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Topic: dion sandy
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: dion sandy
Date Posted: 10 April 2013 at 4:35pm
my commercial 45 for the dion song 'sandy' issued as laurie
3153 lists the run time as 2:18 but actually only runs 2:14
and as the song fades it just stops at the
2:14.....truncated before the music ends.....does anyone
else have the 45 to confirm my findings?....it's very odd
that the 45 fade would be clipped like that.....
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edtop40
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Posted By: bitman
Date Posted: 10 April 2013 at 9:19pm
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FWIW...the run time for Sandy on Dion's recent Laurie Singles set is 2:18...give or take a couple tenths
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 11 April 2013 at 12:09am
Ed, my original copy of "Sandy", on Laurie 3153, has both a listed and
actual time of (2:18). My deadwax says "45 P4KM-2139." Later in the
deadwax, it shows a triangle, followed by "46314".
Ed, I am 100% certain that my 45 is an original 1963 pressing. Both the
title and artist are shown in bold print, on my 45. Remember, Laurie
was one of those labels that re-pressed *many* of their 45s, for years
later, often still using the original catalog #. A common tip-off is that
almost all of these re-pressings used a very thin, small typeface font,
for title and artist.
Besides running :04 shorter, how else does your 45 compare to mine,
good buddy?
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 11 April 2013 at 5:25pm
very interesting info, jim......my run out groove has
'P4KM-2139'...and that's it.....the lettering on my 45
looks to be in bold face and NOT thin typing....looks like
there may be two pressing of this vinyl 45?...anyone else
have a copy of this vinyl to tip the scale either way?
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edtop40
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 11 April 2013 at 8:14pm
My Laurie 45 is an original 1963 RCA Indianapolis vinyl pressing, deadwax P4KM-2139-1A, listed and actual time is 2:18. The thin lettering is in the sans serif font found on RCA-pressed Laurie 45s of that era (as opposed to the with serif fonts used on the RCA represses from the mid-'60s into the '70s, an example of which is shown http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=1509779 - here at Discogs.)
Jim's description sounds like his is a Monarch pressing. Shelley out on Long Island also pressed this title on styrene (shown http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=3230993 - here at Discogs.)
Laurie's contracted plants typically did both the mastering and the pressing, allowing for the possibility of variations between the various manufacturers.
Sometimes it's hard to figure out exactly who did the pressing and mastering. I have a vinyl (not styrene) pressing of Dion's "Lonely Teenager." The deadwax has a hand-etched "45-" preceding Columbia machine-stamped "ZTSP65951-1J". There's also the Monarch "MR"-in-a-circle logo, followed by a hand-etched delta number "36643-X" that faces the opposite direction (tops of numbers face the edge of the record) from most Monarch delta numbers, whose tops of the numbers usually face the inner groove and label. The fonts appear to be what you'd find on a 1960 Monarch pressing (leaner than those of the mid-'60s) but the label is a matted orange, not the semi-glossy red found on most Monarch Laurie 45s. The pressing itself was likely done by a third party.
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