George McCrae - Rock Your Baby
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Topic: George McCrae - Rock Your Baby
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: George McCrae - Rock Your Baby
Date Posted: 25 February 2017 at 3:26pm
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A nice rhythm-box soul hit from 1974, and the first taste of success for the guys who would later form KC and the Sunshine Band.
45 version The true 45 version appears on Priority's Mega-Hits Dance Classics Vol. 2 (1989), where it runs 3:12, and sounds fine, even though it's too loud and clips a bit. Good thing Priority released it when it did, because every CD from 1990 onward used the LP mix. It's the same situation as "Get Down Tonight": the 45 came out first, the song got a new mix for the LP, and Rhino trimmed down the LP mix for the CD release of the song in 1990. LP mix and LP length It's on a few discs, and runs about 6:22. I have a file from the 1988 original release of the Canadian disc Dance Classics, which sounds fine to my ears. LP mix faded to 45 length The LP mix faded to the 45 length first appeared on Rhino's Get Down Tonight The Best Of T.K. Records (1990), where it runs 3:18. It sounds great here - terrific dynamic range, nice EQ, low-generation source tapes, and no evidence of NR. The same analog transfer is used on:
For the true 45 version, go with Priority's Mega-Hits Dance Classics Vol. 2 (1989). For the LP mix faded to the 45 length, go with Rhino's Get Down Tonight The Best Of T.K. Records (1990). I don't have enough versions of the LP version to make a recommendation. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 February 2017 at 3:30pm
| When I first heard the single mix on a CD, I thought a multi-generatational tape had been used because it sounded really hissy from the get-go, especially in the intro. But then, Mark Mathews explained to me that it was actually the music (I can't recall the details - probably something in the drums) that was making it appear to me as hissy, but it wasn't. It was just the way one of the instruments sounded. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 28 February 2017 at 9:54am
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When Rhino purchased Roulette Records in 1989, the T.K. catalogue came with it. Roulette had purchased T.K. about ten years before. Rhino was very displeased with the tapes they received from Roulette (but, of course, didn't want to mess with Morris Levy). For example, there were no Tommy James tapes at all. Rhino went looking for usable Tommy James tapes and found the tapes they would eventually use in the possession of Tommy James himself. (I'm recalling this from a Goldmine article from at least 25 years ago.) Tommy James did not have copies of the single masters; these would long be believed to have been lost forever until they were discovered in the EMI vaults in the UK about twenty years later.
My guess is that Rhino (now owned by Warner Brothers) did not receive the single masters of "Rock Your Baby" and "Get Down Tonight" from Roulette back in 1989. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 28 February 2017 at 10:07am
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My 45, which is styrene, with deadwax as TK-1004-A, has
a listed time of 3:14 and an actual run time of 3:17. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 01 March 2017 at 5:55pm
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Had a chance to listen to the lone 45 version listed in
the database and it actually fades 5 seconds early compared to the actual 45. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 04 March 2017 at 11:18am
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<My guess is that Rhino (now owned by Warner Brothers) did not receive the single masters of "Rock Your Baby" and "Get Down Tonight" from Roulette back in 1989>
Hmm... has anyone compared this version with the single version on any import CDs? I recall there was at least 1 import (UK or Germany) that has the single version of this. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 20 June 2019 at 1:50pm
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I went back and re-timed my 45. It's close to 3:17,
running 3:16.7. I'll send a dub to Mark Matthews for his analysis. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 20 June 2019 at 2:14pm
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Make that 3:15.7 since I just dug out the actual
45. So, looks my timing of 3:17 in incorrect or there waa silence at the beginning. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 June 2019 at 11:39pm
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The database needs to be corrected. The lone 45 mix fades
out 3 seconds earlier than the 45 vs. 5 seconds. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 07 July 2019 at 8:50pm
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Yes, and also bear in mind, this was another Henry Stone
low budget recording. I still get a smile on my face when I hear it, and I play it every so often.l ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 08 July 2019 at 6:49pm
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Is there a telltale sign that determines the 45 mix? I have a short version, but I'm not sure whether it's the correct short version or the LP version simulated (my guess is the latter). ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 09 July 2019 at 4:17am
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Doug,
The 45 has either a different drum carrying the beat, or it's just mixed so much louder/heavier it sounds so. If you play both the 45 and LP versions, you will know if you have the 45 as you will hear the difference. ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 15 July 2019 at 9:01pm
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Harry Wayne Casey and Richard Finch produced the song
using scrap tape during night time off-hours at TK Studios. The single sounds as if the drums were dubbed over the drum machine. ------------- |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 11 August 2020 at 9:23pm
Oh my!! I just picked up a set of the Time-Life '70s Music Explosion series just this week. I was listening through and noted on this song the ending sounded really funky! So that's some of the pitfalls of adding noise reduction. Sometimes I hear stuff like this and wonder just WTF has happened. It sounds like the song fades out and then somebody clipped on a little tag of more content which sounds totally different than the rest of the song. I'll have to keep my ears peeled for this kind of stuff. It's pretty interesting to find. Especially considering exec's at these studios are supposedly paying these engineers big bucks for continuity across a series. (Well, I hope they are paying big bucks!) Or were, in this case in 2005. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
crapfromthepast wrote:Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 11 August 2020 at 9:58pm
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This is one of the big issues with TM Century’s GoldDisc library. They
used noise reduction on everything! The other big issue, of course, is that TM often had wrong edits/versions. Thankfully, noise reduction on commercial CDs is far less common. Ron does an excellent job at finding the offending discs. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |