Nick Gilder - Hot Child In The City
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Topic: Nick Gilder - Hot Child In The City
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: Nick Gilder - Hot Child In The City
Date Posted: 25 April 2015 at 7:24pm
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Hardly any CDs feature the LP version, which runs 3:31. All the major-label compilations feature the 45 version, which runs about 3:06. Not sure what the difference is between the LP and 45 versions.
The first CD to feature the 45 version was probably Silver Eagle/Capitol's 3-CD Formula 45. It sounds like a high-generation tape source. Not great. There's a slightly better analog transfer on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 10 1978 (1990), which slightly truncates the fade. The same analog transfer is used for:
For the 45 version, go with Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1978 (1991), or any of the digital clones. Footnote: I recently got a question about EQ. In general, I found that the Rhino discs use the lowest-generation source tapes out there, and tend to be EQ'd with a slight high-end boost. I don't mind the high-end boost myself, which is why I usually end up recommending the Rhino discs. I found many, many tracks on Time-Life discs that are differently-EQ'd digital clones of tracks from Rhino discs. For these tracks, the Time-Life EQ tends to slightly blunt the high-end of the Rhino. The differences aren't all that large, typically on the order of a dB or two at the high frequencies. My rule of thumb: look for discs with Dennis Drake as mastering engineer. He worked at Time-Life from 1995-2002, and his EQ choices are the best of anyone out there. If I list a Time-Life disc as being a differently-EQ'd digital clone of a Rhino disc, I can guarantee it will sound as good as, or better than, the Rhino source disc. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 26 April 2015 at 5:32am
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The difference between the 45 & lp version of "Hot Child" is that the lp version, which came out a couple months after the 45, had a 25 sec. guitar-based coda tacked-on to the end to help make the record sound more 'rock'.
Andy |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 26 April 2015 at 10:46am
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Thanks to Jimct, I got to hear the LP version.
The 25-second-long coda that Andrew referenced is one of the most unnatural things I've ever heard. It completely obliterates the sense of closure from the that vocal ending on the 45. No surprise, then, that I'd never heard it at all in the 36 years since the song came out! ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 26 April 2015 at 3:36pm
While I agree that the LP version ending sounds "tacked on", to me it is the definitive version since that what the 2 Top 40s I listened most to played in the summer of '78. The single just sounds incomplete. YMMV. |
crapfromthepast wrote:Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 26 April 2015 at 6:32pm
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Hykker - Which stations were you listening to back then?
I was in NYC, listening to WABC and WNBC starting in late '78, right at the tail end of the chart run for "Hot Child". I don't remember what versions the NY stations played when it was actually on the charts. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 27 April 2015 at 5:05am
I was living in southern N.H. at the time, and my stations of choice were WRKO in Boston and JB-105 in Providence, both of which played the long version. WPRO-FM also tended to play album versions, though I can't say for sure which version of HCITC they played. WRKO was still pretty much "the" station other New England T40s (aside from Conn, which seemed more influenced by N.Y.) looked to, and 'RKO was leaning towards album versions of the hits at the time. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 27 April 2015 at 9:55am
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Pretty sure WABC played the 45, not as sure about WNBC.
I know WLS (Chicago) played the 45. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 April 2015 at 9:59am
I was listening to JB-105 and PRO-FM at the time, and I recall they only played the single version. In fact, the first time I ever heard the album version - on CD in the '90s - I was surprised by it because I'd never heard it before. So I guess our memories of what JB-105 played are different. |
Posted By: Tim Brown
Date Posted: 07 September 2015 at 7:54am
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Doug,
I remember WLS playing the album version. When I heard the single version played on other stations, it always sounded "weird." Maybe LS started out with the single and switched over to the album version???? |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 07 September 2015 at 9:23am
Certainly possible, Tim. They did do that with Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street" and the Rolling Stones' "Miss You" (and they shifted from 45 versions to LP versions for a number of songs as time went on). I honesty didn't remember them playing the LP version. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |