Elton John - The One
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Topic: Elton John - The One
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Elton John - The One
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:48pm
| The database says DJ 45 copies ran 4:30 and 4:50, but it doesn't list promo CD info. At the least, there was a 1-track promo that had the full album version and a printed time of 5:49. The shorter versions may have been issued on another promo CD. |
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 1:53pm
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Actually, looking at the song note more closely, that info might be incorrect altogether. It says commercial copies were all 5:42, but CDs in the database run between 5:49 and 5:52 with no notation.
Pat, was this info accidentally included with the wrong song, or is the 5:42 a typo? The printed time on the US 45 says 5:49. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 08 February 2011 at 12:27pm
| The (5:42) time comes from Joel Whitburn's Hot 100 Annual so perhaps Joel has a typo. Let's passs this along to Paul Haney. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 09 February 2011 at 7:08am
I've found several cassette single timings from the 1990s where we were off by a few seconds. I've corrected dozens of them over the past few years. I'll re-time "The One" when I get a chance...unless someone else can beat me to it in the meantime. |
Pat Downey wrote:Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 9:47am
Is it the singles themselves that are off, or was it the deck itself? I've noticed a considerable variation in speed from one cassette deck to another. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 2:16pm
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Okay, I just re-timed the cassette single of "The One" by Elton John and got a timing of (5:40). I tried it on the 2 cassette decks available to me (both of which have been perfect in the past) and got the same result. I compared it to the version on the CD album and the cassette does run slightly faster. In fact, the album version sounded slightly slower than what I remembered hearing on the radio back in 1992.
If anybody else has the cassette single and comes up with a different time, please post it. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 2:18pm
I wasn't timing the singles back in the cassette era, so I can't say for sure why some of them were off. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 8:30pm
| Thanks, Paul. So, do we have a case of "LP speed" and "45 speed"? Is it worth noting the near-10-second timing difference between what was on the single and the database CDs? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 09 April 2011 at 6:59am
your theory is exactly correct. We got in two different promo CD singles for this, and here are the particulars: -Elton John-"The One" (MCA5P-2263) 1-(non-described version) (listed 5:49; actual 5:51) -Elton John-"The One" (MCA5P-2302) 1-Short Edit (listed 4:30; actual 4:33) 2-Early Faded (listed 4:50; actual 4:46) I will shortly shoot out both cuts on the 2-track promo to Aaron, for his further research/evaluation. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 April 2011 at 10:27pm
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I was just able to dissect the short versions of "The One." As expected, the "Early Faded" version is merely an early fade of the full length version. The "Short Edit" fades in the same place as the "Early Faded" version, but the intro is cut in half, too; it removes the section from approximately 0:05.6 to 0:18.3. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 19 June 2011 at 6:22pm
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i just timed my cassingle of "the one" and it is exactly 5:52, just like the full length cd version........no where near the 5:40 length paul haney references......can someone else check the run time of their cassingle.....paul, can you check again if your pitch control was compromised?.....if not, then we must have two pressings of the cassingle with no way of knowing the differences because, as far as i know, unlike 45's there is no place for run out groove type etching.........very unusual.... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 20 June 2011 at 4:47am
| Ed, thanks for timing your copy! I timed our copy on 2 different tape decks that have both been perfect on numerous other cassingles. I'd guess that our copy is defective and simply runs too fast. I've seen it happen a few other times in the past. I'm going to correct the running time to (5:52) in our database for the next Pop Annual (which should be out later this year). |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 20 June 2011 at 1:07pm
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paul, can i send you a copy of the cassingle for you to check your machine??..... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 20 June 2011 at 2:58pm
I don't think that's really necessary. Like I said, I think we've just got a defective copy. Whoever timed it back in 1992 got a run time of (5:42) and that was on a third tape deck. I had a few other cassingles that had this same problem back in the day. |