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Topic: Cypress Hill - Insane In The Brain
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Cypress Hill - Insane In The Brain
Date Posted: 31 December 2005 at 5:40pm
There's no mention in the database yet; however, Cypress Hill just put out a Greatest Hits CD (Columbia 97789-edited version), which has their one and only top 40 hit "Insane In The Brain." I picked up a copy of the edited version of the CD, and the "Radio Edit" is faded out to the (3:27) mark instead of ending cold at (3:33).

The time listed on allmusic.com for the explicit cd is (3:33), so I'm guessing they didn't fade it out on this disc. I don't know if there was a commercial CD single issued in the US, but the cassette maxi uses the explicit LP version as the lead track.

(As a non-top-40-note, the song "How I Could Just Kill A Man," which was a major hit on the rap chart, is issued for the first time on CD in its "Radio Version" with alternate lyrics. Interestingly, the track "Hand On The Pump" was issued in a "Radio Edit" on the commercial CD single, but they chose to issue this one in an alternate take on the clean version of Greatest Hits. I have never heard this "clean" version anywhere else, and it doesn't remove the "n" word on the chorus.)



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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 1:19pm
the cassingle version issued on ruffhouse 77135 runs 3:33 and is NOT faded out.........the song ends at about the 3:28 and then has the vocals "i think i'm going crazy" added on at the end.........so it looks like the version you have just snipped the ending vocals off.......

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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 January 2006 at 2:46pm
Does your cassingle have the LP version or Radio Edit?


Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 02 January 2006 at 8:06am
side one is the radio edit...

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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 January 2006 at 9:22am
Ah, so perhaps the "Radio Edit" should be considered the 45 version. There's not much difference between the "Radio Edit" and LP version, except there's a few words that are censored, and the sample at the end that says "I think I'm going crazy" is much louder on the "Radio Edit."


Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 2:11pm
my cassingle issued as ruffhouse 77135 contains, on the A-side, the "radio edit" which runs 3:31.....it contains the intro words "who you tryin' to get crazy with us see, don't you know i'm loco, loco, loco?"...........as well as the outro vocals....."i think i'm going crazy"....it is an edited version, as would be expected with a radio edit.....this should be noted in the db

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Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 3:33pm
I heard a version of "hand on the pump" on the radio back in 1991 that was censored totally different. They took the "n" word out but very creatively. I think I may have it on tape...I'll dig.


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 February 2008 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by chendagam chendagam wrote:

I heard a version of "hand on the pump" on the radio back in 1991 that was censored totally different. They took the "n" word out but very creatively. I think I may have it on tape...I'll dig.

It was released on the commercial CD single if you're interested in finding it. The second verse is different, too. The chorus said "the sucker didn't jump."


Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 24 February 2008 at 8:23am
question is.....what accounts for the 0:04-0:05 second diffrences in the tracks in the db...


(S) (3:31) Ruffhouse/Columbia 53931 Black Sunday (uncensored version)
(S) (3:27) Ruffhouse/Columbia 57296 Black Sunday (radio version) (censored version)
(S) (3:31) Ruffhouse/Columbia 69854 Ruffhouse Records Greatest Hits (uncensored version)
(S) (4:02) Ruffhouse/Columbia 69854 Ruffhouse Records Greatest Hits (remix)
(S) (3:26) Columbia 97788 Greatest Hits From The Bong (uncensored version faded :05 early)
(S) (3:26) Columbia 97789 Greatest Hits From The Bong (censored version)


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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 February 2008 at 12:55pm
Ed, I own the last CD on the list above, and as I stated earlier in this thread, it is an early fade of the Radio Edit. If I had to guess, I'd say that all of the 3:26/3:27 versions are early fades; however, only one of the CDs has that comment.

What's interesting is that the original censored Black Sunday album has song faded early. This is probably the same one they used on the censored Greatest Hits. I wonder if it was some kind of licensing issue with the sample used on the end that caused them to fade it out on some releases.


Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 11 September 2009 at 3:29pm
my cd single issued as columbia 77019 contains 8 tracks which are listed below

1-insane in the brain (lp version) 3:32
2-insane in the brain (extended) 4:56)
3-insane in the brain (radio edit) 3:32
4-insane in the brain (instrumental) 3:32
5-when the sh-- goes down 3:09
6-when the sh-- goes down (extended) 4:12
7-when the ship goes down 3:09
8-when the ship goes down (instrumental) 3:09

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Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 21 September 2009 at 4:47pm
Going back to "pump" I have the comm CD single with the "official clean" ver. Back in 1991 on the radio there was a really cool censored version that muted the "n" word. I'm sure it was a dj cutting it up on the tables.


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 21 September 2009 at 5:13pm
Hey John, I have both the commercial and promo CD singles for "Hand On The Pump." The 1-track promo lists "Radio Edit," but it's still sealed. I would presume it's the same version as "Radio Edit" on the commercial maxi CD. If you think it might be a different version, I can break open the seal and check.


Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 21 September 2009 at 5:53pm
No I highly doubt it is different. I think the DJ's just used some fancy hand to mixer techniques to make it sound cool. From memory they scratched over the choice words and muted the "n" word with a na na na effect. There may be a promo 12" out there with an earlier version but I doubt it found it's way to CD but who knows. Let me try to dig up my tape...I think I know where it is before you go breaking the seal.

I know this was the case with Will Smith's "Gettin Giggy..." The promo 12" is slightly different at the "Mama-unh mama-unh ima come closer" lyric.


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 21 September 2009 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by chendagam chendagam wrote:

I know this was the case with Will Smith's "Gettin Giggy..." The promo 12" is slightly different at the "Mama-unh mama-unh ima come closer" lyric.

Really? You've got me curious about that one! Please elaborate or start a new thread :)


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 January 2018 at 10:09am
I just received a used copy of the explicit Black Sunday CD, and this
also has the song "Insane In The Brain" faded at the end. Perhaps only
very early pressings had the full version. The matrix on my copy is
DIDP-079724 17.

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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 23 January 2018 at 2:59pm
Not sure where I got it from, when I've dealt with 10's of
thousands of files over the years, but mine is censored
from an Insane In The Brain (EP) with the going crazy
vocal at the end.

Could it have been a licensing issue with the tacked on
vocal? What's it's original source?

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Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 23 January 2018 at 4:17pm
The "Think I'm Goin' Crazy" sample is from the
Youngbloods song "All Over The World"


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 January 2018 at 4:19pm
I believe all singles contain the unfaded ending with the Youngbloods "All Over The World" sample at the end. The single was released in advance of the album by about a month. My old cassette copy of the explicit Black Sunday also had the full, unfaded ending, and Pat's CD contains the full ending, too, as is indicated in the database.

My guess, like you suspected, John, is that the sample was not and could not be cleared. Ruffhouse must've then quickly re-pressed the album with a quick fade at the end of "Insane."

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Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 24 January 2018 at 5:06am
Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

Not sure where I got it from, when I've dealt with 10's of
thousands of files over the years, but mine is censored
from an Insane In The Brain (EP) with the going crazy
vocal at the end.

Could it have been a licensing issue with the tacked on
vocal? What's it's original source?


The "going crazy" ending is a sample of "All Over The World (La-La)" by The Youngbloods.


Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 01 February 2018 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:


Interestingly, the track "Hand On The Pump" was issued in a "Radio
Edit" on the commercial CD single, but they chose to issue this one
in an alternate take on the clean version of Greatest Hits. I
have never heard this "clean" version anywhere else, and it doesn't
remove the "n" word on the chorus.)


Digging this oldie but goodie up regarding "Hand On The Pump." I
finally dug up my old cassette I recorded from the radio back in
1991. It is the alternate take on the clean version like Aaron
mentioned above! It has the "n" word in tact and they did a
"scratch/mute" over the word. I know it's the alternate take because
it uses the word "buster" instead of "sucker" on Sen Dog's (verse 2)
section. I wonder if this is the version on the promo CD single that
you have still sealed Aaron. If it is still sealed don't bust it open
maybe we can find an opened copy first. Or it could possibly have
been first released on a promo 12" since the tape I have from the
radio was a "weekend dance party" where they usually spun the
wax.


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 February 2018 at 6:49pm
Most likely they played it from the Cypress Hill promo LP (CAS 4157). I'm fairly certain "Hand On The Pump" came out as a single sometime in early 1992. (Billboard shows a date of 5/2/1992 for its peak on the Hot Rap Singles chart.) Surely the promo LP was out by that time.

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Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 08 April 2021 at 7:00pm
Aaron, I was able to listen to the greatest hits you mention at the
top of this thread. It is indeed the same alternate "clean" version I
recorded all those years ago off the radio. The DJ must have
censored the "n" and "a--" words for airplay.


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 April 2021 at 9:31pm
It's fun to discover some of those old clean/radio versions! Years after this thread started, I came across that Cypress Hill promo LP, and it does have the "alternate" clean version of "Hand On The Pump" that leaves the "n" word in the chorus. Until the clean Greatest Hits CD, this version was exclusive to that promo LP. Pretty cool!

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Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 10 April 2021 at 6:02pm
I wonder how the promo clean version from that LP wound up on
the greatest hits CD. You would think the radio version from the
commercial CD single would have been more accessible.


Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 27 February 2022 at 12:42pm
This might be the wrong thread but since we are discussion
"Hand on the Pump" on here I thought I would continue. I
finally picked up the promo CD single (CSK 74105) for HOTP
{the one you (Aaron have sealed}. It's the same version
on the commercial CD single but they left $--t in tact at
the 0:32 mark. Most likely an early mistake.


Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 04 April 2022 at 5:54pm
This may be a question for Aaron: Is the greatest hits
clean radio version of "How I Could Just Kill A Man" the
same as the "Radio / Clean Version" found on the promo CD
single (CSK 4486)?


Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 05 April 2022 at 6:33am
Yes, same version of "How I Could Just Kill A Man."

That's interesting about the promo of "Hand On The Pump" being a slightly different version than what's on the commercial CD. Mine is still sealed, so I've never been able to check.

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