Patti Austin/James Ingram-Baby come to me
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Topic: Patti Austin/James Ingram-Baby come to me
Posted By: abagon
Subject: Patti Austin/James Ingram-Baby come to me
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 11:19am
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Patti Austin with James Ingram - "Baby Come To Me"
The actual LP running is (3:45) with the listed time "3:47". (title "Every Home Should Have One" by Patti Austin, Qwest QWS 3591). The intro on the LP version is :08 longer than the commercial 45. (The 45 intro time 10 sec, the LP intro time 18 sec.) --abagon |
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Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 20 April 2011 at 12:49pm
| on my CD, also 3591, it runs 3:37. |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 21 April 2011 at 8:59am
How many seconds is the introduction on your CD? 10 seconds or 18 seconds?@ Thanks, abagon |
budaniel wrote:Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 21 April 2011 at 8:09pm
| it's ten seconds. |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 22 April 2011 at 10:19am
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Thank you for the answer, budaniel.
The vinyl LP info: When the first :08 on the introduction of the vinyl LP is cut off. It becomes the :05 longer version than the commercial 45. --abagon |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 22 April 2011 at 1:33pm
| so does this mean the full length album version is not available on CD??? |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 22 April 2011 at 5:45pm
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Full length album version is not available on CD, perhaps. Because there are no 3:45 length CDs on the db.
--abagon |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 23 April 2011 at 12:29pm
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It's interesting that even the CD release of Patti Austin's Every Home Should Have One contains the 45 version of "Baby Come to Me". It makes me wonder if all vinyl LP pressings contain this longer 3:45 version, or if perhaps the Qwest record label made a decision to substitute it with the shorter 45 version on later vinyl LP pressings once the song became a smash.
When Abagon first reported his LP containing a longer intro, it triggered something in my memory bank leading me to think I may have heard this version on the radio before. That said, does anyone have a promo 45 copy containing the 3:45 version? |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 23 April 2011 at 12:48pm
| I'm now wondering if I had the full length version on a k-tel album ages ago or if they used the short version. So I assume the long intro just repeats the same two intro bars again? |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 24 April 2011 at 5:55am
No, the long introduction on my LP doesn't repeat it again. --abagon |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 24 April 2011 at 8:01am
| how does the long intro differ? I've tried to find it on youtube, but all I've found is the short intro. |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 24 April 2011 at 12:25pm
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I also was not able to find it on YouTube.
But I found a video by another artist which have the same intro as the vinyl LP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1wSuu7GMM - Paul Mauriat - Baby, come to me (1983) --abagon |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 24 April 2011 at 1:12pm
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I seem to remember the hi-syth part in the intro on her LP had sort of an intro, or short prelude, then when guitar comes in (the 45 start) the hi-synth plays the rest. Now i'm bummed i got rid of the LP... it never occured to me those few seconds would never see light of day again.
-MM |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 24 April 2011 at 6:41pm
| never ever heard that intro, so the version on the k-tel LP(I think it was "Heartbeat of the 80s") was the single mix. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 23 October 2019 at 2:18pm
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Was just thinking about the LP version of this track today. I'm also bummed Mark gave away his LP. :)
Here's a YouTube dub. If it weren't for what sounds like interference at the end, it could conceivably be salvageable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG1VRpOjp4A ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 23 October 2019 at 3:47pm
| Quincy is at it again! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 October 2019 at 6:49pm
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I'll have a look through my LPs to see if I have a copy. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 23 October 2019 at 8:10pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvOhzhzmKZ8
This is another upload. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 29 October 2019 at 11:36am
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I do have a copy of the LP, and I just took a listen. Not only is the intro longer on the LP version, but I think I'm also hearing slight mix differences. When I get a chance to do a more careful A/B, I'll provide an update. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 30 October 2019 at 11:46am
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I sent Ron and Mark a dub of my LP to see if they notice any mix differences. I think I hear some very subtle differences that are not simply attributed to a different EQ, but I want a second opinion. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 30 October 2019 at 8:37pm
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Boy, if there are mix differences, they're really slight.
The only element I can pinpoint is a high-pitched keyboard part at the beginning of the song. If you start counting the beats at the beginning of the 45 version, this keyboard part is from roughly beat #8 to beat #13. This one keyboard part seems to be emphasized just a bit in the 45 version, compared to the original LP version. In the 45, I think I may hear the keyboard part move around in the soundstage, like a stereo reverb or something like that. In the LP, that one part seems to be stationary in the soundstage. I may just be hearing EQ-related artifacts; the mastering on the James Ingram Greatest Hits The Power Of Music is pretty sparkly, and really emphasizes the high end, compared to what I'd expect to hear from vinyl. But boy, is that a minor difference. Let's see what Mark and Aaron can determine; they have better ears than I do. By the way, the promo 45 has a designation of "(Edit)", which is no guarantee that it's not a remix. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 30 October 2019 at 11:08pm
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I am on the fence about whether or not there are mix differences. I may be able to chalk it up to a tiny bit of compression and EQ difference. There are a couple spots that stand out to me, though, but really only when I'm listening on headphones.
1) The hi-hat taps on the intro have a fairly distinguishable delayed reverb on the 45 version. The reverb doesn't stand out as much on the LP. This is the most obvious difference I can hear. The next two are very subtle... 2) During the first chorus, after the line "this was meant to be," there's a keyboard melody. On the LP, it's in the left channel with only a faint trace in the right channel. On the 45 version, there's a stereo reverb in the right channel that stands out a bit more. 3) During the bridge ("the night can be cold...") there's a triangle percussion instrument that is panned to the left in the 45 but more centered on the LP. These differences are all very minor, but they suggest that Quincy mixed the 45 and LP versions separately and didn't simply make an edit for the 45. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 20 November 2019 at 8:47pm
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I finally found the original LP version on cd and it's
from a German import called: The No.1 hits 1983 on the SR International label. Above that logo its says 796110 Club Exclusive. https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-No1-Hits- 1983/release/5823691 |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 12:27pm
Did you mean that you actually have the CD, or just that you came across a listing that had the LP Version's running time? If you have the CD, how is the sound on it? ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 9:03pm
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Yes, I bought the actual cd from overseas on Discogs and
it sounds good. |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 28 March 2020 at 5:56pm
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Great, thanks. I'll probably order it myself now. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 25 April 2020 at 8:12am
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I just obtained the CD and at about 13 seconds in, I hear what sounds to be either very light static or dust, which makes me suspect that it may have been transferred from vinyl. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 27 April 2020 at 6:43am
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I stand corrected. I put the disc into another drive and it came out fine, with the static/dust noise being gone. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 27 April 2020 at 6:03pm
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I thought it sounded decent. It looks like Quincy won't
totally rewrite history with this one. (LOL) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 29 April 2020 at 8:52am
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After Dan and I both listened to the import CD again, we both agree that there is definitely static at the 0:13 mark. It sounds to my ears like someone was making a small adjustment to the fader, and the fader was dirty (crackly).
This has also given me a chance to re-listen more carefully to the LP version and 45 version, and I'm now convinced that they are very slightly different mixes. Quincy added a bit of high frequency reverb to the hi-hat and vocals of the 45 version that is not present on the LP mix. So, you truly can't edit down the LP version to create the 45 version, even though the mixes are super close. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: EternalStatic
Date Posted: 29 April 2020 at 12:18pm
| Quincy was sneaky like that. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 17 April 2022 at 5:39pm
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Pat has the LP version as 3:45. Is that true or does it need to be updated to reflect the timing on the 1994 German compilation CD which is about 2.5 seconds short of that? ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 18 April 2022 at 3:58pm
Maybe the CD version runs faster than the LP, therefore resulting in the 2 second difference? ------------- Dan In Philly |