mfsb "tsop" fade out differences
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Topic: mfsb "tsop" fade out differences
Posted By: edtop40
Subject: mfsb "tsop" fade out differences
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 7:50pm
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anyone know which cd has the correct 45 fade out on it.........the 45 fades out to 3:23 while most cd versions run 3:34........the final :05 of the 45 compared to the cdr version i have is very slightly diferent.............anybody???? ------------- edtop40 |
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Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 8:56pm
| That's the trap of trusting the printed timings on 45s. It's the exact same on the 45 as the CD. Also, the CD may be counting the silent space. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 9:22pm
| Ed always times his 45s very carefully so I doubt he's referring to the printed time. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 8:24am
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no....what i mean is the music in the fade out is slightly different that the cd version.........take a listen to the last 0:05 of the 45's fade out versus the cd counterpart....tell me what you think ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 12:41pm
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Ed, my stereo dj copy states a run time of (3:29) but
actually runs (3:32) while my mono dj copy runs (3:35) does your commercial 45 run 3:23? |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 1:10pm
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yes, sir...my 45 fades out about 0:08 ealier than the cd version with a slightly different chorus during the fade out.....would you like an mp3 of my commercial 45???? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 5:19pm
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edtop40 wrote:Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 9:38pm
| Ed, I timed your file in Audition at exactly 3:31. I switched to spectaral mode zoomed in at the absolute musical start and end points and marked them. Then I drew the cursor from point to point. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 8:30am
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i gotta check my run time again but did you hear the different fade out???? ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 1:20pm
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 7:04pm
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now you've really got me puzzled.....i gotta listen again, now.......... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 5:43pm
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i stand corrected........my 45 runs 3:32 and is identical to the version from the cd "soul hits of the 70's vol 12" faded 0:03 earlier....thanks for the help on this one..... ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 31 May 2016 at 5:56pm
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...10 years later
Just noticed that the parent LP of "TSOP (The Sound of Philadelphia)" "Love Is The Message" states the run time as 3:43 on the label. Is that true or a label misprint? Database (or the note) will need updating following the verification. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 23 February 2017 at 8:32pm
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The oldest CD I have with "TSOP (The Sound Of Philadelphia)" is Columbia Germany's Mixed Masters Vol. 3 (1989). It's the 5:40-ish version that first appeared on the Philadelphia Classics vinyl LP released in 1977. It sounds just OK here - nice dynamic range, good EQ, no evidence of noise reduction, but likely not the lowest-generation source tapes. There's a differently-EQ'd digital clone on Sony's Forever Soul Vol. 1 (1995), which is far more common and likely far less expensive.
Bill Inglot found some terrific source tapes for Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 12 (1991). This version runs 3:34, with a fade from 3:18 to 3:34. Here, it sounds fantastic in every way. The same analog transfer is used on:
Discogs lists a printed time of 3:29 for the 45, and 3:43 for the LP. Was there was really a length difference between the two? If so, do the real lengths and fade points correspond with the 3:34 and 3:40 versions above? I recommend Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 12 (1991) for "TSOP". Unless there's a pressing need to hear an additional six seconds of the song, I'd avoid the 3:40 version from Disco Fever, because it sounds awful. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: ddipas
Date Posted: 19 February 2022 at 3:05pm
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I've got just one CD with what sounds like the long TV
version. It's on "Get Down With The Philly Sound: The Dance Collection" on PIR/Legacy from 2008. The CD case is labeled "Not For Sale" and the song runs 3:43. It sounds just like the 45 version except the Three Degrees prominently sing "Soul Train," "people all over the world," and so on. Sound quality is excellent! |