Steve Miller Band - "Jet Airliner"
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Topic: Steve Miller Band - "Jet Airliner"
Posted By: Paul Esch
Subject: Steve Miller Band - "Jet Airliner"
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 8:57am
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In the database, the various artists CD Harley-Davidson Ride
is listed as having the 45 version plus 14 seconds. A local bar has this CD on the jukebox, and I've played "Jet Airliner," but it seems to be missing the opening drumbeats. I can't tell for sure, because this jukebox fades in quickly at the beginning of any track it plays. Could someone who has this CD check to see if the drumbeats are there? If not, then the true 45 version (with the drumbeats but without the "Threshold" sound effects overlapping) has yet to appear on domestic CD. |
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 4:14pm
| The version on "Harley Davidson Ride" does not include the opening drumbeats so you are correct in that the true 45 version has yet to appear on cd in the US. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 4:13pm
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Rather than starting a new thread, I wanted to put some info about "Abracadabra" here...
If my memory is correct, the 45 version is merely an early fade of the LP version. If that is true, than the database should probably state "45 length" and "LP length." Can anyone confirm? |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 5:00pm
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I had thought there were pitch issues as well--I believe the 45 pitch is slightly faster.
I know people will disagree, but I don't consider the LP ending to be merely just an extension of the 45 ending. The LP ending includes some instrumental passages that kinda come out from nowhere. So I don't have a problem with the "version" designation. Again, your mileage may vary. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 6:39pm
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i believe the 45 version is the same as the cd/lp version except for the below differences
front edit the first 0:02 and fade out to 3:20 and you'll have the 45 version......... that's the way i see it edtop40 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 10:36pm
| Ed, the song we were discussing was "Abracadabra" but are you saying that your 45 of "Jet Airliner" is missing the opening drum hits? According to Paul & the database, there are drum hits on the 45, but without the sound effects from the preceding track on the LP. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 29 May 2006 at 5:00am
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no...didn't see the addendum ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 30 May 2006 at 8:34pm
| I'd say it's more than a slight pitch difference on Abracadabra. The single is sped up a couple percentage points at least. |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 4:29pm
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I just listened last night to my 45 dub of "Airliner"
for the 1st time in a year or so. And while you can edit the LP version to match time, a lyric issue in the last verse is where the edit falls short. On the LP Steve sings: That I don't want to get caught up in any of that Funky shit goin' down in the city! The 45 replaces the bad word with kicks. Maybe one day we will get an actual 45 dub on some CD anthology, but I doubt it. One of the few songs where there is not much hope for the clean 45. I understand some versions on CD may have the words interchanged, but have but have personally ever heard it. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 5:33pm
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The clean 45 version is on Greatest Hits 1974-1978, so it's easily found
on CD. The issue with the CD version vs. the actual 45, though, is that it's missing the two opening kick drum beats and runs longer than the 45. A long time ago, I tacked the opening beats onto the CD version and matched the fade. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 9:08pm
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The one Steve Miller CD I do not have is the Greatest
Hits, caused had everything else! DUH! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 May 2018 at 8:42am
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Well, the good news is that CD is available in abundance for very cheap :) ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 9:56am
Actually the word "funky" is also resung to facilitate the replacing of the s word with "kicks." It may be that the whole line is resung, but that I'm not as sure of. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
garye wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 10:31am
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The proper 45 fade starts at 3:10 on "carry me to my home"
and ends at 3:20 on the word alone in "I'll be alone." ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 11:25am
I believe that final lyric is "Cause it's there that I belong." |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 12:58pm
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LOL, Paul,
I was trying to remember from my apparent bad memory. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 1:00pm
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Then, the fade ends just after the word belong. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: vanmeter
Date Posted: 09 May 2023 at 7:54am
| I wanted to mention; I'm not sure if the correct 45 version ever showed up on CD, but I was able to strip out the opening kick drum beats from the "Greatest Hits 1974-1978" CD version using one of the online extraction tools, and it worked beautifully...no artifacts at all and the two beats just spliced right back onto the intro flawlessly. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 24 July 2024 at 7:39am
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Ok, here’s one for the class. Was the LP version (but with the clean lyric
replacing the s word) issued as a promo, or did any radio station wanting to play the LP version have to do their own creative editing? ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Tim Brown
Date Posted: 03 August 2024 at 4:51am
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"Ok, here’s one for the class. Was the LP version (but with
the clean lyric replacing the s word) issued as a promo, or did any radio station wanting to play the LP version have to do their own creative editing?" I'd like to know the answer to that one as well. Tim |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 03 August 2024 at 5:03am
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I'm pretty sure there was no promo of the LP version with
"kicks" issued by Capitol at the time of radio promotion. I know some stations created their own edits. Keep in mind the 45 was a different mix than the LP. The LP has keyboards of the previous instrumental over the opening kick drum beats. The LP of course doesn't use the word "kicks". The LP has the counter-melody crank guitars come in earlier on the fade. And the fade is slower and longer. Andy |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 03 August 2024 at 5:36am
Many stations aired custom edits of that song to include the longer LP intro but without "sh-t". Most (including the one I worked at) tacked the LP intro (sans "Threshold") on to the 45 version, but I recall hearing one station that edited the LP to say "funky funk". |