"Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald"
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Topic: "Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald"
Posted By: sriv94
Subject: "Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald"
Date Posted: 14 February 2006 at 8:06am
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Here's another one for the class.
When I started trying to make homemade edits about a year ago, one of the first ones I attempted was Gordon Lightfoot's "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald." And I created a pretty seamless edit, however, I'm not sure whether or not I put the edit in the right place. I do know the edit occurs somewhere in the longer instrumental passage (which starts at about (4:45) of the LP version)--at least, I think it does. Anyone able to shed some light? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 14 February 2006 at 2:57pm
| I've wonderered that too... Maybe someone can send us an MP3 of a 45 dub... |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 8:03am
| Give me some time and i'll find the one I did about five years ago. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 1:55am
| I have a TM Century edit in my collection. I cannot say if it's correct or not, because my actual 45 is packed away in Michigan. |
Posted By: Paul Esch
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 9:27am
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The 45 edit for the song is at approximately the 4:43 mark; just
cut out the instrumental break from 4:43 to 4:59. Then hack off the end of the track from 5:56 on (before the instrumental riff repeats), and put in a gradual-to-steep fade from 5:45 to the end. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 12:15pm
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Thanks, Paul. I'll give it a go later this week and see how I do. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: JasonJeffries
Date Posted: 21 February 2006 at 10:54am
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Thank you Paul for the edit tip - it came out great. ------------- - JJ |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 17 July 2009 at 12:53pm
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Turns out that I have a 45 single. It's also in nice condition (only been played 4 times on audiophile gear). I can dub that 45. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 August 2012 at 2:35pm
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Although not noted in the database, an earlier promo 45 was issued for "Wreck" that contains the 5:57 commercial 45 version (stereo/mono). In the runout groove of the mono side, it reads "RPS-1369 TCN-0135-DJ LW1".
The shorter 5:23 edit is designated by "RE1" in the runout groove. Also, the record label indicates "RE1" on the mono side and "RE1S" on the stereo side. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 17 August 2012 at 5:06pm
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To Aaron:
What is the difference between the 5:23 & the 5:57 versions? Andy |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 August 2012 at 12:05am
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Andy, there are several additional edits in the 5:23 version. Mainly, all of the instrumental sections (except the intro) have been shortened. For instance, one bar of music has been edited out between each of the lines in the first verse. It appears that they kept all of the verses/lyrics intact, though, and only edited out instrumental passages to get it to an actual 5:22. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 18 August 2012 at 8:36am
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To Aaron:
Wow. I don't think I've ever heard it. Does anyone have a dub of the short promo handy (or a recreation)? Andy |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 August 2012 at 8:49am
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Andy, I just send you a dub of the 45. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Kiefer2
Date Posted: 21 January 2017 at 8:24pm
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Maybe I'm going crazy, but I hear an extra drum hit in the DJ edit after the 4:43 cut. On this video it seems like the instrumental after the cut begins with three drumbeats. (It's almost like the last 3 drum hits before the edit are repeated and then the instrumental starts).When I use the instructions above all I get is 2 drumbeats where on the video it sounds like 3 to me and can't be made with the simple edit above. Am I wrong (I've been wrong before!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgphyofnzTQ |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 22 January 2017 at 12:04am
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The YouTube video sounds to me like the correct single version. If you put your edit at 4:43, you're probably about a second too early. I'm pretty sure the edit point is on the first beat of the instrumental passage, just after the drum fill. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Kiefer2
Date Posted: 22 January 2017 at 2:31am
| That's it-knew I could count on you! |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 23 January 2017 at 4:48am
| The Rhino Digital 45 of this song with the 45 version is available on Qobuz in flac format. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 23 January 2017 at 9:40am
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The DJ edit was creatively done. I ended up purchasing
what turned out to be a cracklefest promo 45 several years ago but was able to recreate it. If you take the .flac 45 version and recreate it then no doubt it will sound amazing. |
Posted By: Scott Young
Date Posted: 23 January 2017 at 2:48pm
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This thread inspired me to try my own radio edit, with
the goal of making a 5 minute version without dropping any lyrics. I took an approach similar to the 5:23 version. There are several places where there's a measure of instrumental between the lines of lyrics in the verses. Those can all come out, and then the instrumental breaks can be shortened. I think the trick to making it work is to avoid using hard cuts. All of my edits are crossfades created in multitrack. A lot of the edits would've been impossible to pull off with hard cuts. Once all the editing was done the running time was about 5:05. The oldies station I do production for (KISN) hasn't been playing the song until now, just because it's so long and dreary. I know a lot of stations played the full commercial version as a current and it was a big hit, but I can't help thinking 6+ minutes of it might be a bit of a tuneout today. |
Posted By: radiofan16
Date Posted: 24 January 2017 at 4:58pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqeM2s1W3v0 - Here's the 5:23
version |
Posted By: radiofan16
Date Posted: 22 June 2024 at 3:57am
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The 5:23 version has been re-uploaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQvKS7YGNJs - The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald(45 version) |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 06 July 2024 at 1:27pm
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Funny looking back over this post,
In Houston all the top 40 stations played the promo 45, and that was the only copy I ever had of the song. Chop the 6:27 LP version down to 5:57, then further to 5:23. Basically 30 second cuts for 45 and promo. The 2 AOR stations played the LP version. I can't remember ever hearing the single release ever played in Houston. |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 10 July 2024 at 8:56am
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At the risk of veering OT...this song, as much as I love it,
will haunt me forever. When I was on Jeopardy, this Final Jeopardy clue stumped all 3 of us. I'm still bummed that I didn't make the connection to this song. Any guesses? THE GREAT LAKES: An 1855 poem gives us this Native American name for the 1 Great Lake not known to us today by a Native American word or a tribe's name |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 10 July 2024 at 1:47pm
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It would have to be Gitche-Gumee from the first line of the song. I wasn't familiar with the poem ("The Song Of Hiawatha"), but I just looked it up, and it's referenced there, too, in the last part. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 10 July 2024 at 8:14pm
Very good! That factoid could have been worth, like, $20,000. With more time, I might have gotten there but 30 seconds goes fast. During the credits, I mentioned the Lightfoot connection to Alex Trebek (another Canadian legend). Alex was polite but didn't seem impressed. |
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