Chicago - What Kind Of Man Would I Be
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Topic: Chicago - What Kind Of Man Would I Be
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Chicago - What Kind Of Man Would I Be
Date Posted: 04 June 2010 at 10:39pm
| My TM Century copy runs 4:07, which makes me wonder if they faded the single version :04 early or if promo CD copies do actually run a little bit shorter. If anyone has details, will you please share? |
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 10:18pm
| Aaron, the only promo CD single I own for this song (PRO-CD-3777) includes just one track, the "LP Version". And while the actual time (4:13) of this track does run :05 shorter than its listed time of (4:18), this corrected timing still runs :06 longer than your TM Century version does. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 10:34pm
| Thanks for the additional info, Jim! I always greatly appreciate it. While we're on the subject, does anyone know what accounts for the :06 difference between the 4:18 LP version and the 4:12/4:13 single version (although every copy of the single labels it "LP version"). |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 06 June 2010 at 9:49am
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Hi People,
Please don't forget that "LP Version" refers to the contemporaneously released LP 'Greatest Hits 1982-1989' and not to the 'Chicago 19' album (the single/Greatest Hits version is a remix of the 'Chicago 19' version). Andy |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 June 2010 at 10:08am
| Thanks, Andy! That makes sense. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 1:20am
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As a supplement to the promo CD single info now in the database, commercial single copies of Chicago's "What Kind of Man Would I Be?" have an actual run time of 4:13.
Pat, you might also want to clarify for subscribers that the track listed on the promo CD single as "LP version" is actually the same as the commercial single version. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 22 August 2019 at 1:19pm
The single also has a much shorter fade in/intro (about 3 seconds) compared to the Chicago 19 album version (about 10 seconds). |
AndrewChouffi wrote:Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 7:50am
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Is this a very rare case that the Single version found on the GH 1982-1989 is not on a CD Promo? The LP version and the GH 1982-1989 start entirely different as Dan points out.
It seems odd in 1990 that the go to version of this song can only be found on a GH comp of the time and not on a commercial CD single. Maybe there exists another US CD Promo that just isn't in discogs..... ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 8:13am
I'm just guessing here since I don't have the actual promo, but I think the lone promo CD Single listed on Discogs (Reprise/Full Moon PRO-CD-3777) with one track labelled as "LP Version" is referring to the song being from the GH 1982-1989 LP, not the original Chicago 19 LP. I noticed that both versions run very close in length, which can confuse the situation even more. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 8:31am
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And I just noticed that there is a notation on the promo that says, "From The Reprise Album, Greatest Hits 1982-1989 (1-26080)". ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 8:33am
You are probably right. Someone on Discogs mislabeled it. It wouldn't make sense to have the LP version here on a promo CD when the 1982-1989 version was the "hit" single version played on radio. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 9:03am
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Actually, it's not mislabled on Discogs. That's exactly the notation that appears on the label of the disc: "LP Version." ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 9:18am
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The version on 1982-1989 is the only version I ever heard
on the radio here. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 9:55am
Well then, that's a rare time that radio didn't play what was on the promo. I agree, all I ever heard was the single version on the GH 1982-1989. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 10:26am
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As it was pointed out earlier in the thread, “LP Version” refers to the Greatest Hits LP and not Chicago 19, so the version on the promo is the Greatest Hits version.
To put it another way, there is the 1988 LP version, which was released on Chicago 19 in June 1988 and is a non-hit version. Then there's the 1989 LP version, which was released on Greatest Hits 1982-1989 in November 1989 and became the hit. This version peaked in February 1990. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 1:32pm
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The funny thing is, it's labelled as "Remix"
on the back inlay of the GH disc, so you have to wonder why they just didn't label it that way on the promo and commercial singles. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 26 September 2020 at 1:47pm
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Very true, Dan. The promo CD label at least says "Remixed by Humberto Gatica," but that still doesn't make things as crystal clear as it could've been. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 2:45am
| Yeah, that can be confusing. But I followed it. Are there any other examples where a single (with a unique mix/edit) was released concurrently with a greatest hits album (and included on it), but the artist's previous album also contained the song - in an earlier mix. I'd guess there are a lot more examples besides this Chicago one, but I could be wrong. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 2:47am
| On a similar note, when did "Greatest Hits" albums start including new songs that weren't on any previous albums - but were added to the "Greastest Hits" to promote the sale of the album? I don't think it was too common in the '60s and early '70s. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 5:56am
To EdisonLite: I think "I'm Not The One" from the Cars' Greatest Hits was a remix from a previous album that was released as a single - just going by memory. Does anyone out there know if my memory is accurate? Andy |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 6:07am
"Summer" by War in 1976 is the earliest one that comes to my mind. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 September 2020 at 6:34am
Although your example predates mine by a couple years, Best Of Earth Wind & Fire Vol. 1 from 1978 is the parent album for "September." ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: davidlg1971
Date Posted: 29 September 2020 at 9:58pm
The One is on the Cars' Greatest Hits album (1985), but the original mix was on their Shake It Up LP (1981). |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 30 September 2020 at 5:05am
Maybe not common, but not unheard of. One example I can think of right off hand is the Grass Roots' "Bella Linda" from the first "Golden Grass" GH comp. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 2:06am
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Thanks for the info, guys. I was (and am) a big fan of Arista Records, so I noticed this very thing on Barry Manilow's Greatest Hits in 1979 ("Ready to Take a Chance Again" - although I suppose the "Foul Play" soundtrack came out around the same time), then in '82 with Melissa Manchester (her single "Nice Girls', and of course, Air Supply's "Making Love Out of Nothing At All" was released concurrently with their "Greatest Hits" and boy did it help the sales of that album - peaking at #7 and going 5x platinum.
But you've given examples from '78. '76 & '68! I'm sure there were others before 1979 as well. Speaking of greatest hits album, a trivia question that I'm not sure I know the answer for. What was the 1st greatest hits album to be released? I think I heard it was Johnny Mathis' Greatest Hits - and I think it contained a notice like "Includes previously recorded material" (which should be obvious!), but there may have been one or more preceding it. Imagine the 1st person who ever thought up the concept of a Greatest Hits album. Many kudos to them! |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 11:08am
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I can remember back in High School, looking for 'Ups and
Downs' by Paul Revere & the Raiders and only finding it on their 'Greatest Hits'. The old guys in the record store would tell me that an artist would only come out with a 'Greatest Hits' when their career was almost over. I found that was not always the case. -Bill. |
Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 01 October 2020 at 11:29am
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Also, didn't 'Elvis's Golden Records' predate the Mathis
collection? I think most, if not all the selections on Elvis' record were from singles that had not been released on albums. -Bill. |