mary hopkin those were the days
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Topic: mary hopkin those were the days
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: mary hopkin those were the days
Date Posted: 23 April 2012 at 4:53pm
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my commercial 45 for the mary hopkin song "those we're the
days" issued as apple 1801 states the run time on the label as 5:05 but actually runs 5:07 like one of the db entries.....this 45 run time info s/b added to the db... ------------- edtop40 |
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 12:22am
| Was a shorter radio edit of Mary Hopkin's "Those Were the Days" ever issued on a promo 45? Otherwise, I would think many program directors in 1968 would've balked at adding such a lengthy record by a then-unknown artist to their Top 40 station playlists. Granted, I realize Mary Hopkin was a new acquisition to the Beatles' Apple label at the time so I imagine that probably gave her record a lot of sway right there. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 4:51am
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No. As a matter of fact, Todd, it was the very first 45 on Apple (#1801), so
you're right about all the "Beatles' custom label hoopla" that went along with this song's release. Its length was simply not an issue in 1968. |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 7:31am
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In August of 1968, Capitol Records sent press kits out to radio stations across the U.S. That kit consisted of the first four Apple 45s: "Hey Jude/Revolution" by The Beatles (Apple 2276), "Thingumybob/Yellow Submarine" by John Foster & Sons Ltd. Black Dyke Mills Band (Apple 1800), "Those Were The Days/Turn, Turn, Turn" by Mary Hopkin (Apple 1801) and "Sour Milk Sea/The Eagle Laughs At You" by Jackie Lomax (Apple 1802). All four singles were released to the general public on the same day (August 26, 1968).
Bruce Spizer's excellent book, The Beatles on Apple Records has the full story. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 7:38am
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Thanks, Paul. Very enlightening. I had no idea of the press kit, and did not
know of an Apple 1800 45 release; I am normally fairly versed on such matters. (PS-I haven't received that Spizer book yet; it's on order!) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 8:49am
| Great stuff, gentlemen. Thanks! |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 9:11am
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Never heard or saw a short version of this on vinyl, maybe
some stations made house edits of it. I do have, somewhere (I believe a bonus track on a "New Gold On CD" disc) an edit of TWTD. It's a very abrupt edit. I don't ever recall seeing a designated promo copy of any early Apple 45s, just stock copies. Jim, you're even more of a promo-copy collector than I am...have you seen any prior to 1970 or so (the earliest one in my collection is James Taylor's "Carolina In My Mind")? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 9:48am
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Steve, you're right - I really do go after the promo 45s (as well as the stocks.)
But I think I'd need to start work on a research thesis, to try to sort out Apple Records' mindset on issuing promo 45s. (As well as Capitol Records in general, from '64 to '69 or so. I'm hoping that the Beatles' book Paul Haney recommends will shed more light on it for me.) As it was a lower charter, I likely wouldn't have paid the premium price for an Apple promo 45 of "Carolina On My Mind", even if I'd ever seen one. I believe the earliest definite Apple promo 45 I own, that specifically says "Not For Sale" on it, is early 1971's "Another Day" by Paul McCartney. And the whole "starred stock 45's equalling a quasi-promo 45" issue adds still more intrigue. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 29 June 2013 at 4:33pm
I didn't (and probably wouldn't) buy the James Taylor 45...it was a throwaway from a station I worked at in the early 70s. As far as Capitol promos, I don't think they issued any from '63 or so until late '66...if so I've never seen one. I have a couple from late '66 that are dark blue type on a light blue label, shortly thereafter they went to the yellowish-green labels we all know and love. |
jimct wrote:Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 15 December 2024 at 10:49pm
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There were several English language mixes of this, as a
"Version 2" I just got showed (frankly, I love this so much I would not mind if it had still a longer version with more verses. But I digress..) Glad to see a topic on a favorite late 60s US hit! And so unique in many ways,too! ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 16 December 2024 at 5:51pm
Steve, Glad to see you are still around. Been working on the 60's myself. There is always something new to discuss for the 60's hits... ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 22 December 2024 at 9:00am
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On "New Gold on CD" 2/11/1991 it's edited down to 4:01 and
sounds like it was sourced from vinyl. There's a very abrupt edit at 2:05. |
Posted By: Steve Carras
Date Posted: 11 January 2025 at 10:13pm
Thank you..:) ------------- You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney. |