Steppenwolf - The ABC/Dunhill Singles CD
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Topic: Steppenwolf - The ABC/Dunhill Singles CD
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Steppenwolf - The ABC/Dunhill Singles CD
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 10:49am
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Full title: The ABC/Dunhill Singles Collection.
Great news! I have been working again with Real Gone Music, and this CD will be released August 14th. Like the Grass Roots set we worked on, this contains all of the correct single mixes, with one exception. John Kay requested we use the full album version of "Monster." Everything else on the set matches the 45 A- and B-sides exactly. Tracklist CD1: 1. A Girl I Knew (mono single version) 2. The Ostrich (mono single version) 3. Sookie Sookie (mono single version) 4. Take What You Need (mono single version) 5. Born to Be Wild (mono single version) 6. Everybody s Next One (mono single version) 7. Magic Carpet Ride (mono single version) 8. Rock Me (mono single version) 9. Jupiter s Child (mono single version) 10. The Pusher (mono single version) 11. It s Never Too Late (mono single version) 12. Happy Birthday (mono single version) 13. Move Over (mono single version) 14. Power Play (mono single version) 15. Monster (stereo LP version) (at John Kay's request) 16. Berry Rides Again (mono single version) 17. Hey Lawdy Mama (mono single version) 18. Twisted (mono single version) 19. Screaming Night Hog (mono single version) 20. Spiritual Fantasy (mono single version) 21. Corina, Corina (mono single version) CD2: 1. Who Needs Ya (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) 2. Earschplittenloudenboomer (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) 3. Snow Blind Friend (mono single version) 4. Hippo Stomp (mono single version) 5. Ride with Me (mono single version) 6. For Madmen Only (stereo single version - unavailable on LP) 7. Black Pit (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) 8. For Ladies Only (mono single version) 9. Sparkle Eyes (mono single version) 10. I m Movin On (John Kay) (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) 11. Walk Beside Me (John Kay) (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) 12. Somebody (John Kay) (single version) (45 is stereo) 13. You Win Again (John Kay) (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) 14. Moonshine (Friend of Mine) (John Kay) (mono single version) 15. Nobody Lives Here Anymore (John Kay) (mono single version) 16. Easy Evil (John Kay) (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) 17. Dance to My Song (John Kay) (45/LP version) (stereo on both LP & 45) ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 12:18pm
| Nice! Very exciting news. |
Posted By: Gary Mack
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 12:38pm
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Should we assume they're all disc dubs, or did some tapes
turn up? Between the Dunhill cost-saving trash dump and the Universal fire, there can't be any original mono tapes still on this planet. Or......... GM |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 2:13pm
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I have no answers for you on that, Gary. But a good buddy of mine and I
were talking last week about girls who'd had "augmentation" surgery. He said, "I don't care how - I care about how much!" I can see his point. I guess I look at collections like this, from labels whose U.S. mono masters were supposedly trashed, the same way as my friend feels about "enhancement." I don't care *how* the music got to my ears - all I care about is how good it sounds. Today's audio technology is amazing. I couldn't care less whether foreign tapes were located for this, if some vinyl was used, or if it was a mix of both. Some in this hobby seem totally fixated on determining source audio info more than anything else. Why? To each his own. But I've never followed that logic at all. I'm a music fan, not an FBI investigator. If it's a "should I buy it" issue, then I'd suggest waiting for online reviews first. I always let my own ears decide. If the music sounds clear, bright, and as I remember the 45s sounding, that's all that matters to me, personally. I prefer to keep things simple. |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 2:32pm
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Wow. Great news indeed.
All I know is this. We're getting another incredible set of never-before-on-CD Dunhill single versions mastered by Aaron. I know it's going to sound incredible. SIGN ME UP. |
Posted By: Oddbjorn
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 3:34pm
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10 out of 10 points from me. Really looking forward for this. Agree with jim; I don't care about the source as long as it sounds good and it is the 'real' 45 in speed, pitch, length and everything (just like the Grass Roots earlier). WOW !!! ------------- OddNor |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 6:04pm
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Another winner courtesy of Real Gone Music and Aaron. Also,
excellent point made by Jim. Listen carefully to one of Aaron's vinyl dubs and then listen to one of the recent loud, distorted and compressed CD releases of the same song. I don't have to tell you which one sounds best (just listen and judge for yourself). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 6:25pm
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I'm in!
The Real Gone Grass Roots collection was the first new CD I've bought since... I honestly can't remember; it's probably been a decade since I bought a new CD. This will be the second new CD I've bought since... The price will be justified just for good-sounding 45 versions of "Born" and "Magic"! ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 7:08pm
Aaron, I trust that won't be a problem when you get around to Mickie Finn: The Complete Dunhill Singles Collection. ;) (Anybody else remember that dog of a show on NBC back in '65?) Seriously, congrats on what is sure to be another stellar-sounding collection of Dunhill goodies (I'm not one to differentiate "Dunhill" and "ABC/Dunhill;" it's just Dunhill to me.) I especially want to make sure that you and the others on the board responsible for taking the initiative in getting the ball rolling on these projects get the credit you deserve. Otherwise, we'd still be waiting or having to settle for those expensive Japanese remasters with the sub-par needledrop single bonus tracks. |
aaronk wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 9:00pm
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Awesome news! Looking forward to replacing my vinyl dubs
with this collection. Any chance a Three Dog Night singles collection will ever happen? ;) |
Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 11 June 2015 at 4:31am
| Another fantastic announcement! Kudos to all the folks that are making this one happen, especially my buddy Ed Osborne and our very own Aaron K. Knowing that these guys are involved is all I need to assure me that this release will be of the highest quality. |
Posted By: bitman
Date Posted: 11 June 2015 at 8:12am
| Shut up and take my money! |
Posted By: jono
Date Posted: 11 June 2015 at 10:24am
I agree 100%. Really looking forward to this one, almost as much as the Grass Roots cd (but they're one of my personal favorites). Obviously this hasn't come out yet, but I'm already hoping for more Dunhill Singles collections in the future (I'd even love to have a Thomas Group cd, although that's extremely unlikely to happen). Jon O. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 16 June 2015 at 6:13pm
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I know it sounds crazy, but I hope "Born To Be Wild"
sounds as bad on this new Cd as the actual 45 does. ------------- |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 June 2015 at 10:03am
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Does that mean you hope it's plagued with vinyl distortion, contains lots of crackle, and has plenty of Dunhill vinyl hiss? :-D ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 17 June 2015 at 1:01pm
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Nah Aaron, I think The Hits
Man likes the sound of undecoded Dolby that the 45 of "Born To Be Wild" had. Ha. Andy |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 17 June 2015 at 3:29pm
faithful to the sound of the 45s, however they were. That means I hope "Magic Carpet Ride" has that hearty bass. ------------- |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 17 June 2015 at 4:52pm
Well, the original copy of "Rock Me" that I had skipped. I hope the CD isn't that faithful. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 17 June 2015 at 5:01pm
I think you'll be pleased. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 17 June 2015 at 7:56pm
Hey, I'd love it if that were included as a bonus track! ;) The station on which I heard the 45 the most as a current had a copy that skipped, too. Mine never did, but for years I expected it to whenever I played it, until I eventually forgot exactly where the skip was. Pretty sure it was shortly after the final chorus began after the instrumental break. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 4:54pm
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Mine might have skipped during the percussion section,
but how could I actually tell??? :) |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 25 August 2015 at 11:58am
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My copy arrived yesterday. Many thanks to all involved. I never dreamed I'd be hearing these single mixes sounding so good.
Steppenwolf were even more popular in Canada than in the US. "It's Never Too Late", "Who Needs Ya", "Snow Blind Friend", "Ride With Me", and "For Ladies Only" were all Top 40 hits, as was John Kay's "Moonshine". The Sparrows, the group from which Steppenwolf evolved, had four Top 40 hits. When Canadian radio stations became subject to Canadian content regulations around 1973, there was a lot of confusion as to whether "Born To Be Wild" qualified, since nobody was sure who Mars Bonfire actually was. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 25 August 2015 at 1:42pm
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Thanks, Paul! I'm glad you're happy with it. Admittedly, I went into the project knowing only their two biggest hits, but I can confidently say that I'm quite impressed at how many really fantastic songs are on the set (both A- and B-sides). I may be biased, but I think the sound quality on several songs is better than any other currently available stereo version on CD. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 27 August 2015 at 6:14pm
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Of course I bought it too. Another great set! You can
hear the different reverb they used on the vocals on some of these mixes, like on Born To Be Wild. Nice job! |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 28 August 2015 at 6:31am
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Thank you, Bill! I'm glad you're enjoying it. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:43am
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Pat, in case you haven't received a copy of the Steppenwolf CD but would like to add the information to your database, here is what appears on the CD:
(M) (3:02) Born To Be Wild (45 version) (M) (2:53) Magic Carpet Ride (45 version) (M) (3:38) Rock Me (45 version) (M) (3:06) It's Never Too Late (45 version) (M) (2:56) Move Over (45 version) (S) (9:16) Monster (LP version) (M) (3:19) Hey Lawdy Mama (45 version) ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 3:51pm
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My copy is ordered. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 04 September 2015 at 7:08pm
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And received. Love it.
Upon listening to my copy of "It's Never Too Late" from 16 Greatest Hits, I'm thinking this is an unsuccessful attempt of recreating the 45 version. The version on ABC/Dunhill runs just a scosche slower, but it's noticeable. I'd like someone else to either corroborate or tell me I'm nuts. (Neither of which are necessarily mutually exclusive. :) ) ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 04 September 2015 at 9:58pm
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That wouldn't actually surprise me, Doug. I haven't compared 16 Greatest Hits to the actual mono 45 mix, but the stereo LP version most definitely runs faster in speed than the mono 45.
I'm glad you love the set! ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Bwci Bo
Date Posted: 08 September 2015 at 5:18pm
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I received my copy in the post today. What a great set. Well worth the money.
Excellent work Aaron, and everyone else involved. |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 24 July 2021 at 12:58pm
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I was searching for other information on "Born To Be Wild" and found this. (Also just ordered my 2cd set.)
In another thread I read something about a K-Tel CD titled "Biker Rock", so I found one on ebay and bought it. Born To Be Wild is on this K-Tel disc and has an ending I'm not familiar with. I'm pretty sure I remember almost every version I heard on the radio as having a fade at the end. This one ends cold. Is this the 45 version? maybe one of those cases where the 45 version is longer than the album version? I haven't checked to see how long my album version actually runs, but I would assume it may be 3:28 or so? From the fade out point I'm used to hearing, there's an extra 10 seconds of full volume music that ends cold. I'm going to go look at a few copies I have and find out about the track times, but what's this cold ending I've never heard before? ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 24 July 2021 at 1:53pm
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Dave, that's the Steve Hoffman remix
(missing a guitar overdub) that first appeared on 'Vintage Music Vol. 9' on MCA. Andy |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 24 July 2021 at 3:52pm
So, Mr. Hoffman was involved in that series? I have that on CD and Vinyl, but have never really listened to it in detail. (Yeah, I seem to waste a lot of shelf space.) I'm pretty sure I'll be able to pick up on that missing overdub, if I listen closely. Thanks for the info Andy. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 24 July 2021 at 4:25pm
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Yes Dave, Steve Hoffman was the
compilation producer on the first ten volumes. The next ten were lackluster (uncredited); Steve had left MCA by then. Andy |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 03 August 2021 at 3:03pm
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That's kind of interesting. The version on that CD isn't credited to Hoffman. Instead, it lists it as "Originally Dunhill 4138." Also stereo.
I also received my CD from Real Gone the other day. the difference between these two is like day and night. I've done some looking into my collection for the album version as well. I suppose that is what I remember the best as neither of these two end in the manner I'm familiar with. Had I not been reading here, I probably wouldn't have given these difference very much thought. Thanks to all who are posting here. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 04 August 2021 at 9:06am
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To Dave:
The original CD release 'Vintage Music Volumes 9 & 10' does say "Compiled & Remastered by Steve Hoffman" on the back and in the booklet. I don't own the later CD reissue simply 'Vintage Music Volume 9', so I don't know what that says. Andy |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 04 August 2021 at 10:19am
I should have written "Track" instead of "CD' in that instance. The CD does say on the back cover that it was mastered by Steve Hoffman. I was intending to note that the individual track says its source was Dunhill 4138. I'm going to head down to the local 45 store and see if that one is available. I suppose I could also look over at Discogs as well. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 05 August 2021 at 6:06am
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To Dave:
If you want the physical mono 45 for your collection, head down to your 45 store or Discogs - but it won't sound as good as the mono version on the 'ABC/Dunhill Singles' CD! The team did a fine job on this release. Andy |
Posted By: RoknRobnLoxley
Date Posted: 14 August 2021 at 4:44am
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FYI, Cherry Red Records in the UK announced yesterday they are releasing a Steppenwolf 8-CD box set on 10-29-21, "Magic Carpet Ride - The Dunhill / ABC Years 1967-1971". Newly remastered from the original master tapes. Consisting of their 8 albums, plus 26 bonus cuts from rare singles and mono mixes.
Including this time the single (edited) version of Monster, which was not included on the Real Gone "The ABC/Dunhill Singles" CD release. Rock on !! |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 14 August 2021 at 4:27pm
That sounds interesting too! While I was at the 45 shop, I picked up a copy of Monster. I haven't listened to it yet but assume the editing will be hard to bear. Dunhill 45-D-4221. Included on the back is the single "Berry Rdes Again." Another great song that shouldn't have been released as a 45 IMHO. Also Chicago "Dialogue." ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 16 August 2021 at 8:18am
Disagree about "Dialogue." I loved the single version. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 16 September 2023 at 4:12pm
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Eight years later I'm comparing the various copies of "Born To Be Wild" I have (all stereo except the AC / Dunhill collection) and WOW is the mono a revelation!
From the huge BOOM reverb on the opening drum hit, to the deep bass... I had fully planned to put the stereo version on my Halloween station, but I'm struggling now because Aaron's dub sounds better than the stereo copies! I know about about the last person to say it here, but fantastic job!!! ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |