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Topic: chicago "wishing you were here"
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: chicago "wishing you were here"
Date Posted: 13 February 2006 at 9:01pm
pat

the actual run time of the 45 is 4:34 and NOT 4:26 as stated of the 45's label..

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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 21 February 2012 at 11:59pm
The database currently states the following general comment for Chicago's "Wishing You Were Here":

(dj copies of this 45 ran (2:54) and (4:26); commercial copies were all (4:34) not (4:26) as stated on the record label)

Given the discrepancy between the printed and actual commercial 45 times, I suspect that the long DJ 45 length of 4:26 is probably the printed label time but not the actual run time. And considering the lone database CD appearance of the short DJ edit runs 2:59, it's very possible the database's listed 2:54 time for the short DJ 45 side is inaccurate as well. So does anyone have a copy of the "Wishing You Were Here" DJ 45 who can report the actual run time of both sides?


Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 22 February 2012 at 2:19pm
DJ 45 actual timings:

short version (3:03) (2:54 listed)

long version (4:34) (4:26 listed)


Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 February 2012 at 3:42pm
Thanks, Yah Shure!


Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 22 February 2012 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:


short version (3:03) (2:54 listed)


Mine timed out to 3:00 exactly.


Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 22 February 2012 at 8:13pm
Steve, I just double-checked mine and it still came out to 3:03. That's with the fade-in and fade-out maximized in the wav editor to pinpoint the exact start and end; however, for all practical purposes - i.e. carting it up for radio play in 1974 - 3:00 would be the more realistic figure.

Perhaps there's a difference in the promo pressings. Mine's a http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/Chicago-WishingYouWereHereshortDJ.jpg - Terre Haute copy , although its typical "TI" designation is etched only on the long version side of this one.


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 22 February 2012 at 10:47pm
I created a file running 3:03 using the 40th Anniversary
short version and part of the intro/the ending from the
longer version.


Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 6:43am
Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:


Perhaps there's a difference in the promo pressings. Mine's a http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/Chicago-WishingYouWereHereshortDJ.jpg - Terre Haute copy , although its typical "TI" designation is etched only on the long version side of this one.


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff73/hykker/wywh-1.jpg - My copy does seem to be from another plant..."short version" is in a different font, and the "black sun" (or whatever that is) is in a different place. Then again since both the surf intro and the sustained ending fade slowly, maybe the :03 difference just gets lost in surface noise (surface noise on a Columbia single...who 'da thunk? ).

Not up on my pressing plant codes, but mine has a TMS-S stamped in the run-out area on the short version side and TMS-M on the long version. Both sides are stereo.


Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 26 February 2012 at 7:50am
TMS I think is actually TML (The Mastering Lab) mastering studios in California. S and M are lathe codes. Doug Sax being their best known mastering engineer.

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