Shaun Cassidy - Hey Deanie
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Topic: Shaun Cassidy - Hey Deanie
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: Shaun Cassidy - Hey Deanie
Date Posted: 10 May 2015 at 3:39pm
This song hit #7 in 1978? You'd never know it by listening to the radio in 1979 - this one never made into any radio station's gold library, as far as I know.
The LP version runs 3:36 on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 35 AM Nuggets (1993). Based on the timing, and the tendency for the Time-Life discs to rely on earlier masterings, I'd bet that this version is based on Curb's Shaun Cassidy Greatest Hits, but can't confirm.
There's a different analog transfer on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 24 (1996), which runs a teeny bit faster and clocks in at 3:34. Both of these versions sound OK - nothing great, but not awful.
Using Have A Nice Day Vol. 24 as the source for the LP version, here are instructions for creating the 45 edit:
Segment 1
Extends from 0:00.0 to 2:39.0 on both the LP version and the 45 edit
Ends on a downbeat on the word "love"
Remove the 56 beats from 2:39.0 to 3:04.7 of the LP version ("love" to "love").
Segment 2
37 beats long
Starts on a downbeat on the word "love"
Extends from 3:04.7 to 3:21.7 of the LP version
Extends from 2:39.0 to 2:55.9 of the 45 edit
Ends on a snare
Remove the 16 beats from 3:21.7 to 3:29.0 of the LP version
Segment 3
Starts on a snare
Extends from 3:29.0 to 3:37.0 (end) of the LP version
Extends from 2:55.9 to 3:03.9 (end) of the 45 edit
Your mixdown will run 3:00 (excluding outro silence), or 3:03.9 (including outro silence), with edits at 2:39.0 and 2:55.9. The edit near 2:56 falls properly on the beat, but it's pretty clumsy. You'll hear background vocals disappear and an open hi-hat come out of nowhere - that's what really on the 45.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 11 May 2015 at 7:37pm
crapfromthepast wrote:
This song hit #7 in 1978? You'd never know it by listening to the radio in 1979 - this one never made into any radio station's gold library, as far as I know. |
Sadly, many pop hits from that era (especially the ones you'd find on Rhino's "Super Hits of the '70s: Have a Nice Day" are songs that were not played on the radio even a year later.
When you make the comment above about this song, I assume you're making your observations about the region of the country where you lived, though I'm sure it's probably true of the whole country.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 11 May 2015 at 8:26pm
EdisonLite wrote:
When you make the comment above about
this song, I assume you're making your observations
about the region of the country where you lived, though
I'm sure it's probably true of the whole country.
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That's my guess. Certainly true for the New York City
radio stations, most likely true in other markets.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:58am
Realistically, how many hits by teen heart-throbs made it to
gold rotation? Partridge Family, Bobby Sherman, Leif
Garrett, even Shaun's brother David all met the same fate.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 7:17am
"I Think I Love You" still gets a fair amount of airplay.
As to the subject at hand, is the 45 version of "Hey Deanie" on Then 70s correct?
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 8:40am
sriv94 wrote:
As to the subject at hand, is the 45
version of "Hey Deanie" on Then 70s correct?
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Good question. I'd be happy to evaluate, if someone
could send me the Then 70s version.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 9:36am
Ron, do pretty much all the Time-Life compilations have the L/R channels reversed? Could you start a separate thread to list the
compilations that you know are reversed?
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 9:40am
TM Studios only has "I Think I Love You" as active in their oldies library, no other Partridge Family or David
Cassidy tracks. Not really a surprise, because even when I was first starting on the radio in 1977, we only
played Leif Garrett and Shaun Cassidy as currents. No recurrent status.
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 11:00am
sriv94 wrote:
As to the subject at hand, is the 45 version of "Hey Deanie" on Then 70s correct? |
If I recall, it was the the single version but taken from vinyl.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 11:03am
Excellent question about the left/right channel reversal.
Here are discs that I know to be the source of left/right channel reversal for a few tracks:
The Hits - REO Speedwagon
The Singles Collection - Spandau Ballet
the original '80s era "atomic design" Songs From The Big Chair - Tears For Fears
Greatest Hits 1979-1990 - Dionne Warwick
Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 1 1969 (1991)
Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 3 1973 (1992)
Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 6 1971 (1991)
Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 7 1972 (1991)
Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 13 The Early '70s (1992)
Time-Life's 2-CD Guitar Rock (1990)
Time-Life's 2-CD Guitar Rock Monsters (1992)
Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 3 1976-1977 (1993)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 31 AM Top Twenty (1993)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 34 Late '70s (1993)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 35 AM Nuggets (1993)
I didn't see L/R reversal for Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 32 AM Pop Classics (1993) or Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 33 AM Pop Classics II (1993).
I've only spot-checked the Time-Life discs for songs older than about 1975, so there may be others. I'd keep an eye on others in the AM Gold series. I haven't checked any of the Time-Life '50s or '60s-era music sets in detail, either.
Time-Life brought in Dennis Drake to do a lot of their mastering work in 1995, and he's one of the very best mastering engineers out there. He mastered T-L discs from 1995-2002, and I don't know of any instances where his discs are the source of L/R reversal. (There are probably instances when a track on one of his discs is a clone of a L/R-reversed song from an earlier disc.)
This list isn't complete, by any means, but should give you red flags for particular problem discs.
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Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 12 May 2015 at 11:07am
EdisonLite wrote:
sriv94 wrote:
As to the subject at hand, is
the 45 version of "Hey Deanie" on Then 70s correct? |
If I recall, it was the the single version but taken from vinyl. |
Then it most likely was correct, if they went to the trouble of using a
vinyl single to master it from.
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