Billy Joel - Say Goodbye To Hollywood
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Topic: Billy Joel - Say Goodbye To Hollywood
Posted By: mstgator
Subject: Billy Joel - Say Goodbye To Hollywood
Date Posted: 24 June 2011 at 5:49pm
The database shows this song with a "length" distinction between LP and 45.
I have a dub of the 45, and the drum intro (before the piano and bass kick
in) sounds like it is only half as long as what's on the (live) LP. Should this be
a "version" distinction instead? (Also, the 45 fades in the crowd noise while
the LP comes in at full volume, although that's not uncommon with live hits.)
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Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 25 June 2011 at 10:17am
Good catch, mstgator!
I compared the commercial 45 with the "Songs In The Attic" LP.
On the LP, the Billy's vocal starts at :22.
On the 45, his vocal starts at :10.
Actually, the audiences' applause from the start on the 45 is shorter than the LP.
--abagon
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Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 25 June 2011 at 11:20am
The original, non-remastered edition of Greatest Hits Volume I & II contains the live recording and is identified in the database as the 45 version. On this CD, however, the track fades in and fades out earlier than on the 45. The true 45 version can therefore not be recreated from this CD.
The remastered edition of the CD contains the original studio version.
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 25 June 2011 at 6:10pm
You can come darn close to creating the 45 version by editing the version on the original Greatest Hits Volume I & II. By removing the first :05 of audience applause you will end up with an edit that is :03 shorter than the 45.
Yes the original "length" entry has been changed to "version".
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 27 August 2016 at 2:39pm
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 27 August 2016 at 4:14pm
Thanks, Mark. While this helps, it also doesn't help at the same time (if that makes any sense). The 45 fades in, but in order to make the edit you
have to remove the five seconds of extra applause from the CD (then I assume fade in from there). Then from what I'm reading here, you need to add the
next eight seconds or so from the LP version to make the fadeout correct (and get a running time of (3:52), which is what Abagon reported is the correct
running time of the single).
Oy vey. Is there anyone who could try this, or has a really good quality/declicked needledrop?
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Doug
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All of the good signatures have been taken.
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 27 August 2016 at 8:28pm
Doug, I could whip up this 45 edit from the LP version in
5 minutes. I have the LP version, all I need is a 45 dub
for reference.
I have an mp3 taken from the Gr. Hits CD so I know where
the 2 edits are in the intro. But this mp3 didn't rip
right, so it's missing the beginning and end of the file
so I have no reference for the fade-in or fade-out.
MM
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