"When Youre in Love with a..."- Dr. Hook
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Topic: "When Youre in Love with a..."- Dr. Hook
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Subject: "When Youre in Love with a..."- Dr. Hook
Date Posted: 30 December 2010 at 10:28pm
The actual commercial 45 run time of Dr. Hook's "When You're in Love with a Beautiful Woman" is 2:56. (Thanks to my good friend Abagon for relaying the timing info. The printed record label time is 2:58.) I bring this up because the song's database CD entries run from 2:52-2:57.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 14 November 2012 at 9:58pm
There exists a 12" promo with a 5:12 remix. Not only is it a unique "disco" mix, but the song is sped up by a whopping 4%.
This may warrant its own thread, but does anyone know of any other top 40 hits from the '70s that had promo 12" mixes/edits not released commercially?
I can say for certain there are 12" promo remixes of "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy" by Rod Stewart and "Lotta Love" by Nicolette Larson, as well as a unique promo 12" edit of "Feels So Good" by Chuck Mangione. Any others?
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 14 November 2012 at 10:48pm
Boney M's "Rivers Of Babylon" 12-inch promo remix was mentioned several years ago in the thread for that song. Listed times were 7:30 and 4:06, with the shorter side being edited further for the 3:45 RE-2 DJ 45 reservice. I've never seen a domestic commercial release for either of those.
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 12:40am
I have a commercial 12" of "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy." Does this mean it
differs from the promo 12" version?
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 12:44am
There are 12" promos of the Doobie Brothers' "What A Fool Believes"
as well as one for "You're The Love" by Seals & Crofts. Have not seen
either on a commercial CD.
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Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 5:01am
I dont think the 12" Mix of "Lotta Love" by Nicolette Larson was commercially available.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 8:35am
Santi Paradoa wrote:
I have a commercial 12" of "Da Ya Think I'm
Sexy." Does this mean it
differs from the promo 12" version? |
Interesting! I'm guessing it's the same mix, but I didn't realize it was
released on a commercial 12".
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 8:46am
Santi Paradoa wrote:
There are 12" promos of the Doobie
Brothers' "What A Fool Believes"
as well as one for "You're The Love" by Seals & Crofts. Have not seen
either on a commercial CD. |
The Doobie Brothers was released on a commercial 12", though. Not
sure about the Seals and Crofts.
Also, I should have been more clear. I was wondering about unique
promo 12" versions that were not commercially available on 12" at the
time of release. Since we have done such a thorough job of
documenting promo 7" versions, I thought there may be a few on 12"
singles that were promo only versions. I would think that most promo
12" singles were also released commercially, but there are obviously a
few that only went to DJs and radio. Also, I'm not asking about promo
versions that were serviced on both 7" and 12" singles. Just looking for
what may have been unique to promo 12" vinyl.
The Saturday Night Fever promo "Disco Mixes" is another one that
comes to mind.
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Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 10:27am
Can send you the "Lotta Love" which I know was a remix.
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Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 10:33am
The 12" promo of Superman by The Kinks has a shorter edit that to my
knowledge was only available on the promo 12".
EDIT...... Sorry, just realized that Superman was not a top 40 hit.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:06am
Fetta, I do have that Nicolette Larson promo 12", and I really like that mix! Feel free to add non-top 40 hits if you want.
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Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 1:21pm
Here's another:
Love Will Save The Day (David Morales Mix) - Whitney Houston
Aaron, are you interested in promo 12"'s that included versions that could
only be found on the 12" or just a listing of promo 12"'s that were not
available commercially? For example, "Love Hangover" by Diana Ross had a
12" that was not available commercially (I think) , however you could find the
version featured on the 12" on the Diana Ross LP.
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Posted By: Smokin' TomGary
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 4:28pm
At 13-WAVZ in New Haven, CT we played an in-house edit of the promo 12" of "Precious Love" by Bob Welch. I wondered where the bells came from as they are not on the 45/LP. When 13-WAVZ swapped formats and KC-101 was born we played the 12" promo of "Lotta Love".
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 6:06pm
Fetta wrote:
Aaron, are you interested in promo 12"'s that included
versions that could
only be found on the 12" or just a listing of promo 12"'s that were not
available commercially? For example, "Love Hangover" by Diana Ross had
a
12" that was not available commercially (I think) , however you could find
the
version featured on the 12" on the Diana Ross LP.
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I'm interested in the former, mainly '70s and '80s. Basically, my thought
is that we've explored just about every possible DJ edit/mix that appeared
on promo 45s. Surely there are a handful of mixes/edits that appeared
only on promo 12" singles and not anywhere else (at least at the time
of release).
Pat does not incorporate 12" single information in the database unless the
12" is considered to be the official single version, so there would be no
way for us to know, for example, that "Lotta Love" had a fantastic (IMO)
disco mix on the promo 12" and can only be found there.
Another one that jimct reminded me about is "Whatcha Gonna Do" by
Pablo Cruise. There was a promo 12" that had a unique extended version
that did not appear on any commercial 12".
I'm not trying to establish an endless list of promo 12" singles that were
ever serviced to radio (there are hundreds and thousands, I'm sure). I'm
just interested in those that contained unique mixes or edits that could
not be found anywhere else.
I'm also not trying to list mixes/edits that also appeared on promo 45s, as
I'm sure there are tons of those, too, especially when you get into the '80s
decade.
I'm going to move this discussion to another thread, and perhaps we can
come up with a nice list.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 16 November 2012 at 7:32am
Smokin' TomGary wrote:
At 13-WAVZ in New Haven, CT we played an in-house edit of the promo 12" of "Precious Love" by Bob Welch. I wondered where the bells came from as they are not on the 45/LP. When 13-WAVZ swapped formats and KC-101 was born we played the 12" promo of "Lotta Love". |
TomGary, do you have a copy of that "Precious Love" you speak of? That's a favorite song of mine - it sure would be cool to hear an in-house edit of the 12" (or anything longer than the regular version).
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 16 November 2012 at 3:10pm
Below is the link to the promo only 12" Disco Mix of
"You're The Love" by Seals & Crofts (listed time is 5:29).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o010cw05_gQ
------------- Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 February 2013 at 11:04pm
Does anyone know if the 12" of "When You're In Love With a Beautiful Woman" has come out on CD overseas? (How about any other 12" mixes of Dr. Hook songs?)
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 24 February 2013 at 11:54pm
For Gordon;
since i mentioned it, i did some digging, and i think it's
this CD:
http://www.discogs.com/Dr-Hook-Completely-Hooked-The-Best-
Of-Dr-Hook/master/412647
A 1992 EMI UK Collection called "Completely Hooked: The
Best Of Dr. Hook"
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 25 February 2013 at 12:10am
Nice find, Mark!
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 February 2013 at 1:27am
Just ordered the Dr. Hook import CD on amazon (it was only 70 cents!) Thanks for the tip, Mark!
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 08 November 2014 at 11:13am
The first version to appear on CD was on Capitol's Greatest Hits And More (1987), where it sounds very nice, with an excellent dynamic range, good EQ, and no hint of noise reduction on the fade. The same analog transfer is used for:- Cema's 10 Best Series (1991)
- Warner Special Products' 2-CD Ultimate Party Album (1992; would you want to hear this song at the Ultimate Party?)
- Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 39 Pop Nuggets Late '70s (1995, differently EQ'd digital clone, but with severe compression/limiting applied - avoid)
- EMI UK's Time To Remember 1979 (1996; absolute polarity inverted, which doesn't affect the sound at all)
- Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 19 Always And Forever (1998; differently EQ'd digital clone)
- Simitar's Love Rocks 4 Songs Of Love (1998; differently EQ'd digital clone)
- TM Century's GoldDisc 210 (differently EQ'd digital clone, but with added noise reduction - avoid)
To further complicate things, Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 35 AM Nuggets (1993) also uses the same analog transfer as Greatest Hits And More, but swaps the left and right channels. These discs are based on SS Vol. 35 and also have their left and right channels swapped:- Madacy's Rock On 1979 (1996; digitally exactly 1.5 dB louder)
- Time-Life's Classic Soft Rock Vol. 6 The Air That I Breathe (2006; differently EQ'd digital clone)
Finally, one UK compilation that isn't based on GHAM: Disky's The Beat Goes On Vol. 8 (1997), which fades a few seconds early. And one UK 8-CD set based on BGO Vol. 8, but with a boatload of added compression/limiting: Disky's Greatest Hits Of The '70s (2000).
Best bet
This one is clear. Go for Capitol's Greatest Hits And More (1987).
In general, I HIGHLY recommend Capitol's GHAM series from 1987, which also includes Juice Newton and Helen Reddy. There may be others, too.
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