spot.
Proper fading seems to be my weakness. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 August 2008 at 11:47pm
Thank you for all the nice comments! I think we all bring unique skills and expertise to this board, and I'm proud to say that mine is in the editing department. Todd (Paul) and Brian also have incredible editing abilities when it comes to matching the 45's exactly. Those guys, along with Doug, John, Jim, Ed, Gordon, and many others on this board have far more knowledge of top 40 music than I do, though. Honestly, I didn't know half as many songs before networking with all of you. You have all helped to exapnd my music awareness a great deal. I have yet to see another message board that brings both great information and a true sense of teamwork as I've seen here. I really enjoy the positivity, and I'll keep trying to contribute as much as I can in the busy months ahead. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 28 August 2008 at 4:11am
Not to brag at all (this is seriously meant as an honest assessment of my own abilities) but I will concur with you on amazing myself, but I have to admit I've been futzing with open-reel editing since I was a youngster (and I have worked small-market radio production, so digital editing just gives me so much more ease. Although I cannot say that I'm an authentic editor (true to the 45), I do very well creating my own edits. I would have loved to edit radio singles. I think it is an art to take something, make it sound shorter and concise, but maintain the impression, message and feel of the original. As for Aaron's comments, I agree it is wonderful to somehow be part of a community that shares with each other. Well all get a chance to pat others on the back, and also to boast about ourselves and our own abilities (sorry for doing that just now ... lol). I think that our mutual respect for each other's abilities and knowledge is what makes something like this forum an addictive read. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 07 April 2015 at 4:23pm
| So, back on topic, anyone in the past 10 years manage to hear the versions included on this compilation? :D |
Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 02 December 2018 at 8:57pm
| Is the 45 version of Say It Isn't So an edit or just an early fade? |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 6:36am
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Regarding the "All-Time Greatest Hits" compilation, I
believe the version of "Method Of Modern Love" that appears on it is the Promo 45 Version, aka "Remixed Edited Version". I'm still trying to figure out where the 4:27 edit of "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid" came from. The commercial 45 runs a few seconds over 4 minutes, and the one on ATGH is closer to 4 1/2 minutes. I looked up the various single configurations of the song on Discogs, and so far none of them show a 4:27 running time.
Not 100% sure, but I believe it's an early fade and appears on the Japanese "Best Of" compilation. |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 8:11am
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Can anyone confirm 100% that the “Remixed Edited Version” of MOML
indeed appears on this comp.? I bought this track from the recent ‘Single Mixes’ digital release, and it sounds a bit fuzzy, as if a higher generation tape source was used. Would love to get my hands on the version from ATGH if it is this same mix, to see if it sounds any cleaner. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 8:39am
I can't confirm 100%, but the ATGH version does have the same intro and about the same running time as the Promo/Remixed 45. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 8:41am
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By the way, I think the exact title of this comp may
actually be, "36 All-Time Greatest Hits". |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 8:44am
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Great— To my knowledge, there was only one single (7”) length remix,
so it’s a high likelihood. Thanks for the info.! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 11:10am
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The database says "36 All Time Greatest Hits" contains the promo 45 version of "Method Of Modern Love." ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 1:48pm
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Thanks Aaron! I only wish it had the promo 45 remix of “One on One”
as well. Those 2018 digital comps filled in a lot of holes, but that one sadly remains missing. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 December 2019 at 2:39pm
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Check your email! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 19 December 2019 at 8:22pm
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The promo edit of "One On One" just like it more than
the 45 or LP! Funny how that works so often for alot of us! |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 02 January 2020 at 10:46am
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Was looking at some of my VA compilation CD's and came across one called "Soul Sensation" which appears to be from England. It has a version of "Method Of
Modern Love" that runs about 3:05. It appears to be the same as the Remixed/Promo 45 version, just faded early. Don't think it was the UK Single Version, as Discogs lists it at 3:58. There's also a version of Patti Labelle's "If You Asked Me To" running about 3:32 which also appears to be an early fade and not a Single Version that was released anywhere. I assume these were early fades done to fit as many songs as possible on one disc. |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 02 January 2020 at 4:52pm
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Yuck. Fading a song 10 secs early I can see (though it’s not preferred),
but 3:05 is just egregious. |
Posted By: Gem80s
Date Posted: 03 January 2020 at 1:13pm
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There is a cd with a 4:15 version of Method Of Modern Love
witch mathe the remix edit version. https://www.discogs.com/Various-Rock-In-The- USA/release/1087913 |
Posted By: peterpyser
Date Posted: 09 January 2020 at 2:30am
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The remix/edit version of 'Method Of Modern Love' is on
the digital release 'Single Mixes' available in redbook quality on most digital stores. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 January 2020 at 9:45am
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Peter,
Thanks for the tip about the 'Single Mixes' collection. It's on Amazon music. Wonder if it's worthy of inclusion in Pat's database? And, welcome to the forum! ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: peterpyser
Date Posted: 09 January 2020 at 3:47pm
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Many thanks for your kind welcome John!!
I've been lurking for a couple of years, and finally had the chance to join this great forum recently. |