4 Non Blondes - What’s Up
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Topic: 4 Non Blondes - What’s Up
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: 4 Non Blondes - What’s Up
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:36pm
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The version of "What's Up" that was serviced to radio is called "Remix," and it's definitely different than the album version. My copy on TM's library runs 4:49, and is easily distinguishable by an extra drum hit just before the electric guitar. (On the album version, the electric guitar starts before the first drum hit.)
Which version is on the cassette single? The database currently contains no notes about this song, and all CDs listed have no notation. |
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:40pm
| One more note, my station played in fairly heavy rotation a dance version of "What's Up" in the spring/summer of 1994. The artist was credited as DJ Miko, although the lead vocalist sounded exactly like the lead singer from 4 Non Blondes. It might have even been her doing the vocals. Anyone else recall hearing this version? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:59pm
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Aaron, a little more than a year after the Linda Perry-vocaled 4 Non Blondes hit version, the DJ Miko version (with the UK's Louise Gard on vocals) debuted in its own right on the Hot 100, where, despite peaking at only #58, it remained on the Hot 100 for the then-maximum 20 weeks. I also own a German import "Dance Versions" CD single featuring 3 different versions of the song. I never did hear this on any of my local Top 40 stations in 1994, however. I do also have a promo CD single for the 4 Non Blondes version of "What's Up", and here are the details for that one:
-4 Non Blondes-"What's Up" (PRCD 4933) 1-Remix (listed 4:51; actual 4:50) 2-LP Version (listed 4:51; actual 4:55) 3-Piano Version (listed & actual 4:09) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 11:42pm
| Thanks, as always, Jim! The DJ Miko cover might have been more of a local hit for us. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 5:20am
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The DJ Miko version was definitely the bigger hit in Boston...Kiss 108 really pounded that one. Don't think I heard the 4 Non Blondes one more than a handful of times during its chart run, even though that's the only one you ever hear today.
The station I was at was an AC at the time and didn't play either version as currents (though we did play both as golds when we transitioned to CHR a year or so later). |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:51am
| My local top 40 played the heck out of both versions, which is why I always thought this was a bigger hit. The 4 Non Blondes version actually only went to #14 on the Hot 100 and #15 on the R&R CHR chart. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 3:29pm
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i have a french import cd single issued as interscope 7567-96040-2 that contain the below tracks
1-what's up? (edit) (4:16 listed; 4:15 actual) 2-what's up? (remix) (4:51 listed; 4:50 actual 3-train (no description) (3:47 listed; 3:42 actual) 4-what's up? (piano version) (4:09 listed; 4:09 actual) ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 9:15pm
| To answer the question in Aaron's initial post, cassette single copies of 4 Non Blondes' "What Up?" have an actual run time of 4:55 (there is no printed time on the cassette label). Thanks goes out to Edtop40 for providing the preceding information! |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 03 August 2022 at 8:17pm
Aaron your not mistaken the DJ Miko version was huge in NY. The dance mix was the bigger hit on the radio by far. Much bigger than the slow version. However while assembling 1994 I can't find Whitburn's 3:46 time on any US promo. The version I remember happens to be the 4:13 on NOW 1994 in the UK. Paul Haney do you happen to know where Whitburn got the 3:46 from? The 7 inch isnt listed on discogs, the CD singles dont have anything remotely close to 3:46 on them. Any help from anyone would be appreciated. https://www.discogs.com/master/110132-DJ-Miko-Whats-Up - https://www.discogs.com/master/110132-DJ-Miko-Whats-Up ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
aaronk wrote:Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 04 August 2022 at 4:09am
| That (3:46) timing comes from the U.S. commercial cassette single of the DJ Miko version (ZYX 6691). |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 04 August 2022 at 4:46am
Were there 2 cassette singles of this? Someone noted upthread that they'd timed it to 4:55, and that there was no time listed on it. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 04 August 2022 at 5:16am
That post was referring to the 4 Non Blondes version, not the DJ Miko version (I edited my post to make that clearer). |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 04 August 2022 at 1:50pm
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What did US stations use as the source for the DJ Miko
version? I don't see any US promo CDs on Discogs. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 04 August 2022 at 6:42pm
My college radio station used a promo import (specifically the NOW UK series or promo CD from the UK). There were also several choices off the maxi single. https://www.discogs.com/release/317517-DJ-Miko-Whats-Up-Dance-Versions - https://www.discogs.com/release/317517-DJ-Miko-Whats-Up-Danc e-Versions I'm not sure the 3:46 that Paul references on the cassette was ever the "hit version." Just for reference even I was buying imports from by Brooklyn cd shoppes in 1994, so it doesn't surprise me that the 4:14 is the version I heard on the radio and at college.... PS I reference the DJ Miko version, which should have its own thread lol. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 August 2022 at 7:07pm
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My old top 40 station played it from Hitmakers, which includes the 5:15ish 4
B’s Mix ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 3:47am
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I do remember hearing the (3:46) version on my local Top
40 station. It also appears to be the "offical" video version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKXYtMLvPA8 - What's Up - DJ Miko |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 6:14am
So are you saying your local Top 40 station played the cassette in 1994 Paul? From what it sounds like the 4:14 can't be used to recreate the 3:46 they sound like completely different mixes, especially on the opening. I get cassette was in its peak, but without a CD promo to match I still heard the 4:14 on radio in NY. BTW this reminds me of the Soul II Soul However Do You Want Me Song. You can properly listen to the single version on the CD promo (called the Acapella intro) and that's what is the released commercial version but we all heard the 3:48 overseas version pretty much in rotation in 1989. Same with Tainted Love. You may have heard the 2:42 but I've always heard the 4 minute that goes into Where Did Our Love Go on the promo. Just an observation... ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 9:27am
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FYI, The hit radio version of the the DJ Miko dance version
that became wildly popular back in '94 can be found on the Promo Only Radio Series (Mainstream) May '94 disc. It's track 18 with duration of 3:48. ------------- Rick |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 9:31am
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I suppose it's possible that the local station was playing the (4:14) version, but I
seem to recollect that what they played pretty much matched what was on the cassette single (which I also bought at the time for my own collection). |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 10:05am
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Rick, can you describe how the intro and ending sound on the Promo Only disc? I didn't start subscribing until '96, although I did pick up a few issues secondhand issued prior to the start of my subscription.
The 4:14 radio edit has a cold intro and fade out ending, while the music video has a synth intro and cold ending. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 11:58am
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I'll do my best. From the original 5:16 version, the
version on promo only eliminates the vocals at the beginning before the music starts and just has the music intro before the "hey hey hey" kicks in at the :14 mark. There is no overlap of music and vocals like the original. The ending ends with "what's going on" and then cold ending with slight fade. This was the version I heard in major market radio (Boston/NY) back then. ------------- Rick |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 2:18pm
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Check your PM Promojunkie. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 2:24pm
I can't attest to where the NYC radio stations got things but my college played the 4:14 because I remember trying to find a cd promo for it at Tower Records in Manhattan while going to NYU and could not find it. The video you showed isnt anything close to what I remember and the long versions on the cd maxi are not it either. It wasn't until I was in Brooklyn for the weekend visiting my Ave U Compact Disc Shoppe that he pointed out to me it was on the latest NOW UK comp. I bought the comp and played the hell out of it. This promo only stuff is a first for me, never knew it even existed on it or they put it out. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 2:35pm
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When I get the chance, I'll listen to the cassette single and see what it sounds like (it's been about 28 years,
since I last listened to it!). |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 3:48pm
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Interestingly, the Promo Only track list specifically says "Promo Only Edit" for "What's Up." This means they created their own edit, so it's likely exclusive to that disc. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 05 August 2022 at 5:57pm
That also means the version on the cassette is exclusive to that cassette and never made CD.... ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 09 August 2022 at 5:43pm
Paul, If you can spot whether it sounds like the youtube videos which run about the same time let us know. Thanks! ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 4:38am
I'm hoping to get over to the collection on the way home today to check it out. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 7:50am
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I dubbed my cassette single this morning. It's a quick early fade of the 4 B's Mix. Fade from 3:47 to 3:55, and there you have it. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 7:52am
You just saved me a trip. Thanks, Aaron! |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 10 August 2022 at 8:50am
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And just for the record, I double-checked our original Pop Annual time and it was (3:56), NOT (3:46).
I have now amended it to (3:55) per Aaron's timing. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 8:04am
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I am confused as to what the official Billboard cassette
single timing on the Interscope label really is. Earlier in this thread it was reported to be 4:55 and now Paul Haney is saying that the Record Research cassette single on another label is the official single and is a DJ Miko remix. What gives here? |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 8:16am
Pat, I can see where there's confusion. However, we are discussing two separate chart singles. "What's Up" by 4 Non Blondes hit #14 in 1993 and indeed runs (4:55). "What's Up" by DJ Miko hit #58 in 1994 and that's the one we've been discussing here lately. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 2:04pm
| Got it now! |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 11 August 2022 at 6:11pm
I apologize should have started a separate thread. In the future if the song is the same but the artist is different I think that is the way to go. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 22 October 2024 at 11:13pm
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Re: the DJ Miko version, on Discogs, there are two cassette singles. One says it has these tracks:
3:47 Extended Clap Attack 3:50 Night Ground Mix The other says it has these tracks: 3:47 4 B's Mix 3:50 Extended Clap Attack Is the music on the tapes the same, or are those tracklists accurate? (notwithstanding the fact that they are not full-length versions) FWIW, the UK CD single version is the "Radio Edit" which is the 4 B's Mix, minus a 14-second section at 2:24 (cut on the downbeat so the vocal resumes there), and faded early, reaching silence at 4:13 (previous posts said 4:14 but when I trim leading silence it hits total silence at 4:13.25). The NOW 28 CD fades to silence at 4:06. The Disco Queens: The 90s US CD from 1997 also has this edit and fades it a little shy of 3:59. The Radio Edit was released in the UK in early August 1994, so it seems unlikely that it was getting US airplay before then. This would have been in the middle of its Hot 100 chart run. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 25 October 2024 at 7:25pm
When I was assembling my jukebox of 45's and hit radio versions I think there was a discussion and the 3:48 is what I think I settled on. If I recall its the promo only edit, which was made from the CD promo. The 3:55 is the time on the cassette tape. Its one of the only instances in the 90's where a cd promo did not have the right one. The other one is Black Box - Strike It Up (1991), which times in at 3:24 and for which Aaron had to recreate it. Outside of three instances not aware of any situation where 90's Hot 100 hits are not available on CD. Hope that helps. There's A Party Going On in 1990 by Yvonne is available as a digital download (no cd promo). ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |