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Posted By: EdisonLite
Subject: Sony-BMG digital singles
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 2:48pm
| I have a contact at Sony and pitched him the idea of releasing several artist Playlist CDs (and other series like that one) that would contain single mixes and songs never released on CD. Unfortunately, Business Affairs isn't interested in ANY of this, even though my contact thinks I presented some great ideas. So then today I suggested releasing digital singles of single mixes that have never been released on CD anywhere. He thought that idea had lots of potential and will be forwarding it on to the powers that be. I'm giving him a list of suggestions but before I do, I thought I'd reach out to all you guys - if there are any Sony/BMG singles that have single mixes never released anywhere in the world on CD, and you'd like to see digital releases that come right off the master tapes, please indicate so here and I'll put together a list. If you have the following info, please include the catalog # and the tape # as listed on the 45. Also, please don't include singles that can just be edited from their album versions. I'm pitching him on the idea of single MIXES that have not come out. My list won't be limited to top 40 hits, but obviously a big artist with a non-top 40 hit would be more appealing than a lesser-known artist with a non-top 40 hit. |
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 3:01pm
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Barry Manilow's "It's A Miracle" I think would qualify. The LP version is on CD, as is an underdub of the LP version (much more common). There is one CD with the 45 mix, but needs two edits to correctly create the 45 version (that CD is out of print, though).
AS-0108 is the catalog number. Runout etching is 2094-S K-9424 1 (not sure whether that's the tape number or not). ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 3:02pm
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So the commercial 45 single versions of "Keeping The Faith," "Sometimes A Fantasy," and "Movin' Out(Anthony's Song)" might be what you're needing? Also, Loggins & Messina's "Thinking Of You." ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 3:12pm
| Yes, Santi, I was thinking of those specific 3 Billy Joel songs. L&M - good idea, too. Can you provide catalog #'s and tape #'s for each? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 3:15pm
| Oh and also can someone please include the info for the 12" version of "Keeping the Faith", since that isn't on CD either? |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 5:40pm
| The fact that the Billy Joel songs in question haven't been released up to this point, if an artist, such as Billy Joel, objects to their release, would that halt a project like this? |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 5:44pm
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Eddie Money - Two Tickets To Paradise
might be nice to see that see the digital light of day. (and i was gonna mention "Sometimes A Fantasy" i see that's covered!) Bruce Hornsby - Every Little Kiss Jefferson Starship - No Way Out John Denver - Sweet Surrender (i was just talkin' about this one with some friends...the 45 is neither the studio recording nor the live take, it is a special mix for the 45, using some elements of the live version, but remixed, with extra overdubs.) aren't there a few Hall & Oates 45 mixes? Not sure.... Hmm. For Sony/BMG this could be quite a list. -MM |
Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 5:45pm
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Sly and the Family Stone - Everyday People
What are some of the labels that would be involved? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 5:48pm
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Two Tickets To Paradise was released on the Playlist: Best Of Eddie Money CD, so that one is available. I think the Playlist series also knocked out the remaining Hall & Oates songs that were hard to find, too, at least in terms of special mixes. Every Little Kiss is a great suggestion! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: mainrhythm
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 6:12pm
Sony Columbia Epic Legacy Red BMG RCA J Arista LaFace So So Def Jive Zomba Probably others too |
Indy500 wrote:Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:00pm
One other Billy Joel song that would qualify would be "The Entertainer" (45 is not only an edit, but has steel guitar overdubs while the LP doesn't). Columbia 3-10064 / ZSS159590 ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:02pm
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Here are some ideas in addition to the ones above:
A Flock Of Seagulls - Space Age Love Song Barbra Streisand - The Way We Were Samantha Fox - Naughty Girls (Need Love Too) Billy Joel - The Entertainer Daryl Hall - Dreamtime (actually the 45 is just a longer version of the LP mix, but still almost impossible to find) Hall & Oates - Possession Obession Earth, Wind & Fire - Fall In Love With Me Journey - Suzanne Loverboy - This Could Be The Night Simon & Garfunkel - all those unique mono 45 version (highly unlikely to happen I realize) Boston - Peace Of Mind Also, another big vote for John Denver's "Sweet Surrender". It's so hard finding a 45 to needledrop that isn't marred by excessive groove noise, particularly bad during the very quiet opening passages. Poor quality RCA vinyl was a real problem for 45s around that time. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:11pm
Hmm, according to Pat's database the 45 and LP are the same. Do you know something we don't know, Mark? :) Also, quite a few Simon & Garfunkel 45s are different in mix from their LP counterparts. Notably: The Sounds Of Silence (Columbia #4-43396) Mrs. Robinson (Columbia #4-44511) I Am A Rock (Columbia #4-43617) Cecilia (Columbia #4-45133) Don't have the actual 45s, so I can't provide tape numbers/runout groove numbers. EDIT: Great minds think alike on S&G. :) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: SoCalDrew
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:14pm
| Eddie Money - Baby Hold On |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:15pm
Yes, if Billy Joel has a clause in his contract that allows him to decide what versions get released on CD or digitally, and IF he stopped these versions coming out on purpose, then he won't let them come out digitally either. But no one really knows if that's the case. Even so, there are so many other good ones for this project, if it should see the light of day, that is. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:17pm
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It would also be great to get the big 60s hits from RCA artists in their original mono 45 mixes, like the ones from the superb Gold Standard 45 reissue series. Neil Sedaka and Sam Cooke would be prime candidates. In many cases, those 45 mixes are far superior to the stereo LP versions. And the "Good Times" 45 sounds like a unique mix to me.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:21pm
Unless they're improper edits, this 45 is fairly easy to find on CD (there are 16 entries in the database where the 45 version is available). ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 7:56pm
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Chase -- Get it On EPIC
All those Chicago mono 45 mixes on Columbia including Beginnings Mark Lindsay -- Arizona mono 45 on Columbia |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 18 July 2011 at 10:10pm
I'd think so, especially for an artist who's still currently signed, and even moreso for one of Columbia's "5 B's". For the same reason, I don't think we'll see "The Way We Were." http://tinyurl.com/3ed5l9o - Hollywood Reporter on Columbia's 5 B's |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 2:08am
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Nonetheless, I will suggest "THE WAY WE WERE" again, and add the catalog and tape numbers: Columbia 4-45944 / ZSS 158863
If you want to tell your contact, Gordon, the entire first and last verses use a different vocal take than on the "Way We Were" album version, and the single version has never, ever been issued on CD anywhere in the world. Also, the mono single versions for this double-sided hit: Carole King "I Feel The Earth Move" ODE-66015 /66031 and "It's Too Late" ODE-66015 / 66032 I'll try to think of some others. And has your friend ever mentioned lossless? |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 7:47am
| There is still one remaining Hall & Oates "hit version" that hasn't been released digitally--"One On One". The DJ 45 featured an edited version of the 12" mix. This is the version was played on the radio where I lived. Technically the 45 version of "Possession Obsession" hasn't seen a proper digital relase either as it is faded too early on the 2 disc hits compliation. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 10:28am
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Here are some numbers for some of the Billy Joels that have been mentioned, Gordon:
Sometimes A Fantasy 1-11379 / ZSS 167776 Keeping The Faith (Special Mix) 38-04681 / ZSS 173147 Movin' Out - 3-10708 / ZSS 164108 The Entertainer - 3-10064 / ZSS 159589 Though I don't think the ZSS numbers are the "tape number" -- that would be the matrix number, which indicates the pressing, not the tape. The promo 45s have a different matrix number, for example. |
Posted By: SoCalDrew
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 11:22am
Good to know, the only version I've found sounded suspiciously like a needledrop. Any hints as to which one has the best mastering? |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 11:37am
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That's not something I'm expert at. Let me defer on that. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: john halloran
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 11:54am
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How about:
Barbra Streisand/Stoney End All of the early Chicago singles,particularly "Does Anybody Really Know" Sly and the Family Stone/Thank You Loggins and Messina/Vahevela |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 1:41pm
Re: No Way Out ... well, sorry i was going from memory, i thought the 45 said something about a mix like "rock mix" or something, but that may have been a promo or a B-side... so nevermind. Re S&G ... yeah i figured there'd be many requests for those singles. Just to add some info, "I Am A Rock" is a completely different recording than the LP. It is very close, so the LP's fine with me but nonetheless, the 45 is not the same take/recording. "Cecilia" is also a very different mix, has some alternate vocals and the entire fade where they refrain "Whoa-whoa" over and over? On the mono single each one is unique, but on the LP version (for some odd reason) they looped one, so it's the same "whoa" all thru the fade. I also finally heard the 45 mix for "Bridge Over Troubled Water" (we never had these 45's, we had the LP's and 8-tracks around the house and car...)... that mono mix is quite different as well. Very interesting to hear. MM Oh and PS: thanks Aaron for the tip about "Two Tickets"..i was unaware they finally released it. Great. MM |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 1:56pm
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Rhino's done a pretty good job with releasing 45 versions of Chicago singles. "Make Me Smile" (which CBS put out on Chicago IX) and "25 Or 6 To 4" are very available.
Although among the exceptions are the aforementioned "Beginnings" and the stock 45 of "Does Anybody. . ." (the promo 45 of "Does Anybody. . ." is available but I'm not sure if the CD is still in print). Also, the double-sided hit "Questions 67 And 68" and "I'm A Man" would qualify (there is a stereo edit of "Questions" that's really close but not exact). Catalog numbers: "Beginnings" (Columbia 4-45417) "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" (Columbia 4-45264) "Questions 67 And 68"/"I'm A Man" (Columbia 4-45467) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 8:09pm
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<And has your friend ever mentioned lossless? >
No Brian. Of course, it's something I'd prefer. But right now, I'm just trying to get them interested in releasing these digitally. Other than rhino.com, what sites offer lossless (that aren't WB product like Rhino)? In other words, do there already exist sites where Sony/BMG product are available digitally as lossless? Certainly, iTunes is not one. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 9:16pm
Not Sony, I don't think, no, but HDTracks is getting an increasing number of labels, including Univesal and Warner, and selling them as 24-bit, 96khz or higher downloads, which is digital master tape quality. Problem is, they sell NO singles, just albums, many of which are "album only," or at least the key tracks that everybody wants are. The reason I asked about lossless is because of the news reports several months ago that said Apple was in talks with all the major labels about offering 24-bit lossless downloads. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 July 2011 at 9:17pm
The commercial single was stereo... is there a difference between it and the album version? (Though for some reason, the reissue "Hall of Fame" 45 of "Stoney End" was mono.) |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 8:50am
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All great picks, guys!
My list will include songs that have been issued on CD somewhere in the world, but that are very rare and next to impossible to locate. Sorry, I do not have the 45s on hand, or immediately available for the cat #, as I have to dig them all out, but my picks include: Rock With You - Michael Jackson Wanna be Startin' Something - Michael Jackson Off The Wall - Michael Jackson Fall In Love With me - Earth, Wind & Fire Maggie - Redbone Wovoka - Redbone Hold On (With Strings) - Wild Cherry And, here's three that only showed up on the Sony 100 years: Soundtrack of a Century set: Dream On - Aerosmith Lowdown - Boz Scaggs Play That Funky Music - Wild Cherry ------------- |
Posted By: john halloran
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 8:56am
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[/QUOTE]
The commercial single was stereo... is there a difference between it and the album version? (Though for some reason, the reissue "Hall of Fame" 45 of "Stoney End" was mono.)[/QUOTE] Brian, The strings were mixed down/out of the last coda (Babs wanted a "rock" top-40 hit). I thought of a couple more: Cymarron/Rings also would be nice to have a 1st generation dub of Santana/Oye Como Va, though I believe that can be edited. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 9:09am
Actually, Grant, the 45 mix/edit of "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" is on all the issues of "King of Pop," worldwide. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 3:06pm
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does anyone have a comprehensive list of all the label names that would fall under the sony/bmg label umbrella? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 4:38pm
------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 6:00pm
Which begs the question--if Rhino now controls Chicago's back catalogue, would Chicago be off limits for a project like this? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 10:42pm
Yes. Chicago not only controls the Columbia-era music, they own it. ------------- |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 20 July 2011 at 10:51pm
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More current Sony/BMG associated labels:
CBS Associated Blue Sky ARC (American Recording Company - Earth, Wind & Fire's label) Okeh Date T-Neck Ode Ross Records (Diana Ross' label) ------------- |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 7:03am
Chicago owns it, or Rhino owns it? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 8:50am
Yes. If a Warner Brothers subsidiary (Rhino) owns Chicago material, Sony/BMG is not going to release digital singles that it would have to license from one of the other 3 major labels. Also, on the list of current labels under the Sony/BMG roster, I think Arista should be included. Though not very active, Arista did put out all the decades-themed albums by Barry Manilow of the past five years (although his very last album was Barry's own project and not on the Arista label). |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 9:14am
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Arista was listed on Page 1.
Would Bell be included (since most of Bell's artists were absorbed into Arista)? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 10:15am
Good question. I have noticed that Tony Orlando & Dawn hits have shown up on quite a few Sony comps, so maybe Sony does own the Bell catalog. If that's the case, then I would add "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Ole Oak Tree" to the wish list. The keyboard lick is brought out much more prominently in the mono 45 mix, making for a more effective instrumental hook. Only the stereo mix has appeared on CD. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 3:04pm
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Remember, BMG owns the bell Catalog. When Sony and BMG
merged, they all fell under the same umbrella. That's why you see Bell artists on the legacy label now. That's why Vic Anecini was able to do the Partridge family and Barry Manilow sets. Manilow started out as a Bell artist. ------------- |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 27 October 2013 at 8:34pm
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BMG must've found a rarity recently since they included a
stereo version of the Partridge Family's remake of "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" on the Playlist CD a few weeks ago. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 28 October 2013 at 6:50am
| wow, that's great news. I didn't even know this. I'll have to get the CD for this. Is it basically the same version (vocals, instrumentation) but in stereo? |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 28 October 2013 at 6:08pm
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Yes Gordon it is the same but in stereo. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 March 2014 at 11:53am
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Though the Sony Digital Singles project I've been working on is not coming out yet, it is getting closer, and in the meantime, my Sony contact did manage to get two of the 12 inches and one 7 inch single released on this digital/itunes album - "21 Totally '80s Hits":
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/21-totally-80s-hits/id8268 33636 It includes: Toy Soldiers - Martika (correct 7" remix) We Built This City - Starship (12" mix) Break My Stride - Matthew Wilder (12" mix) Every US CD containing "Toy Soldiers" has never used the correct, full-length 7" remix. This is the first time it's available digitally in the US. And the two 12" mixes have only been released on vinyl, up until now. BTW, for those people who are curious, these are the other singles we're hoping to release (however, every song has to get approved by a whole team of Sony people it seems, so I can't promise that any of these will see the light of day but hopefully most will): 7" mixes: Keeping the Faith - B Joel Sometimes a Fantasy - B Joel Movin' Out - B Joel The Entertainer - B Joel Piano Man - B Joel Every Little Kiss - B Hornsby Mandolin Rain - B Hornsby Look Out Any Window - B Hornsby Thinking of You - Loggins & Messina Sweet Surrender - John Denver Second Avenue - Art Garfunkel Every Woman in the World - Air Supply So Close - Diana Ross Tragedy - John Hunter Oh Julie - Barry Manilow I've Got a Feeling - Al Wilson Don't Cry Out Loud - Melissa Manchester (from the no-glitch 7" master tape) plus a half a dozen other singles that peaked below the top 40! (including Mac Davis, Dolly Parton, Lou Rawls, Bertie Higgins, etc.) 12" mixes (besides the 2 that just came out): Keeping the Faith - B Joel (the true 12" mix, not the alts that have shown up on boxed sets) +3 Bruce Springsteen 12" mixes from the "born in the usa" album Wish I had known about (or thought to include) the 12" mix of Daryl Hall's "Dreamtime" |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 03 March 2014 at 1:16pm
Curiously, what's the difference? My promo 45 has the album version on one side and the single version on the other. Both have listed times of 4:52. I've never noticed a difference...what should I be listening for? |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 03 March 2014 at 2:50pm
No Streisand "Way We Were," Gordon? :( |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 03 March 2014 at 3:17pm
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To Hykker:
The difference is the single version is mixed by Humberto Gatica. He is an outstanding mix engineer (just ask David Foster). Comparing the two, there are multiple subtle differences, such as more reverb on the single & a few echoed vocals. Andy |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 03 March 2014 at 5:15pm
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I don't see the team approving anything that is not a
substantial difference it and what is commonly available. I also do not see any Billy Joel single versions appearing on CD. I have a feeling BJ may have some say in it. ------------- |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 03 March 2014 at 6:38pm
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Digital 45s are a whole different matter, though. Consider "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes", whose single version has never been made available on CD but Rhino issued the mono 45 in digital format. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 04 March 2014 at 5:05am
| Gordon, best of luck with getting those single mixes released. I'm especially looking forward to the Billy Joel singles and the Springsteen 12" remixes. Please, keep us posted! |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 04 March 2014 at 9:57am
| Brian, Sony wouldn't even attempt to try to get the single version of "Way We Were" because they said Barbra Streisand and her manager are too hard to deal with. They also didn't want to try anything that's Neil Diamond (so no "On the Way to the Sky") because of difficulties (not so much with Neil but with his team). Billy Joel, Manilow & Springsteen also have a say in what comes out, but I guess they felt these were possible. Though, of these 3 artists, I'm not having high hopes that the Springsteen 12" mixes will come out because rumor is that Springsteen never liked these. |
Posted By: musicmanatl
Date Posted: 04 March 2014 at 6:26pm
| Gordon, thanks for the work in getting the single version of "Toy Soldiers" released on iTunes! I hope we'll see some more of the songs on your list released. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 04 March 2014 at 8:27pm
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Just noticed that the 21 Totally 80s Hits
collection on iTunes has 21 tracks, yet the same album on Rhapsody is labeled as 80 Totally 80's Hits. Anyone know why? Are they different collections? Both have a release date of March 3, 2014. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 04 March 2014 at 8:38pm
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Answering my own question, they are not the same but the
artwork is very similar. There is no Martika on the Rhapsody set which also contains many LP versions. |
Posted By: ptgraphics
Date Posted: 21 February 2015 at 11:47am
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FYI- 21 Totally 80s Hits is available on Pono in 44.1kHz/16bit.
Pat |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 21 February 2015 at 2:09pm
And it's only $12.99 for all 21 songs... not a bad deal! |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 21 February 2015 at 2:12pm
This is now available on Pono in 16-bit lossless. |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 06 August 2017 at 5:12pm
------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 06 August 2017 at 11:49pm
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No, it never came out and it won't. I was told that when Sony presented the idea to iTunes, iTunes said No to it - because they thought it would be too confusing to customers to have "single mixes" out and regular versions out.
Now, I'm guessing anyone reading this is stunned as I was when first hearing it ... as in, why does iTunes have a say (or seemingly, the final say) over what Sony puts out on iTunes? Even an independent artist can put up their own album on iTunes, through services like TuneCore - so why can't a big conglomerate like Sony? I'm as stunned as (I'm guessing) anyone reading this. First of all, I didn't even know that Sony had to run their ideas by iTunes. Maybe I'm not being given the fuller picture. But this is what I was told. I even asked my contact, "Can this really be? And how can iTunes dictate what Sony releases??" But once again I was told this is how it is. So all I can tell you is that these digital single mixes are not coming out - and we can only hope they will continue to come out here and there on CDs with bonus cuts - the way we later got Diana Ross's "So Close", for instance. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 06 August 2017 at 11:53pm
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And another puzzler about all this ... based on what iTunes apparently said, why would they care if a single mix and an album mix of a song were sold on iTunes? Wouldn't it mean more money for them if 2 versions were available? And by not putting out these single mixes, isn't that guaranteeing iTunes will make less money? What kind of business model is that?
The more I'm in this business, the more I'm puzzled about how it runs. You'd think it would make more sense over time, but for me, that's not the case. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 07 August 2017 at 11:55am
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Sean Ross recently had a column on Radio Insight called
"Songs You Wish Would Test." A hundred or so responses and many are songs that collectors have in their collections. I brought up to a radio programmer the idea that would a song test better if the single version or mix was tested vs. the LP versions we all hear on Classic Hits stations. His response was listeners don't care and are used to the LP versions they stream or listen to. I guess only us collectors care. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 07 August 2017 at 12:16pm
The bigger question is why don't the labels put up their own download sites? You'd think it would be a piece of cake, and given that most labels today are under one of a handful of corporate umbrellas, it would be an easy way to market. I refuse to install that intrusive bloatware called Itunes on my computer, and without it can't download songs from their website. Unfortunately, there aren't that many other legit sites, and so many seem to make exclusive deals with Apple. Fooey!
I'd have to agree with him. So many songs today (especially mid-60s into the 80s) the album version is the de facto hit, if you played the single (or for that matter the radio edit) people would think it was the "wrong" version. You're right, we collectors are pretty much the only ones who know or care. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 14 August 2020 at 10:35am
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I was surprised to notice today that Sony has placed a
digital mono single of Bobby Vinton's "Rain Rain Go Away" b/w/ "Over And Over" on iTunes. I don't know how long it's been there. A quick search did not unearth any similar singles, but hopefully this is the start of a trend. |
Posted By: Kevin711
Date Posted: 14 August 2020 at 9:18pm
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Paul C, thanks for the information on the Bobby Vinton
record. It's a nice addition to my collection that I just purchased from I-Tunes. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 15 August 2020 at 2:16pm
Thanks, Paul. It's also in lossless FLAC on 7Digital (but not yet on Qobuz for some reason). |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 05 September 2020 at 8:20am
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Over the last few weeks, I've searched for just about
every Sony 1960s hit, and "Rain Rain Go Away" is the only digital single I could find. Why Sony would issue only one such digital single and why this one is more than a bit puzzling. |