"Mr. Bojangles" - Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
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Topic: "Mr. Bojangles" - Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Posted By: Paul Haney
Subject: "Mr. Bojangles" - Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Date Posted: 15 January 2006 at 11:03am
I believe there were 2 different 45's issued for this title.
One with (which Pat notes as LP version) and one without the "Uncle Charlie" prelude.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 11:04am
my 45 (liberty 56197) has a stated run time of 5:15 AND includes the spoken intro for 1:38 and then the stereo song starts and runs 5:15 in total...
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Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 12:13pm
Both the RR 45 and my personal copy are the 5:15 version. Which begs the question, anyone here actually have the shorter 45 without the spoken part? I'm not sure if I've ever personally seen one but I've heard they do exist.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 6:58pm
Unfortunately, I just have the reissue (when it was reissued as an oldie 45) and it does not have the spoken part. I always assumed the original 45s were this same way. This was always the way I heard it on the radio.
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Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 10:24pm
The original 45 rpm was issued with Mr. Bojangles on both sides. Side A was the longer version with the spoken intro. The B side of it isn't just the same song with the spoken part lopped off, it actually has different instrumentation starting the song off, and may be different entirely but i've never compared the two side by side. On cd, however, i believe the true B side version has appeared on only one cd, while a few have the A side version without the spoken intro part.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 16 January 2006 at 11:32pm
Tom, do you recall which CD is the only one with the true B side of "Mr. Bojangles"? I don't recall this being in Pat's book, but it definitely seems like important info for it.
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Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 12:36pm
I had been sent an mp3 of the B side version a long time ago, I lost it in a computer crash two years ago and never had it sent to me after that, but i'm told that it is on "Super Hits of the 70's: Have a Nice Day, Vol. 4" on Rhino.
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Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 2:54pm
I was just sent an mp3 of the original LP version of the song with the spoken intro off of "Twenty Years Of Dirt: The Best Of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band", and then i was sent an mp3 of the version from the Curb label cd "Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Greatest Hits", and the Curb cd has the B side version. The song is essentially the same but if you listen to the opening notes of the song that follow the spoken intro, then listen to the opening notes of the Curb cd version, theyre clearly different, as they were on the original 45 too.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 11:20pm
I just did an A/B comparison of "Mr. Bojangles" on my copy of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's 20 Years of Dirt: The Best of CD to the 3:33 version I have on the group's Certified Hits disc (Capitol 34451) and I concur with TomDiehl1's conclusion that the acoustic guitar intros are definitely different. That being said, it looks like the Certified Hits disc contains the alleged 45 B-side version as well.
It's interesting to learn that the "Uncle Teddy and his dog Charlie" intro was included on at least some pressings of the 45 because, like EdisonLite, I've never once heard radio play "Mr. Bojangles" with this spoken intro. So this leads me to wonder... Do DJ 45 copies contain the LP version with the spoken intro simply chopped off, or do they feature the reworked version that supposedly appears on the commercial 45 B-side?
By the way, it's good to see some of the regulars from the Both Sides Now stereo oldies message board now posting here. Welcome aboard, guys!
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 11:29pm
Please forgive this total thread crap, but for some reason I keep imagining Cartman from "South Park" singing "Mr. Bojangles":
"Mistah Beeuuuuuu-jangles..."
I don't think he ever sang it on the show, so I don't know why I keep hearing that in my head, but it keeps making me laugh. (And, no, I haven't been drinking.)
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 9:20pm
I have ordered a dj copy of "Mr. Bojangles" and when I receive it, I will update everyone and change the database entries if necessary.
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 8:41pm
OK I have obtained the dj 45 of Mr. Bojangles and now I can try to explain the history of Mr. Bojangles. The dj copy does not indicate a "plug" side but one side is Mr. Bojangles with the Uncle Charlie prologue running (5:15) and the flip side is Mr. Bojangles with the Uncle Charlie prologue edited out running (3:35). There were 2 different commercial 45's of Mr. Bojangles. The first featured Mr. Bojangles with the Uncle Charlie prologue and a flip side titled "Uncle Charlie Interview #2/Spanish Fandango" which runs (2:30) not (2:36) as stated on the record label. The 2nd commercial 45 features Mr. Bojangles with the Uncle Charlie prologue but the flip side is an alternate take of Mr. Bojangles. When I tried to explain all of this in the "title comments" in the database I found that I exceeded the currently allowable character string length so I will have my programmer give me more space and eventually this explanation will appear in the "title comments" section.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 9:25pm
<The 2nd commercial 45 features Mr. Bojangles with the Uncle Charlie prologue but the flip side is an alternate take of Mr. Bojangles. >
So, Pat, in your opinion, what is the version on "Super Hits of the '70s, Vol. 4"? You formerly had labeled this the "45 version". Would you now consider this an alternate version, a radio version, or 1 (of 2) 45 versions?
I ask because I wasn't listening to radio in 1971, so if I want to use the version (i.e mix) that WAS played on the radio back then, would the mix on "Super Hits of the '70s" qualify?
(And I welcome anyone else's opinion on this matter, too.)
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 9:41pm
Thanks for the update, Pat. What I find most interesting about your findings is that the Uncle Charlie prologue appears on all commercial and DJ 45 copies, and yet I don't believe I've ever heard the prologue on the radio. (Granted, I wasn't around in 1971 to hear how Top 40 stations at the time were playing the song!)
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 2:18am
I, too, have never heard the Uncle Charlie Prologue on the radio, and though I wasn't listening to the radio in '71, I did start listening in '72.
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Posted By: Chris Quinn
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 2:59am
Back when this song was on the charts, we played both
sides of the DJ 45 at WIXY 1260 in Cleveland. The
longer version with the talk intro would get played
between 7PM and 6AM only, when time would allow for
such "extended" versions. I still have an original
DJ 45 in my collection. Can't really say how other
markets aired the record.
Chris Quinn
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Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 6:22am
Just look in the database for the answer to your question of how I now describe the version of Mr. Bojangles on the Rhino cd "Superhits of The 70's Vol. 4".
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 9:47pm
Can someone explain the difference in the guitar parts of the different intros? I'm comparing the intro of "Super Hits Vol. 4" with "Best Of" and it seems like the same notes are played on both versions, to me.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 1:01am
Tom Diehl -- what is the difference that you heard in the guitar intro parts between the Curb CD and the "Twenty Years of Dirt" CD? I assume my "Super Hits vol. 4" CD and "Best Of" contain these 2 different recordings as well, and I can't hear the difference, but since you're the only one on the board that's pointed out there's a difference in those guitar parts, I was hoping you could elaborate.
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Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:14am
It is literally just a 4 second difference. Download the following mp3 (right click on it to download is necessary):
http://www.angelfire.com/md3/tomdiehl1/ngdb.mp3 - NGDB a/b
I synced up the guitar intros from the Twenty Years Of Dirt cd (right channel, this had to be speed corrected as it ran faster in speed), and the Super Hits Of the 70's: Have A Nice Day Vol. 4 cd (left channel)....and i made an mp3 of just the first couple seconds of the song as that is where the difference is...
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 11:00am
Thanks Tom! Interesting -- amazing that you caught that. Those parts are played so closely that I don't think anyone would catch that unless they made an mp3 of each version on one channel and then listened! Other than the fact that it's not mono and then becomes a mono recording as soon as the vocals click in, it's really hard to tell that they're not the same -- with the exception that one of the versions has an extra guitar strum on beat 3, and the other version does not. And what's interesting about that is that neither my "Super Hits Vol. 4" (which contains the B-side version) nor my "Best Of" (EMI America CDP 7 46591 2, which contains the long version with "Uncle Charlie" prologue) -- have an extra guitar strum on Beat 3! Could the Curb version be unique? Also, in the mp3 you made, did you use the left channels of both recordings, the right channels of both, or make mono versions of both recordings first before creating this mp3?
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 11:08am
Also, which version contains the extra guitar strum on beat 3? It's on the right channel of your mp3 in case anyone wants to click on your link to hear what this is. Since I'm not hearing this on Super Hits Vol.4, which therefore seems to be the same as the long version with "Uncle Charlie" prologue, is the Super Hits version actually just an edit of the A-Side and not the unique B-side version, as was suggested in an earlier post?
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Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 11:55am
Here is what I did:
The version from "Twenty Years Of Dirt" was folded to mono and put into the right channel. The version from "Super Hits Of The 70's: Have A Nice Day Vol. 4" was folded to mono and put into the left channel. During that time I had two versions of Adobe Audition open (one with each version) and was playing both at the same time to hear the total playing time difference of just the song. Overall, for just the song, the Twenty Years Of Dirt version was sped up by about 3 seconds. So I slowed it down and synced it up to the other version that i had open in my 2nd copy of Adobe Audition.
If you listen in headphones, you will hear that there is a guitar strum on not just beat 3, but beat 1 as well. That is in the version of the song with the Uncle Charlie introduction, as found on the Twenty Years Of Dirt cd, and that is the same as is on my copy of the 45. The Curb cd contains the exact recording as found on the B side of my 45, without the guitar strums on beats 1 and 3.
If I'm reading your last message correctly, are you saying that there is a cd with the Uncle Charlie prologue tacked on to the B side version of the song somewhere on cd ??
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Posted By: BradOlson
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 11:59am
Tom Diehl is right in regards to the Curb Greatest Hits CD and the Twenty Years of Dirt CD on Warner Bros.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 5:20pm
Tom, yes now I hear the extra guitar strums on beat 1 as well as beat 3 of the intro in your mp3 sample.
<If I'm reading your last message correctly, are you saying that there is a cd with the Uncle Charlie prologue tacked on to the B side version of the song somewhere on cd ??>
Yes, exactly. On "Best Of" (EMI America CDP 7 46591 2, which contains the long version with "Uncle Charlie" prologue), there are no extra guitar strums on beats 1 & 3, so therefore, they took the B-side version and tacked it onto the Uncle Charlie prologue, and therefore this is not the "LP version with prologue" as is indicated in the 10th edition of Pat's book.
The only other place I have this song is on the CD "Rock Me Gently". Pat lists this as alternate take in the 10th edition book. This HAS the extra strums on beats 1 & 3. (Also, it's sped up much faster). So I wonder if a better description for the database/book (instead of "alternate take") is something along the lines of the "dj B-side". Pat, were there other reasons that made this an alternate take? I didn't listen closely or A-B. I just noticed the strums added, and the faster pitch, on a casual listen.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 5:51pm
While on the subject of this song, I noticed that my CDs of this song have a distortion and crackly sound during the loud parts of this song, and my guess is that this is caused by all the years of playing the master tape for the various pressings. But does anyone with "audiophile" ears know -- is there a CD of this song that doesn't contain that distortion/crackle?
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 9:56pm
MMathews (who contributes to this board) filled me in on what's going on here. Pat you'll probably want to take notes for the database. Turns out the version with the extra guitar strums is a remix done many years later.
MMathews writes --
there was a remix done when they were signed to Warner and it appeared on the album "20 years of dirt". "American Dream" was also remixed, by the way. Years ago i was less fussy about the sound and prefered the orig. mix of Bojangles for the wider stereo. But the Warner remix was very clean sounding. This question now had me curious to hear the Warner remix again. I never actualy compared them side by side, interesting. The intro has an extra acoustic guitar "strum" you can hear that is not audible in the original mix. Back then i thought it just had the complete strum and on the original it was clipped off, but i can hear now it's actually an overdub that was not present originally. On this newer mix, both guitars in the old intro are together on one channel, with this extra strum in the left channel. On the original the 2 from the right channel are simply mixed left/right, and that extra strum guitar is mixed out (or was recorded later). After the intro, all tracks used are the original tracks as recorded, just placed differently in the mix. They also EQ'd it more modern sounding, less mid-rangy. More 70's sounding, less 60's. Also, the remix was sped up a tad. (i only noticed this because i had to re-pitch it to drop it into a track to do a left/right synch comparison.)
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 10:02pm
Actually Pat, you probably have nothing to change. What you called "alternate mix" on "Rock Me Gently" is exactly that.
In summary, I think there are 3 versions of this song on CD:
alternate mix
original mix with prologue
original mix without prologue*
*=on vinyl, this version is only found on the B-side promo
Is that an accurate summary?
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Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 02 February 2007 at 11:32pm
Hi Edison,
I had no idea this topic was going on when you emailed me about this track. I hadn't the remixed "20 Years Of Dirt" version in years, it was the only place i had heard the alternate mix, so I assumed it was made just for that album.
Then i went in to to see the database listing, and i noticed Pat lists the "Dirt" version accurately as a remix. Then i saw the one on "Rock Me Gently" listed as "alternate take".
I came in hear so i could point out to Pat that [as i just learned] the version on "Rock Me Gently" is the same remixthat is on "20 Years Of Dirt" - it's just sped up even more.
I ripped it from "Rock Me Gently" Cd, pitched it down and re-eq it (restoring the hi-end) and what you hear is the very same alternate mix.
So, since Pat is saying this mix was on the B-side of the 45, I'd assume it does pre-date the "20 Years" comp.
On that comp, as Tom D. asked, they took the Uncle Charlie prologue and tacked it onto this other mix.
So, i guess there's no alternate take, just 2 different mixes. Seems like one is the LP mix, intended to include the prologue.
The other seems to be intended as the 45 mix, which includes that minor extra acoustic guitar strum overdub in the intro, left channel. And seems this alternate, perhaps 45 mix is floating around in various speeds.
I pitched the Cd rip down to match the speed of the LP version and it now times out at 3:35.
Hope any of this helps!
-Mark M
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 February 2007 at 12:37am
I'm thoroughly confused on this one, but I have only ever heard (and only own) the 3:34 version on 70's Hits Vol. 2 (Curb 77356)...
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 February 2007 at 2:14am
Sorry to add to the confusion (and believe me, I'm confused, too) but it appears there are now 4 versions of this song. According to Tom Diehl, the only difference between his 2 versions are:
<It is literally just a 4 second difference. >
After that the recordings converge exactly. (Note one of the recordings has the 2 guitar strums in the intro.) And listening to his A-B link, they do converge after the intro.
But MMathews has a recording with 2 guitar strums in the intro yet the rest of the song is mixed differently than the A-side 45.
Pat, it looks like we're going to need your help here, since you have 2 different 45s including the promo 45 and the various CDs. Can your report your findings here? Are there 2 versions with the extra guitar strums in the intro -- one that only differs in the intro (as shown in Tom Diehl's recent A-B link) and one that has a different mix throughout, as described by MMathews as on "20 Years of Dirt"? And which of these (if either) is on the one dj 45 that has a 3:35 B-Side?
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 03 February 2007 at 2:18am
On a completely unrelated note, Pat, whenever I post a note during the 6 months of Daylight Savings time, it always lists the time as an hour ahead of time. For instance, my last post says it was at 2:14 a.m. but it's 1:14 a.m. here. Does this only happen to people on the west coast? And then, why is it correct during the other 6 months of the year? Is it possible to fix this for future posts -- not that this is a major thing....
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Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 03 February 2007 at 6:51am
As Tom Diehl firmly plants his foot in his mouth......
I just played my 45 of the song on both sides.....it isn't as I remember it from years ago (it's been maybe 7 years since I've played the 45)......the B side appears to be exactly the same as the A side, except without the prologue.
I suppose I should've done that first, as I was simply going by memory. But the 20 Years Of Dirt version IS an obvious remix (and i should've clarified, that while the biggest difference was in the first 4 seconds, it is a definite different mix of the song entirely with louder drums on it, at least).
It seems to me that there are in fact 4 versions of this song out there:
Stock/promo 45 A side (with prologue)
Stock/promo 45 B side (no prologue)
Remix with prologue
Remix without prologue
So that begs me to ask the question, what version was on the original LP ? The A side 45 version with the prologue ??
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 14 March 2009 at 9:26am
EdisonLite wrote:
While on the subject of this song, I noticed that my CDs of this song have a distortion and crackly sound during the loud parts of this song, and my guess is that this is caused by all the years of playing the master tape for the various pressings. But does anyone with "audiophile" ears know -- is there a CD of this song that doesn't contain that distortion/crackle? |
I very recently picked up the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's Uncle Charlie and His Dog Teddy CD (Capitol 41721) and I too notice the distortion and crackling during the song's louder passages. It sounds like some of the instruments and possibly the vocals may have been overmodulated during the recording session. That said, I'm wondering if this is the ultimate reason why the song was later remixed with cleaner sound?
Also, I know I asked this question previously in this thread, but for any of our esteemed DJ veterans here on the board who was spinning "Mr Bojangles" on the airwaves back in 1971... Did your station play the full version with the "Uncle Charlie and His Dog Teddy" spoken prologue? Chris Quinn reports his station only played this version between 7 p.m. and 6 a.m.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 17 February 2010 at 7:31pm
Confusing, but I think I have this sorted out. Someone correct me if anything I'm about to say is wrong.
I know at least one version of the black-label Liberty 45 had the prologue, although I no longer have my beat-up childhood copy. I'm pretty sure the LP had the prologue, too, since that was the name of the album. Same mix, only with a prologue tacked onto the front. Fair to say that most radio stations probably skipped past the prologue, be it from LP, promo 45, or commercial 45.
So I consider the "hit" version to be the one on Have A Nice Day Vol. 4, which runs 3:34. Muddy/distorted mix, no prologue.
Any CD that has the song running around 3:34 is the original mix, minus the prologue.
Any CD that has the song running around 5:13 is the original mix, with the prologue.
For the 1986 album Twenty Years Of Dirt, they remixed the song, as was the fashion at the time. (Like the Monkees' "Daydream Believer" - ouch! - and Steve Hoffman's new mixes of the Steppenwolf hits from the Vintage Music CDs.) The remix includes two new guitar strums on beats 1 and 3 on the intro, which were presumably mixed out of the original mix.
Any CD that has the song running around 5:02 has this remix, with the prologue. I have it running 5:09 on Time-Life's Singers And Songwriters - 1970-1971 (2000). It's a tiny bit faster than than the original mix, and is about 2-3 seconds shorter in the non-prologue portion as a result.
Any CD that has the song running 3:23 is the new remix, minus the prologue, and sped WAY up. It has the same new strums on beats 1 and 3. I have it on Madacy's Rock On - 1971, where it runs about 5 seconds shorter than the comparable part of Singers And Songwriters - 1970-1971. Aside from the drastic pitch difference, it's the same performance/mix as the Singers And Songwriters version.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 18 February 2010 at 6:38am
Todd Ireland wrote:
Also, I know I asked this question previously in this thread, but for any of our esteemed DJ veterans here on the board who was spinning "Mr Bojangles" on the airwaves back in 1971... Did your station play the full version with the "Uncle Charlie and His Dog Teddy" spoken prologue? |
To answer your year-old question, in 1971 I was a weekender at a small-market station in northern New England. I don't recall the PD indicating which was the "preferred" version, but most of the djs seemed to stick with the short version. Other (more structured) stations in larger markets in the area played the short version exclusively.
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 23 February 2010 at 2:30pm
When I worked at WATO Radio in Oak Ridge, TN, the short
version was normally mandated. Exception was me if I needed
to change the FM automation tapes or do some repairs since
I was also assistant engineer and physically challenged.
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 5:07pm
was there ever a commercial 45 released stating on the
label a time OTHER than 5:15?
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 6:01pm
edtop40 wrote:
was there ever a commercial 45 released stating on the label a time OTHER than 5:15? |
Not among the three stock copies I have, Ed:
Shelley styrene pressing, east coast
Plastic Products vinyl pressing, central
Allied styrene pressing, west coast
"5:15" on all three (and "3:35" on the flips.)
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 20 January 2014 at 8:43am
So can the prologue on S&S: 1970-71 be tacked on to any existing version to create the correct (5:15) version?
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 29 January 2014 at 9:48am
Sorry to bump this, but I do want to revisit this. Can the prologue from the T-L Singers & Songwriters 1970-71 CD be used to create the long 45 version, or is that also part of the alternate mix?
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Posted By: collectahit
Date Posted: 29 May 2017 at 3:42pm
The alternate version of "Mr. Bojangles" that appears
on some B-sides of the 45 was also released on the
2006 Fuel CD "An Introduction to the Nitty Gritty Dirt
Band."
I had never heard this version, nor had heard of it,
until I recently purchased this budget CD. I had
wrongly assumed that this B-side version was the hit
take with the Uncle Charlie monologue edited out.
Thanks to you guys for explaining why the first part
of the song sounds like an alternate take, but the
rest of the song sounds like the hit version (at least
it does to me).
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Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 30 May 2017 at 3:01pm
BTW, on my copy of the Twenty Years Of Dirt CD this song runs longer than the (5:02) listed in the database. My copy is Warner Brothers 25382 where it runs (5:09).
------------- Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 06 July 2017 at 6:07pm
Hykker wrote:
Todd Ireland wrote:
Also, I know I
asked this question previously in this thread, but for any
of our esteemed DJ veterans here on the board who was
spinning "Mr Bojangles" on the airwaves back in 1971...
Did your station play the full version with the "Uncle
Charlie and His Dog Teddy" spoken prologue? |
To answer your year-old question, in 1971 I was a
weekender at a small-market station in northern New
England. I don't recall the PD indicating which was the
"preferred" version, but most of the djs seemed to stick
with the short version. Other (more structured) stations
in larger markets in the area played the short version
exclusively.
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I was encouraged to play the short side without prologue.
However, at WATO 1290 in Oak Ridge, TN I was allowed to
play the long side with prologue when I needed to change
the Automation tapes on the WUUU 94.3 FM sister on the
other end of the building, or do other work on the FM
side, also this was done due to me being a physically
challenged operator/engineering assistant. I got to
sometimes play album cuts due to the above reasons if I
was on air.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 13 January 2019 at 10:34am
9 years after my original post, I have only one tiny detail to add:
The versions running 3:24, plus or minus a second, are the 1986 Twenty Years Of Dirt remix, with the prologue edited out, and sped up by 1.4%.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 13 January 2019 at 4:22pm
To add to the discussion from years back, I've never heard
anything but the 3:34 version. Nobody plays this song on
the radio anymore but when I heard it it was the 3:34
version.
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 15 January 2019 at 12:17am
Great analysis (after the initial confusion) regarding the sped-up
remix of this track. I agree, not an "alternate take".
Anyone have the 1976 UA LP "Dirt, Silver & Gold". According to
discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band-Dirt-
Silver-Gold/release/2368887), it contains the two songs running a
total of 5:03, which is much shorter than the original issue. Might
that be the remix, or just faster, or a misprint?
------------- dc1
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 22 January 2019 at 5:48pm
eriejwg wrote:
Nobody plays this song on
the radio anymore but when I heard it it was the 3:34
version. |
Hard to imagine it's not played on radio stations that focus on '70s music ... or Sirius XM's 70s channel. I haven't really noticed one way or the other, but I can't believe it's been too many years that I haven't heard this on some oldies radio station.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 January 2019 at 10:55pm
Sirius played the song on the Bridge on January 21st. The
last time they played it on 70s on 7 was in mid December
of 2018.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 23 January 2019 at 10:09am
eriejwg wrote:
The last time they played it on 70s on 7 was in mid December of 2018. |
How do you find that out?
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 23 January 2019 at 2:24pm
sriv94 wrote:
How do you find that out? |
Sign up for a free account at xmfan.com. It's mainly a
listener based chat forum. Once Ryan approves your
account, login and look for the AudioLibrary search on
the left side of the screen. Search by title or artist.
I select to search by 'Time' once you get to the second
screen to search again. It should list the most recent
'time' and date a song was played and on what channel.
Another helpful site is xmplaylist.com.
I used to search on dogstarradio.com but their search
yields multiples of a song or artist on the same channel
and often songs that aren't even being played.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 02 February 2019 at 9:00pm
I remember using that search on xmfan.com years ago. It was quite helpful.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 03 February 2019 at 9:08am
xmplaylist.com was an awesome recent discovery though they
don't have a search function. It seems something's wrong
on that site as they haven't tracked what songs have aired
on the channels for over a week now.
As mentioned, I used to search on dogstarradio.com but
their search yields multiples of a song or artist on the
same channel and often songs that aren't even being
played.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 07 September 2020 at 10:44pm
The original mix of "Mr. Bojangles", on "Super Hits of the '70s" vol. 4" has a bit of distortion on some loud spots. (It's not on the alternate mix at all). I asked this question years ago, but does anyone know of a real clean version of "Mr. Bojangles" (original mix - whether with Uncle Charlie or without - that has no distortion? I kind of doubt that the original master has this distortion but you never know.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 September 2020 at 9:54am
I have it on their Best Of as well. Sounds nice there.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 08 September 2020 at 2:26pm
I believe that the distortion is there on the two-track mixdown tape.
Listen around 2:34 and there's a little distortion in the mix. It's there on Have A Nice Day Vol. 4, and also on Best Of.
I doubt that there's any version of the original mix that lacks the distortion.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 08 September 2020 at 2:46pm
That's too bad. It's not on the multi-track because the alt mix doesn't have it. But the alt mix isn't nearly as good as the hit version. Too bad the 2-track stereo master was mixed so hot, and thus, with distortion.
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