Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing
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Topic: Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing
Posted By: EdisonLite
Subject: Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 11:13am
| Does anyone know how to get the 3:55 dj version of "Shadow Dancing"? Is it simply a fade, or an edit (and if so, what is edited)? |
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Posted By: Kerry Jackson
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 2:39pm
| I checked my dj copy of the 45 this afternoon. One side is 3:55 as you mentioned, but is listed on the label as 4:12. The other side is also listed as 4:12, but is actually 4:31. The short version is a fade of the long version. There are no edits, and the fade begins at 3:45 and fades out at 3:55. I did notice that the short version is mixed a little hotter than the longer version. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 4:20pm
| OK, so if I understand correctly, you just fade the album version, starting at 3:45 and ending at 3:55 (and it might be a little hotter). Is that right? Thanks. |
Posted By: Kerry Jackson
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 6:53pm
| That's true for the short version compared to the long version on the DJ 45. I don't have the album or cd versions to compare those. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 10:59pm
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No mix differences on this one; it's just an early fade the LP length. I think the "hotter" sound that Kerry is referring to could be that the short side is pressed louder than the long side. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Kerry Jackson
Date Posted: 13 February 2013 at 9:39am
| Yes, the hotter sound on the short side is level, not equalization or remix. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 13 February 2013 at 10:13am
| Are there two different dj 45's issued for "Shadow Dancing"? My copy is RSO 893 with matrix number RS-893-AM-CT1 which is the mono side with a stated time of (3:35) but actual running time of (3:55) and RS-893-AS-CT2 which is the stereo side with a stated running time of (4:12) but actual running time of (4:32). |
Posted By: Kerry Jackson
Date Posted: 13 February 2013 at 2:51pm
There probably isn't another dj 45 of "Shadow Dancing". Based on your matrix number info, my dj 45 is identical to yours except for the labels. The label for the long stereo version is on both sides of my 45:
 
I'd guess this was a pressing plant mistake... |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 08 April 2015 at 8:44pm
The first CD to include "Shadow Dancing" was Polydor's Andy Gibb greatest hits album from 1991. It runs 4:29 here, and sounds excellent - excellent dynamic range, very good EQ, no traces of noise reduction, and seemingly very low-generation source tapes. It's no wonder that a bunch of others use the same analog transfer:
The promo 45 is an early fade of the LP/commercial 45 version. Add a 32-beat fade, downbeat to downbeat on the word "Do", from 3:36.1 to 3:54.6 of the LP/commercial 45 version (using the timings from Andy Gibb). ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 April 2015 at 1:39pm
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Ok, Ron, I'm confused. Kerry, back in 2013, said to
recreate the fade for the promo side, was to start the fade at 3:45. Your instructions say start the fade at 3:36. Which is correct? |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 09 April 2015 at 2:28pm
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Full disclosure: I recreated Aaron's recreation of the promo 45 version.
I used a sinusoidal fade, which matched the shape of Aaron's fade, as well as the start/end points for the fade. I wholeheartedly trust Aaron's work, so I'd bet my dollar on the 32-beat fade from 3:36 to 3:54, rather than the 16-beat fade from 3:45 to 3:54. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 April 2015 at 3:25pm
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Thanks for the update! :)
I'll re-recreate the fade. :) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 April 2015 at 3:57pm
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It's hard to pinpoint the exact point when the song begins fading, but it's probably somewhere in between 3:36 and 3:45---like around 3:40. In any case, my version was creating using Jim's promo 45 dub as a guide, and I always try to re-create the fades exactly as they are on the vinyl. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |