backstreet boys "as long as you love me"
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Topic: backstreet boys "as long as you love me"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: backstreet boys "as long as you love me"
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 5:29pm
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although not in the db because of it's airplay only status, i do have a promo cd single for the backstreet song "as long as you love me" issued as jive jdj-42482-2 and it contains 2 tracks as listed below
1-radio mix (3:32) 2-instrumental (3:30) this info s/b added to the db... i also have an import cd single for the song as well, issued as jive cd 434/int:0517232 and contains the below tracks 1-as long as you love me (radio version) (3:32) 2-quit playing games (with my heart) (e-smoove vocal mix) (6:48) 3-everybody (backstreet's back) (funked up mix) (7:13) 4-every time i close my eyes (3:55) ------------- edtop40 |
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 22 January 2010 at 8:30am
| Is the radio version (3:32) any different from the radio mix (3:32)? There was a version of this song I heard on the radio, that I could not track down, which had some alternate vocals and maybe even a slight mix difference. I have an import CD single of this but it's not on there either. Does anyone know about an alternate version of this on any CDs? |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 22 January 2010 at 4:39pm
I can't speak to these specific releases, but I have an early copy of the "Backstreet Boys" album with a different track lineup and some different mixes. This has a red cover instead of the popular light color and, I believe, was a Canadian pressing. On this disc, "As Long As You Love Me" sounds similar except there are no vocals over the intro. (Compare to about 0:07 on the common radio mixes.) I don't think I've ever heard this version elsewhere. |
EdisonLite wrote:Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 5:40pm
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I, too, have a red, early album of "Backstreet Boys" (mine's not Canadian but European, 1996) and it doesn't contain this song at all. I also have an early version of their 2nd European album (titled "Backstreet's Back")- which has the same album cover as the 1st US album - and that album (which is somewhat a compilation of the 1st two European albums) does have "As Long As You Love Me". Both my European version and the American album version have the vocals "as long as you love me" at 0:07.
Other than the difference of vocals in the intro at 0:07 (on the Canadian version), has anyone determined if there are any other differences between the early versions, the regular US album version, and the version that the import CD singles refer to as "radio version" and "radio mix"? Sometimes singles will just refer to a version as "radio version" to distinguish it from the extended mixes on the single (or elsewhere), when in reality, it's no different than the album version. That way of thinking for labeling CD singles can make it very difficult to sort through what are actually unique versions and what are not. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 November 2014 at 1:20am
| Update: I A-B'd the album version with the "radio version" on my import CD single. I hear no difference. |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 28 December 2014 at 2:05pm
I just stumbled upon my copy of the red album (Jive Canada 41598), and it turns out my recollection was wrong: like EdisonLite's copy, mine does not have this song. There was definitely a mysterious version without the lyrics at :07 -- I remember my station at the time initially aired that version, but it was via cart so I have no idea how we got it. |
Posted By: JL328
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 12:48pm
there were two pressings of the CD "Backstreet Boys." The version of As Long As You Love Me on the first pressing ran 3:39. The db reflects this time. The version on the second pressing ran 3:31 and is the same as the Radio Mix on the promo. So, when they called it "Radio Mix" on the promo, my guess is they were differentiating it from the first pressing album version. Also, I don't have the box set, but the db indicates this has the "radio mix." If that's the case, that "should" be the same as what's on the second pressing of the album and most other compilations. Is it different? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 11:11am
| Jeff (JL328), do you have the original 3:31 version, and would it be possible to send it? Is the only difference between the 2 mixes the vocals around the 0:07 mark? |
Posted By: JL328
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 7:43am
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I no longer have the 1st pressing. It was one of those CDs that I
complained a girlfriend had "accidentally left" in my car, which I then cranked the hell out of (with the windows up) when nobody was looking. So from memory, I think the intro is timed the same but the harmony vocal that's on the intro in the commonly known version definitely was not on the 1st pressing. I think that's what you mean by the difference at 0:07? The first vocal you hear is nick carter's first verse. Prior to that it was all music. I also think the piano track was re-recorded for the 2nd pressing (but I could be wrong on that). I remember the first pressing piano sounding slightly faster and having a muzik feel if that makes sense--- it sounded like a karaoke track. The first time I heard the second pressing on the radio, I remember thinking it was a cover (remember back then, there were country artists covering pop tracks all the time), but the difference in the piano could just be my ears playing tricks on me. There might also be another percussion instrument in there--- the second pressing just sounded richer, for lack of a better term. Also, the 1st pressing ran about 7 seconds longer--- I think this difference was in the outro. I remember thinking it took longer to get to the closing "I don't care as long as you love me" vocal break that ends the song. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 08 September 2020 at 6:34pm
| Does anyone have the 1st pressing of the Backstreet Boys' self-titled US (1997) CD with the apparent non-radio mix version of "As Long As you Love Me"? I'd like to compare the two versions. I've never heard the version that's 7 seconds longer with a vocal difference at 0:07. Plus with a possible different piano sound, and other percussion added, I'm REALLY curious to hear this obscure mix. |
Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 09 September 2020 at 5:09pm
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Did you get this yet, EdisonLite? I'm quite sure that I
have the original 1997 1st pressing somewhere in my collection, but I cannot find it at the moment. I will keep looking if you have not got a copy yet. ------------- Jason Bellenger Byron Center, Michigan, USA |
Posted By: smallworld
Date Posted: 09 September 2020 at 6:24pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MIBELFORTk - As Long As You Love Me - Backstreet Boys |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 14 August 2021 at 10:06pm
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The first release of the U.S. "Backstreet Boys" album (01241-41589-2) has the original version of "As Long As You Love Me" (3:40, no vocals during intro) and the original of "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)" (with Brian Littrell singing both verses).
The re-release of the U.S. "Backstreet Boys" album (01241-41589-2-R) has the "Radio Mix" of "As Long As You Love Me" (3:32, vocals at 0:07) and a new version of "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)" (with Nick Carter singing the second verse, as used in the music video). The database does not differentiate between these two versions of "QPG". |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 16 August 2021 at 4:57am
Thanks for mentioning the differences with these songs. I used to have their self-titled first album and it was apparently the second pressing with the differences you describe. As for "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)", I know there were two separate commercial CD Singles in the US for the song. One came in a thin, slimline jewel case and the other was a in special, limited edition Digipak (I assume that's what they're called). I checked my collection of CD Singles and apparently the Original LP Version with Brian Littrell singing both verses was on the Limited Edition CD Single (listed simply as "LP Version" on the single). I'm pretty sure I also have the more common slimline jewel case CD Single, so I will check that later today and report back about what version appears on there. I can't speak for what versions are on the 45 and Cassette Single though, since I don't have either one of those. (I stopped collecting Cassette Singles at the end of 1996, several months before this song was a hit). ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 August 2021 at 7:16am
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Regarding "Quit Playing Games," I never realized there are two versions. I have three different US promos and at least one of the commercial CD singles. The promos have the following catalog numbers:
JDJ-42452-2 (LP & inst) JDJ-42452-2A (LP & inst) JDJ-42488-2 (remixes) The commercial CD single I have includes Brian singing both verses, and I had never heard this version until this morning. My copy of JDJ-42542-2A has Nick singing the second verse. I'll pull the other promo without the "A" at the end of the catalog number when time permits to see if it's the same. I always thought the difference between these two promos was simply the packaging. One comes in a digipak and has a "minimax" CD, while the other is in a standard jewel case with a full disc label. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 16 August 2021 at 7:20am
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So is it the other way around? Wikipedia lists the "Video Version" of the single being released first, and then the "LP Version", but that didn't make sense to me.
Also apparently the version with Brian singing both verses was released after they had already re-recorded it with Nick singing the second verse. Maybe they were test-marketing both versions to see which one would catch on. I remember at first BSB had somewhat of a "tough guy"/R&B image (they even rapped a bit on their first European album!), but then they leaned heavily in the teen pop idol direction. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 16 August 2021 at 7:49am
I'm wondering if maybe the LP with Brian on both verses was released first, but the single itself wasn't released until after it was re- recorded with Nick? Wiki also refers to the Nick version as the "Single Version", but like I mentioned before, the commercial CD Single has Brian on 2nd verse. (At least the US Single does. It's possible the Nick version was a single in other countries). EDIT: Ok, just checked Wikipedia and it seems that the LP was released internationally in May 1996, a few months before the re-recording with Nick's vocals. In the US, it was released in 1997 with Brian on 2nd verse and the single released that year also had Brian's 2nd verse vocals. The US re-release of the LP was in 1998 with Nick's vocals. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 16 August 2021 at 8:14am
I have a feeling the 42542-2 is going to be the Brian 2nd verse version, Aaron. I guess that would account for why they'd re-release the same promo with the same number and tracks with an "A" at the end, to signify that something was different about it from the first one. Just a guess, though. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 August 2021 at 11:17am
I pulled the promo, and it has Nick singing the second verse, just like the promo with the "A" at the end. If they had been different, I feel they would've called attention to this change (i.e. "New Version"). Instead, they are both simply labeled LP Version with nothing calling out any differences between the audio contained on each promo. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 17 August 2021 at 4:07am
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Yes, good point. They probably would've made some kind of notation about it being different somehow. Now the question is why there were two different pressings
with the same tracks and basically the same number. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 17 August 2021 at 4:37am
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By the way, getting back to "As Long As You Love Me", it sounds to me like there might be a mix difference on the intro. The "Radio Mix" with
vocals at :07 sounds like it has some extra instrumentation on the intro compared to the original version's intro. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 August 2021 at 5:54am
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The original LP version of "As Long As You Love Me" is a different mix all the way through, and yes, the intro of the Radio Mix has an added acoustic guitar that is not on the LP version. There is additional instrumentation pretty much start to finish on the Radio Mix. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 6:22am
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For anyone who worked in radio when "Quit Playing Games" was on the charts, which version did your station play? I only seem to remember Brian's version
being played. I'm a little confused as to which is considered the "Hit Version". ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 7:38am
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I can say with 100% certainly we only played the version with Nick on the second verse. Hearing the Brian version the other day sounded "wrong" to my ears. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 8:13am
This was most likely a cost-saving measure by Jive. The promo CD without the "A" at the end comes in an elaborate digipak with six postcards containing the pictures of each band member. The disc itself is a fancy "minimax" CD, but I'm not sure if those were any more expensive to make than a normal CD. The "A" disc has only front and back inserts in a jewel case and no "minimax" CD. When this song was a hit, I was working for a small market top 40 station. While we did receive quite a few promo CD singles from the labels, there were times when we weren't serviced a song at all and used TM Century HitDiscs or similar V/A promo comps. While I didn't know it at the time, I can now say for sure that our station almost always received the "generic" promo CD singles in cases when there were two different pressings containing the exact same tracks. Atlantic, Warner Bros., and Reprise, are labels that come to mind during this time period that often made two pressings of several songs. One had full artwork, while the other was generic looking for both the back insert and disc label. Most of the time, these had different catalog numbers, but occasionally a letter would simply be appended to the end of one of the catalog numbers. For example, have a look at these promo CDs for "You Oughta Know": PRO-CD-7565 https://www.discogs.com/Alanis-Morissette-You-Oughta-Know/release/4445313 - https://www.discogs.com/Alanis-Morissette-You-Oughta-Know/re lease/4445313 This disc was issued with front and back inserts, the front being in full color. PRO-CD-7732-R https://www.discogs.com/Alanis-Morissette-You-Oughta-Know/release/4620390 - https://www.discogs.com/Alanis-Morissette-You-Oughta-Know/re lease/4620390 This disc has the exact same track list but instead has only a generic back insert printed in black-and-white. This is an example of what we would be sent to our small market top 40 station far more often whenever two different pressings were made for a particular song. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 8:31am
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Do you remember what the source for the song was, Aaron? Wikipedia says the Nick version was recorded in 1996 and added to the second presssing of
their US debut album in 1998. It looks like the promo CD Singles all have Brian's version, so I'm wondering how US radio stations got Nick's version to be played in 1997 if it wasn't released in the US until 1998. (Assuming that Wikipedia is correct, of course). Is it possible Nick's version could have been on a TM Century CD in '97 before it was on the re-release of the album the following year? ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 8:53am
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I just now noticed another US single for "Quit Playing Games" on Discogs with a number of 42454-2. This is listed as a "Sampler" and has a bar code on
the back. There is also an asterik next to the song's title which indicates it was recorded in Sweden AND at Battery Studios in London, which Wikipedia pointed out as being where Nick recorded his second verse vocals. So maybe this particular disc contains Nick's version and may be where some stations were playing it from? ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 9:05am
You must've misread my earlier post. Both promo CD singles have Nick singing the second verse. There is no promo CD single that has Brian on the second verse. Only the commercial CD single has that version. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 9:09am
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Also, to clear up any confusion for anyone joining mid-thread, we've been discussing the second verse of "Quit Playing Games" (not "As Long As You Love Me"). ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 22 August 2021 at 9:12am
Oops, my bad! Feeling very embarrased right now.... But thanks for clearing up my confusion. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: JFive
Date Posted: 28 October 2021 at 11:18pm
I used listen to A LOT of radio back then. I heard the song played on several stations in different markets and Nick version is the only version I heard. I already had the album on cassette and would always notice the second verse was different on the radio. |
Posted By: JFive
Date Posted: 28 October 2021 at 11:19pm
I had this single/sampler. Bought it from Wal-Mart! It has the video version with Nick on the second verse. |