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Topic: "Hearts" - Marty Balin
Posted By: sriv94
Subject: "Hearts" - Marty Balin
Date Posted: 07 August 2013 at 5:45pm
Curious about something. Every database CD has the 45 version of this song, including "Balin" (the original album where the song came from). The "Balin" vinyl LP version runs (4:32) according to Wiki. What were those extra 17 seconds? An intro? A coda? Something else edited out?

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Doug
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All of the good signatures have been taken.



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Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 07 August 2013 at 9:37pm
The instrumental intro is doubled, and it night fade a few seconds later.
I finally found the lp version on the compilation cd highway rock: the
one that you love.


Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 07 August 2013 at 9:40pm
Doug, if you type in "Marty Balin Hearts" on YouTube, the first video
shown is the 1981 LP version. In addition to the intro doubling Daniel has
just cited, I believe the instrumental ending also goes on longer.

Like most stations did, our station did play "Hearts", in power rotation, for
about 10 weeks back in '81. And yes, it is now 32 years ago. But I find
that details of many songs I played/heard that often still stay with me.
Therefore, I must add that, to my ears/brain, this 1981 LP version also
sounded like it was a different vocal take than the one we played to death
off of the 45. His vocal inflections here just weren't jiving with my long-
ago DJ memories. Hopefully, someone with digital audio comparison skills
can do their magic here, to see if I'm right or wrong.


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 4:26am
Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Therefore, I must add that, to my ears/brain, this 1981 LP version also
sounded like it was a different vocal take than the one we played to death
off of the 45. His vocal inflections here just weren't jiving with my long-
ago DJ memories.


"Hearts" is one of my all-time favorites. I fell in love with it the very first time I heard it on the radio while on vacation with my parents in Boston in 1981. During my radio days in the late 80s/early 90s I played the original 45 on the air nearly every day and I still listen to it quite often. I'm not sure what you're hearing/not hearing Jim, but the vocal on the album version sounds identical to the 45 to my ears.


Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 9:14am
Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Doug, if you type in "Marty Balin Hearts" on YouTube, the first video
shown is the 1981 LP version. In addition to the intro doubling Daniel has
just cited, I believe the instrumental ending also goes on longer.


Thanks, Jim. If that came from vinyl (since the CD has the 45 version), that audio quality was really, really good.

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Doug
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All of the good signatures have been taken.


Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 9:37am
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Therefore, I must add that, to my
ears/brain, this 1981 LP version also
sounded like it was a different vocal take than the one we played to death
off of the 45. His vocal inflections here just weren't jiving with my long-
ago DJ memories.


"Hearts" is one of my all-time favorites. I fell in love with it the very first
time I heard it on the radio while on vacation with my parents in Boston in
1981. During my radio days in the late 80s/early 90s I played the original
45 on the air nearly every day and I still listen to it quite often. I'm not
sure what you're hearing/not hearing Jim, but the vocal on the album
version sounds identical to the 45 to my ears.
                              
Paul, thanks for your take. I will absolutely defer to your opinion on it.
(Honestly, I much preferred the follow-up, "Atlanta Lady", so I probably
had the studio monitor at a very low volume during "Hearts" most of the
time!)   :)


Posted By: budaniel
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 6:37am
This is the CD on which I got the album version. Very inexpensive on amazon marketplace:

http://www.amazon.com/Highway-Rock-One-That-Love/dp/B000007O82/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1376055380&sr=1-1&keywords=highway+rock+the+one+that+you+love - Highway Rock: The One That You Love


Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 11:34pm
Thanks very much for the lead, budaniel! I find it interesting how the LP version wasn't even used on the CD reissue of the Balin vinyl LP.


Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 1:11am
I've found this exact issue on a few other CD and/or
digital re-issues of albums as well.
It is very frustrating to me.
As far as V/A comps and "Hits" compilations, by all means
use that single master, but albums should be re-issued as
they were!
I understand that *some* albums were changed during their
vinyl run and may have several different versions to
choose from at cd reissue time..so choosing the right one
may be difficult.
It's the ones that are changed for digital re-issue that
annoy me.
MM


Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 02 July 2021 at 6:43am
I am curious if the 3:54 duration on the US promo 45
(with :14 second intro according to the label) is
mistimed or is it a different edit than the 4:18 version
that appears on the 2008 reissue of the 1981 LP?
According to Discogs, most of the 7" records have a
duration of 3:54.

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Rick


Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 02 July 2021 at 6:36pm
I timed an 18 second intro on my copy.
I fade it out early at the end of song comes out at
3:54.
I wonder if that is the only difference.


Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 02 July 2021 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by promojunkie promojunkie wrote:

I am curious if the 3:54 duration on the US promo 45
(with :14 second intro according to the label) is
mistimed or is it a different edit than the 4:18 version
that appears on the 2008 reissue of the 1981 LP?
According to Discogs, most of the 7" records have a
duration of 3:54.


I'm pretty sure 3:54 is an incorrect run time. There's a video on YouTube of the 45 being played, and the music seems to start at :07 and fade
out at 4:22, which would total about 4 minutes and 15 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz0V7LIhrZg - Hearts 45 RPM

That's not to say that there couldn't be any stock or promo copies out there that actually do run 3:54, but my guess is that they're all in the
4:15-4:18 area for actual length.

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Dan In Philly


Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 04 July 2021 at 7:03am
thank you for the youtube link, Dan.   Unless someone
has the actual promo 45 in hand and has timed it to
3:54, I would agree this falls in the category of a
mistimed label.

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Rick


Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 04 July 2021 at 2:29pm
FWIW, my Canadian 45 has a 3:54 printed time, but my
audacity file of it runs 4:15.



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