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Topic: romantics "one in a million"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: romantics "one in a million"
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 5:43pm
pat

you might want to make an revision to you entry for the
above song

the 45 is a remix and runs 3:40 even though it states
3:14 on the label

the 45 says "mixed by john "jellybean" benitez"

the 45 and the cd version from "what i like about you
(and other romantic hits)" are very different

edtop40



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Posted By: Jeff H.
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 1:41am
Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

pat

you might want to make an revision to you entry for the above song

the 45 is a remix and runs 3:14

the 45 says "mixed by john "jellybean" benitez"

the 45 and the cd version from "what i like about you (and other romantic hits)" are very different

edtop40



Sounds like the 45 you have is an edit of the dance mix done by Jellybean which IIRC runs 5:28 in its entirety. The "In Heat" album has the original mix.


Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 27 February 2006 at 9:56am
what does "IIRC" mean???

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edtop40


Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 27 February 2006 at 10:08am
Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

what does "IIRC" mean???


If I remember correctly


Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 27 February 2006 at 5:44pm
does the dance mix appear anywhere on cd???

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edtop40


Posted By: Jeff H.
Date Posted: 27 February 2006 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

does the dance mix appear anywhere on cd???


Not that I know of.


Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 06 January 2015 at 5:17am
Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

pat

you might want to make an revision to you entry for the above song

the 45 is a remix and runs 3:14

the 45 says "mixed by john "jellybean" benitez"

the 45 and the cd version from "what i like about you (and other romantic hits)" are very different

edtop40

Originally posted by abagon abagon wrote:

ROMANTICS - "One In a Million"

The acutial commercial 45 running time is (3:40), the listed time is "3:14" on the record label. (Nemperor ZS4 04373)

Along w/ using the descriptor "(LP version)" for all eight of this song's appearances on CD to date, Pat currently states in the db:

1984 ONE IN A MILLION (the actual 45 running time is (3:40) not (3:14) as stated on the record label)

Okay, I'm a little confused here. At the beginning of this thread, edtop40 implies that his 45 of "One in a Million" has an actual time of (3:14). Meanwhile, over in another thread that he later started for this same song http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4136&KW=romantics - here , abagon reported that his 45 has an actual time of (3:40). However, there doesn't seem to be any dispute that the 45 version was a remix, and thus differs from the LP version...

This begs the following:

1) Are there truly two different commercial pressings of this 45 w/ actual run times of (3:14) & (3:40), or back in '06 did edtop40 simply report the printed time on his copy by mistake???

2) If the (3:14) run time is a mistake, and all commercial copies actually run (3:40) (as Pat currently indicates in his db notes), then that would make the 45 identical in length to the version found on its original 1983 parent album, In Heat. Now please correct me if I'm wrong, but in the case of 45 & LP versions being identical in length yet different mixes, doesn't Pat normally use the terms "(45 mix)" or "(LP mix)" for the CD descriptors??? Yet as I noted above, he uses the term "(LP version)" for all CD appearances of this song instead. And...

3) Again, if the (3:14) run time on commercial copies is a mistake, then where might that timing come from??? Could it be the length of a dj edit that appeared on the white-label promo, which Nemperor/CBS transferred as a printed time to the stock copies by mistake??? Does anybody here have a white-label promo of Nemperor 04373, who can double check??? There aren't currently any photos of the white-label promo for "One in a Million" on either Discogs or 45cat, but a check on eBay shows at least three copies currently up for grabs, w/ this one being the cheapest, as well as having the best photo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VG-THE-ROMANTICS-ONE-IN-A-MILLION-1983-45-RPM-NEMPEROR-RECORDS-ZS4-04373-PROMO-/370788069662?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item5654b0f11e - THE ROMANTICS - "One in a Million" (U.S. promo 45) Note that it has a printed time of "3:14" as well - accurate??? Perhaps the (3:40) commercial version is on the flip side (alas, none of the eBay sellers show photos of BOTH sides of the promo 45)???


Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 06 January 2015 at 9:10am
My U.S. commercial 45 states a time of (3:14) but actually runs (3:40). Both the label and the picture cover claim "Mixed by John "JELLYBEAN" Benitez". I"ve made only a casual comparison between my 45 and a download I purchased a number of years ago (Unfortunately, I've lost track of which album the download is from, but I believe it was Super Hits). Between the download and my 45, there are differences in the positioning of the instruments within the stereo spectrum, but I do not detect any vocals or instrumentation in one that is not present in the other.

Ed states that his 45 runs (3:14) and is very different than the LP version; so it would appear that there are two different 45s (one very different than the LP version and one that is only different depending on one's definition of the word "mix") but that all have the same label.

The matrix of my 45 is "AA ZS4 04373-3". The final '3' suggests to me that this is not the first pressing.


Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 06 January 2015 at 12:10pm
Here is what I can clarify regarding "One In A Million". My timing comes from my white label dj 45 with the same matrix number as reported above by Paul. The label states (3:14) (on both sides) and runs (3:40) (on both sides) and in my opinion there are significant differences such as echo on the drums and I believe different instrumentation in places between the 45 and LP "In Heat" to warrant a "version" comment versus "mix". The only remaining question is were there two different pressings of the 45 such that one pressing actually did run (3:14).


Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 07 January 2015 at 5:21am
i just went back and re-timed my commercial 45 issued
nemperor 04373 and though it lists a run time on the label
as 3:14 it clearly runs 3:40.....i don't know why my
original post from 2006 says other wise....but i will
correct it...

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edtop40


Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 07 January 2015 at 6:07am
Thanks for the additional info, Paul C, Pat, and edtop40. I'm now convinced there was only one 45 version - running (3:40) - and it looks like all of my other questions have been answered as well. Thanks for taking the time, guys!



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