Mamas & The Papas -Look Through My Window
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Topic: Mamas & The Papas -Look Through My Window
Posted By: davidclark
Subject: Mamas & The Papas -Look Through My Window
Date Posted: 29 March 2015 at 11:25pm
What's the difference between the LP version and the not-on-CD 45
version of this one? Can't find anything in the chat on it....
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Posted By: Kerry Jackson
Date Posted: 30 March 2015 at 3:39pm
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I believe one of the main differences between the LP version and the not-on-CD 45 is the fact that the 45 is mono and the LP version is a stereo version. I have several LP copies and apart from a slight speed difference on some of the LPs, the main difference that I notice is the mono/stereo difference.
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 03 April 2015 at 10:35am
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There are some pretty significant mix differences between the 45 and LP. I can change the description from "version" to "mix" if you would like.
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 04 April 2015 at 4:57am
Yes, Pat, perhaps that would be better if you change it to a mix
difference. We tend to use the word "version" to describe significant
differences in the versions other than only the mix, for example,
overdubs in one not in the other, an edit or early fade of the LP
version to create the 45, different recordings, different instrumentation
and/or vocals, etc.
Our board does not generally specify a mono 45 vs. a stereo LP mix
as different unless the mix gives it a significantly different "feel", such
as via added reverb or punchiness, which in that case we
generally use the term "mix". This seems to be the approach we use
since there are literally thousands of 45s issued in the late 50s, 60s
and early 70s in mono where the 45 received a stereo mix for release
on a stereo LP. In general, we have no label beside these entries.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 April 2015 at 7:52am
David, if I'm not mistaken there are many instances where a difference in reverb qualifies for a "version" difference and not a "mix" difference. If it were up to me, I'd get rid of "mix" altogether. Is there a clear definition of when "mix" is used instead of "version," and is it consistent across all database entries?
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Aaron Kannowski
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Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 04 April 2015 at 10:00am
You are probably correct Aaron - perhaps for reverb, "version" is more
used, I do not know - perhaps I should not have included that in my
"mix" category. But when we do use version, there is often a chat where
someone (like me) has asked, and the board members have replied
documenting why it's a version, e.g., indicate that reverb is different
between the two. I do not know how consistent the database is in using
version or mix for reverb. I have yet to hear the 45 of this particular
song, to hear the mix differences Pat mentions.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 October 2015 at 11:30am
After doing an A/B between the mono 45 and a fold-down of the stereo LP, I'm not really hearing any noteworthy mix differences. The mono 45 is certainly a dedicated mix, as the vocals are louder on the fold-down, and instruments are at slightly different levels (nothing drastic). Overall, though, all of the instrumentation, vocals, reverb, etc., appear to be the same between both the stereo and the mono.
There are several other similar examples in the database where the mono mix is only slightly different from a stereo fold-down, yet Pat has not made any "LP/45 mix" notations for those songs. I'm not sure why this one is deserving of an "LP mix" notation, but I thought I'd point out that, in my opinion, the differences are not as significant as Pat feels they are.
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Aaron Kannowski
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 01 October 2015 at 5:13pm
This song had one of the coolest B sides "Once Was A Time I
Thought". It ran :58, and came in handy when you were back-
timing and were off by a minute. Apparently I wasn't the
first one to think of this...at the first station I worked
at, this song was VERY cueburnt.
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