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Topic: Stars on 45
Posted By: anthology123
Subject: Stars on 45
Date Posted: 10 March 2006 at 10:37am
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I just wanted to confirm that the original #1 medley Stars on 45 is just an
edit of the Stars on Long Play version, just at the point where Venus starts. Is there a single edit already on CD? I have not seen one. I had seen a listing for a comp in Europe that might have it. |
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 10 March 2006 at 11:28am
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The U.S. version of the original Stars On 45 medley is actually an edit of the 12" single, omitting the "Stars On 45" intro and beginning with "Venus". On the Stars on Long Play LP, "Venus" and "Sugar Sugar" actually appear on the Boogie Nights medley on Side 2 (the Beatles medley is on Side 1).
The U.S. 45 can be found on the Varese comp "Then Totally 80s 2" and also on an old OOP RCA comp from 1991 called "Keep On Dancing". IMO, it sounds better on the Keep On Dancing comp. |
Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 10 March 2006 at 12:25pm
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it's unfortunate that none of their US LPs have gotten an exact CD release.
I have a number of "stars on" imports, and while they are all loaded with most of the medleys recorded, they are often either edited, or songs within medleys are completely rearranged and out of order from the original versions, or missing a few tracks from the original medleys. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 10 March 2006 at 1:18pm
Yes, none of the Stars On Long Play LPs have been released on CD in their original form. It's not even possible to recreate the full LPs from the bits & pieces that have appeared on CD. The 2nd half of the Abba medley and the majority of the Rolling Stones medley have never been released on CD. |
budaniel wrote:Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 10 March 2006 at 10:23pm
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I have a reissue CD single on ZYX, featuring two mixes. The first mix is around 4:48, and from it, you can create the US single version by cutting about 40 seconds at the beginning. Just cut after two bars of the Venus intro guitar to "Sugar Sugar". In doing so, you'll lose the first inclusion of the STARS ON 45 THEME.
There's also a mix that runs close to 10 minutes. I'm not familiar with this. I believe this ZYX disc is a domestic pressing. I'll see if I can find it. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 3:37am
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Does anyone know if the "Stars on 45" theme, the B-side to the Stars on 45 "Medley" single, has ever been issued on CD? It runs 3:33 and is simply called "Stars on 45."
I don't see it included in any of the Stars on 45 compilations. A portion of it opens the long version of the Beatles Medley, but I don't see the whole thing on CD anywhere. |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 6:50am
No, the "Stars on 45" B-side has never been issued on CD to my knowledge. I have checked many imports over the years for the Stars on 45 tracks, and this one has never turned up. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 9:30am
| I notice parts of the "Stars on 45 Theme" are spliced throughout the medleys found on CD. Is it possible to assemble these parts together and come up with the complete "Stars on 45 Theme"? |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 9:59am
No, that wouldn't be possible. The "Stars on 45" b-side consisted of a remix of the Stars on 45 theme starting with an extended instrumental then leading into a stripped down mix of the "You can boogie, love disco" vocal. Also interspersed are the cowbell intro of "Funkytown" and it fades out with the instrumental intro of "Video Killed The Radio Star". Only the full mix of the "Stars on 45" theme has appeared on CD. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 12:42pm
So it's not possible to edit the short mix from that? What CD is that on? |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 30 August 2008 at 2:32pm
I probably used a poor choice of terminology. By "full mix" I meant the mix with fuller instrumentation and vocals. This mix of the Stars on 45 theme is what appeared on the original "Stars on Long Play" LP, but it's still brief, consisting of 4 repeats of the "ooh-ooh" vocal riff, the "you can boogie" lyric, then the familiar "the Stars on 45 keeps on turning in your mind..." refrain. You can find this snippet on the "Very Best Of Stars on 45" import CD where it is used as the opening of the long Beatles medley, as it was on the original LP. The "Stars on 45" b-side used a stripped down version of the theme, with some of the instrumental and vocal elements mixed out. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 1:00am
I also know that the Beatles Medley II single (which came out in Canada in the summer of 1981, and I know WBUF 93.3 in Buffalo, NY played it) can be edited from the CD reissue of Stars on Long Play (but not the LP issue). The LP does not contain "From Me To You", but the CD does. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 7:38am
Actually the segue between "A Hard Day's Night" and "Please Please Me" on the Medley II 45 is problematic in trying to recreate from the long medley on CD. The problem is that on the CD (and original LP), the last note of "Hard Day's Night" is cut short with "Things We Said Today" coming in before the downbeat; on the "Medley II" 45, that last note of "Hard Day's Night" is held until the next downbeat. It's only about a half second, but it doesn't appear anywhere on the long (LP) medley. I spliced in that half second from the 45 to recreate the "Medley II" single version. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 10:06am
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[/QUOTE] Actually the segue between "A Hard Day's Night" and "Please Please Me" on the Medley II 45 is problematic in trying to recreate from the long medley on CD. The problem is that on the CD (and original LP), the last note of "Hard Day's Night" is cut short with "Things We Said Today" coming in before the downbeat; on the "Medley II" 45, that last note of "Hard Day's Night" is held until the next downbeat. It's only about a half second, but it doesn't appear anywhere on the long (LP) medley. I spliced in that half second from the 45 to recreate the "Medley II" single version.[/QUOTE] What I did is grab it from the "Hard Day's Night" chorus. Right after he sings "Night...", I grab from the clap to the bass drum downbeat, and I paste it right after "All Right...". Then I join it to the beginning of "Please, Please Me" The other hard one is ridding of the "Boogie, Love Disco"... at the end, but I just use one beat from the "Stars on 45" segue in the middle of the two Beatle medleys. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 10:30am
The segue you have described will produce a very close approximation of the 45, but not quite. There are 2 guitar strums after "...night", but only one strum at the end of the "feel all right". That one strum ending is cut short on the LP version. Definitely nitpicky I know, but I struggled for years to correctly recreate this segue. Also, an easier way to avoid editing out the "you can boogie" section is to just use the whole "Stars on 45" snippet that appears in shortened form between "Wait" and "Good Day Sunshine". Even more frustrating is the "Fingertips" segue on the "Stars on 45 III" 45 version. That segue does not appear on the LP version either, and the 45 has a sonic signature that is vastly different than the LP (possibly a higher generation source, and some subtle mix variation). I was not able to paste this in to the CD version without a noticeable difference. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 1:27pm
Ah but see here's where I got nitpicky ...lol (this is fun). See the second "ooooh-ooooh" on that part after "Wait" is differently mixed (oh so slightly) than the second one after "Hold Your Hand". And the latter is used on the single. In your example, I would've repeated the beginning of the single, again at the end. And tailed on the fading "oooh's". Whereas I just used the last clap before "The Stars....") I can send you what I did. I do also have the authentic single but it's too worn. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 9:25pm
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Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 9:38pm
I'll be damned; I never noticed that before. I didn't have a chance to retrieve my 45, but on the Very Best Of Stars On 45 CD, the mix of the "Stars on 45" refrain is different on the short "Wait-Good Day Sunshine" interlude than on the last segment after "I Want To Hold Your Hand". There are some subtle horns in the mix on the last segment that aren't there on the "Wait" segment. Is this the same on the 45? Also, I'm sure you also noticed that the "Very Best Of" CD version of the Beatles medley is considerably slower than either the Stars On Long Play LP or the Medley II 45. Wow, I had no idea that there was anyone in the world who even remembered the "Medley II", let alone could pick over mix difference minutiae. LOL. The "Medley II" single didn't chart very well, which was surprising given the huge success of the first medley. I think they should have either shortened it by starting with the "My Sweet Lord" segment, or used portions of an earlier part of the LP medley beginning with "Ticket To Ride" and ending with "Wait". |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 10:56pm
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Yes the horns on the refrain, and the humming tones on the second oooh - oooh - ohhhh on the final time (just before the refrain) are transferred to and intelligible on the 45-rpm disc.
It is very interesting that you noted the "extended" medley starting with "Ticket to Ride" and ending with "Wait". A Toronto radio station, CFTR (an AM CHR station at the time), carted up a unique custom version of the "first medley". It was essentially the first single, but with the extended portion included, after "...Lose That Girl", and then the Stars on 45 theme from the single, but after "Wait". So they likely had to use on of those 10 minute carts to put it on. I'm sure that they edited it from an LP copy, using Venus and Sugar, Sugar from Side 2, and the rest from Side 1. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 11:04pm
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Now one really important clarification here.
If you're talking about the three "climbing guitar notes" that start between "No No Nooooo"....and "The Stars on 45", then no - those NEVER appear on any 45-rpm versions nor is it on the middle segue on the LP either. Sorry to be anal. I was such a geek at 11 years of age in 1981. I was oblivious to pop culture most of the time, but I loved the radio! ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 10:03pm
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Wikipedia claims http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stars_on_45_Medley - here that the 12" of the hit "Medley" ran 9:45 on the original (Dutch?) release, 10:15 on the U.S.A. 12", and 11:30 in West Germany.
I only find what I assume is the original Dutch mix on iTunes, at 9:45. I also have a copy of the album version (Stars On Long Play), running about 15 minutes. My question is, can I re-create the American 12" version of the Stars On 45 Medley from the album version, or some combination of the original single and the album version? Also, the database claims a shorter version existed (perhaps for DJs?) running just over 3 minutes... can THAT be edited from the 7" single version, and if so, where do you cut? Thanks, as always for any help you can offer! ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 10:26pm
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Don't know about the 12" version, but the promo edit simply starts with "1, 2, 3, 4...This happened once before..." Everything prior to that point is chopped off. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 08 July 2011 at 6:45am
| The music prior to the "1, 2, 3, 4" countoff slightly crossfades over the "1...". Is it like that on the promo 45? |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 08 July 2011 at 7:16am
So you're saying the "Venus" and "Sugar Sugar did not appear on the US Promo version? I'll be damned. I've only ever heard the version on the radio that is on the stock 45-rpm disc. So what is on the 9+ minute version (or Dutch version) of Stars on 45? ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 08 July 2011 at 7:22am
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I guess I should clarify. I know the stock 45 as starting with "Venus", not the Stars On 45 intro.
------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 10 July 2011 at 7:23pm
The U.S. 12" version (Radio Records ST-DM-39802-SP) is (mostly) a combination of the 7" medley and the "Boogie Nights" medley on Side 2 of the Stars On Long Play U.S. LP. Basically, the Beatles portion of the 7" medley has been cut into the Boogie Nights medley after the "Sugar Sugar/1-2-3-4" snippet (just as it is on the 45) and cuts back into the Boogie Nights medley at the "Cathy's Clown" section after "You're Going To Lose That Girl". The only other difference is that the 12" version starts with the two "Let's do it" refrains (from the intro of Side 1 of the LP) before going into the Boogie Nights medley. Unfortunately, the LP version of the Boogie Nights medley has never been issued in its entirety on CD, so it is not possible to recreate the 12" version from CD sources. |
Posted By: Fetta
Date Posted: 10 July 2011 at 7:51pm
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I an sure everyone is aware of this but figured I would share for anyone who didn't know of this. The "Stars on 45 Medley" was originally part of a Bootleg 12" called "Bits and Pieces III". The bootleg actually used the real Beatles tracks and the Stars on 45 release is almost exactly how the bootleg sounded. See the attached link and go to the 5:52 mark and you can hear it as it originally sounded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTgVkxKcrEk&feature=related Enjoy! |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 11 July 2011 at 8:00am
------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 24 August 2011 at 7:28pm
For those handful of Stars on 45 fans out there, be aware that there is a recent import release on Red Bullet called "30 Years Anniversary Of Stars on 45" (a rather grammatically challenged title). It contains two medleys from the original series of "Stars on Long Play" albums that had never been released in their entirety on CD until now: the long Abba medley from side 2 of "Stars on Long Play II" and the long Rolling Stones medley from "Stars on Long Play III". Unfortunately, the sound quality isn't that great. The EQ is heavy-handed (rather smiley-faced); dynamic range is a bit squashed but not too bad. While I don't hear any obvious vinyl tics, there is some distortion that makes me wonder if these might be cleaned up vinyl transfers. It's hard to tell. Of the original LP medleys, that only leaves the "Boogie Nights" medley from side 2 of the first album that has not appeared in full on CD in some manner. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 25 August 2011 at 1:21pm
The station I worked at in '82-83 had a version with the "stars on 45" chorus at the end edited off too. I'm guessing it was a house edit (it was on cart, as was everything we played), though I'm not sure why.
Never heard that before, but IMHO the medleys flow a lot better with the studio singers. Compare some of the original artist medleys from that time (the CCR one is just full of train wreck edits, the Supremes one not much better). I can only imagine how those "Stars" medleys would have sounded with the original song samples. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 25 August 2011 at 1:40pm
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The original "Bits & Pieces III" medley was actually done very well, and sounds surprisingly close to the Stars On 45 version. No train wrecks at all; it was a thing of beauty.
It wasn't legal, though, because they never got the rights to use any of the songs. Even if the producers had tried, it would be highly doubtful that EMI would agree to having their songs used. As I understand it, Jaap Eggermont held the rights to "Venus", and was more than a little annoyed to hear the song used in this bootleg 12" single. There was no record company to go after, so he thought he'd fight it by producing a sound-alike version and releasing it legitimately. It worked. Sold millions. I agree about the other single-artist medleys. The CCR one is particularly dreadful. (Those horrible medleys are perfect for the radio show. If you've got any recommendations, let me know - the worse the medley, the better it is on the radio!) ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 26 August 2011 at 6:19am
Try to track down a really obscure K-Tel album from the early 80s called "Dance Dance Dance". It's a compilation of medleys from that era. It contains two of the Stars on 45 singles (the original medley and the Abba medley), but performed by a "soundalike" group rather than the original Stars on 45. Yes, it's a soundalike of a soundalike...and quite terrible. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 05 January 2014 at 5:49pm
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Just compared the version on Keep On Dancing (1991) to the true 45.
There are two differences, both of which aren't too significant. First, the version on Keep On Dancing fades too early, with the fade beginning about 6 seconds too early and ending about 2 seconds too early. And second, the true 45 has an editing artifact right before the first beat of the song. The artifact is about 0.06 seconds long, and is omitted from the Keep On Dancing version. If you create your own edit from one of the European CDs, you'll also omit the artifact. Disky in Europe included the 4:51 version of the Beatles Medley (UK 45 version?) on two different 8-CD sets called Greatest Hits Of The '80s, one in 1998, one in 2002. I used the 2002 set as the source for my own homemade US 45 version; I can live without the editing artifact from the true US 45. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 05 January 2014 at 7:10pm
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This just gets more and more messy...
There are three differences between the "Beatles Medley" on The Very Best Of Stars On 45 CD (Music Club/Music Collection International MCCD 192) and the true LP version (i.e., the entire side one of the Stars On 45 LP): First, the CD version on The Very Best Of is 2.3% too slow. Second, The Very Best Of includes a 32-beat section of "From Me To You" between "Please Please Me" and "I Want To Hold Your Hand". The true US LP version doesn't have "From Me To You", and goes straight from "Please Please Me" to "I Want To Hold Your Hand". The "From Me To You" section is from 14:17 to 14:33 of the CD version (without being sped up) and would start at 13:58 of the true US LP version. Third, the CD version fades about seven seconds too early. So even if you go to the trouble of speeding up the CD version by 2.3% and editing out "From Me To You", you still run short. (I'll save you the trouble of repeating my mistake.) ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 05 January 2014 at 7:33pm
Yes, that fleeting anomaly just before the first downbeat on the U.S. 45 sounds like the last .06 seconds of the "...reply-hi-hi-hi" refrain from the UK 45 version, which began with the Stars on 45 theme before segueing into "Venus". I suspect that Radio Records created the U.S. 45 from a copy tape of the U.K. 45 and decided to omit the opening Stars on 45 theme segment. Unfortunately they missed the downbeat edit point by a hair. The version on the "Keep on Dancing" CD sounds infinitely better than the original Radio Records 45, despite the missing error in the intro. Whoever mastered this CD got access to a really good source tape. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 05 January 2014 at 8:23pm
Aaron's earlier point, regarding the full, actual contents of the promo 45. And yes, while one side of it did include that shorter edit, sans "Venus" and "Sugar Sugar", the other side of that promo 45 did feature the exact same, longer edit that appeared on the stock 45. In 1981, I never personally heard (or heard of) any Top 40 station playing the promo 45's short version on-air. (Although somebody must have, somewhere.) For our purposes here, however, we consider both to be "valid" versions, simply because the record label both created it, and then sent copies of it to radio. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 06 January 2014 at 9:18am
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Roscoe
<The version on the "Keep on Dancing" CD sounds infinitely better than the original Radio Records 45> How does the Varese Sarabande CD compare to the "Keep On Dancing" CD? I only have the VS. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 January 2014 at 10:46am
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From memory, I think the VS comp uses a nicely cleaned up 45 dub. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 06 January 2014 at 8:31pm
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I didn't even know that came from 45! So is the hit US sv available on any CD worldwide from a tape source and without editing it?
UPDATE: I just checked the database and it doesn't say the VS CD uses a vinyl source. Can you please update it, if Aaron's assessment is correct (and I don't know why it wouldn't be :) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 January 2014 at 11:03pm
The copy on the Disky collection is much better sounding than the Keep On Dancing compilation, IMO. It sounds like a lower generation tape. It's not as hissy and compressed. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 06 January 2014 at 11:11pm
It's been a LONG time since I've heard the Varese CD, and I do not own that disc, unfortunately. At one point several years ago, I obtained a dub of the Keep On Dancing compilation, and I did a comparison of the two. At that time, my ears were detecting a slight amount of vinyl rumble on the Varese comp and a few minor ticks here and there. Overall, the mastering engineer did a really nice job of cleaning it up. I had to listen very carefully on headphones to pick up on it. In the end, though, the Keep On Dancing version replaced the dub from the Varese disc, and I no longer have the file. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 9:17am
| And then did the Disky version replace your "Keep on Dancing" version as the file you went with? Was the Disky version "edit-able" down to the US version (or was it missing the "Venus/Sugar Sugar" part at the beginning, like others)? |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 9:32am
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The Disky version can be edited very easily to recreate the US 45 version. You just lop off everything before the opening downbeat of "Venus", and you're good to go. The fade on the Disky version starts and ends at the same points as the US 45. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Roscoe
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 1:00pm
Exactly. To be excruciatingly correct, make the intro edit .06 seconds before the opening downbeat of "Venus" and you'll have an exact replica of the U.S. 45. The only issue with the Disky version is that it sounds like it's from at least one generation higher source than the Keep on Dancing CD. Most likely it uses the U.K. 45 tape which was probably a generation or two removed from the Dutch master tape. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 2:24pm
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Hmm, I am listening to the 2002 Disky version, and it's not as hissy as
the Keep On Dancin cd. At least to my ears, I think the Disky copy is better. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 7:09pm
HOLD UP! I stand corrected. Jeff just forwarded me a copy from his Varese CD. It is not from vinyl, and in fact, THIS is the copy that I used to replace my other one. My original source was a TM Century GoldDisc, and THAT is the one that I could detect vinyl noise (no surprise). Both the Varese and Keep On Dancin' CDs sound like tape source, although the Varese copy sounds like a lower generation tape. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 7:26pm
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I have both the Varese and Keep On Dancing discs and I went
with the Varese version for my iPod. I do not have that Disky disc in my collection. This is one of those chart toppers that seldom showed up on a domestic CD release in the past (probably because it's a Dutch master that no one can get their hands on). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 8:17am
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Got to hear the Varese CD version. It does indeed sound like it's from a tape source, comparable with the Disky tape source.
The mastering on the Varese is pretty aggressive, though, with a lot of compression/limiting. Plus, the fade starts and ends about a second earlier than the Disky version. In a side-by-side comparison, I preferred the Disky version. It uses source tapes comparable with the Varese disc, but with much more dynamic range than the Varese disc. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 10 July 2018 at 1:29pm
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Sorry to bump this old thread, but I was playing side 2 of the Stars on Long Play LP. Between the "SOS Band" segment and "Video Killed ..." segment, there are four bars f REALLY cool disco music, that sound familiar, but are not identified on the LP cover. Any takers for this one?
EDIT: Actually looked it up on YouTube. Here's the link. Listen between 3:11 and 3:28. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUnZCBi0EOU - Stors on Long Play Side 2 ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 10 July 2018 at 1:42pm
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I seem to remember that passage as belonging to one of the Stars On 45 B-sides, although I can't remember which one. I can check tonight. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 10 July 2018 at 2:32pm
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Oh darn, I once knew the name of that song from a tracklist posted on Youtube...but I forgot. I have it too, somewhere.
As you likely know Stars on 45 was a studio cover of a bootleg DJ medley that got huge in clubs. There are many posts on Youtube but I can't find the one where they listed each record in order. The actual song you're looking for is at 5:30 in this video of the original medley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sICpjrSVFY The name of the medley here is "Let's Do It In The 80s" but it's been booted with other titles too. This was the medley Jaap Eggermont heard and decided to make a studio group cover and release as a legit thing. I doubt he ever dreamed it would be such a hit. MM |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 10 July 2018 at 3:10pm
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I asked Siri, and she correctly identified it as "Handsome Man" by Sparkle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69G18XXaDU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69G18XXaDU ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 10 July 2018 at 3:45pm
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Aaron, Siri and [insert third character] are the "New Trinity". Thank you so much Aaron.
:) ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 11 July 2018 at 5:10am
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Nice work, guys! That song is new to me, too. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 11 July 2018 at 12:43pm
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Yes thanks Aaron!
That was gonna drive me nuts. I had the info once then lost it. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 10:49am
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OK, I'm kind of curious. What's the difference between the UK LP version and the US LP version?
(There's a 10 second difference between the two.) I can only get the UK version via iTunes (but I'd have to buy the whole damned album due to the (15:51) running time), but there's also a nice-sounding version on YouTube as well. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 11:11am
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In the UK version, at about 13:58, "From Me To You" is a 32-beat section between "Please Please Me" and "I Want To Hold Your Hand".
In the US version, at about 13:58, "From Me To You" is deleted, and the track goes from "Please Please Me" directly to "I Want To Hold Your Hand". I seem to remember that there was an issue with the rights in the US. Something along the lines of a non-Beatle person retaining the rights to just "From Me To You" (and none of the other Beatles tracks), because the non-Beatle person really liked that song? Perhaps someone has a better memory than I do can fill in the details. The US LP has a fade that extends about 8-10 beats longer than what's on the Disky CD. It's just looped at that point, and not terribly significant. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 1:32pm
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Now Medley II, the single that was adapted from the
second half of the Beatles medley on Side 1 of the LP, DOES have "From Me to You" in that spot. This is at least the case here in Canada. I only ever heard the Medley II single broadcast once on an American station in Buffalo, NY (WBUF) and there were no omissions that I recall. But I don't know if the US issued promo and single had the song included. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 1:51pm
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Jody - Great observation!
I checked my dub of the US 45 of "Medley II", and it does indeed have the "From Me To You" segment, just like the UK album. I found an online article from 2012 that discusses the publishing stuff: "The US publishing rights for six of The Beatles’ early songs have changed hands for the first time since the 1960s. Round Hill Music and Adage Classics have bought a portfolio of copyrights that includes the songs ‘She Loves You’, ‘From Me To You’, ‘I Saw Her Standing There’, ‘Misery’, ‘There’s A Place’ and ‘I Wanna Be Your Man’. Round Hill Music, a year-old start up, bought the catalogue with Adage Classics, an intellectual property rights group, for the GIL Music and GPS Music catalogues. Although the terms of the deal have not been disclosed, the songs are believed to be worth up to $10 million. The sale allows Round Hill and Adage to collect songwriting royalties and licensing income for the songs. The rights are restricted to the United States and Canada. New York song promoter George Pincus originally acquired the US and Canadian rights to the songs, written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney, after seeing The Beatles perform in England in 1963. In 1964 Pincus attempted to sell the rights for £200, but they remained under family ownership." ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 4:30pm
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While we are on Stars on 45, can anyone confirm the UK 1981 45 medley runs 4:48? I think they call it the original 45 on Qobuz. I am aware that the Stars on 45 Medley here in the US runs 4:05. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 7:49pm
For a while a couple of those songs in the pre- ATV/Northern Songs Beatles catalog were controlled by Universal (formerly MCA). I think the only Lennon/McCartney hit with publishing actually owned by them (at this time) is "Love Me Do" and its original flipside "PS I Love You". Yoko and Sir Paul acquired the rights from EMI Beechwood for those two. ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 21 June 2022 at 9:51am
I have a set of the Disky 80's CDs too. Thanks Ron for the info about two issues produced. Mine is also the 2002 version. I always get a bit forgetful when reading through a long thread. Was the Stars On Long Play ever issued on CD? I was going to drop into the record shop and pick up a vinyl copy for the display shelf. This is a unique art piece, and I can't seem to find one in my collection. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 21 June 2022 at 2:03pm
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Thanks to Rich, I can confirm that the full Stars On Long Play album was issued on Qobuz (but including the "From Me To You" snippet), with excellent sound.
Still not on a pressed CD, to the best of my knowledge. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 22 June 2022 at 8:36am
I can't imagine the demand for the Long Play Album outside the digital realm Ron in 2022. If it was going to make CD it would have already. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |