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Topic: Old Town Road- Lil Nas X, Billy Cyrus
Posted By: PopArchivist
Subject: Old Town Road- Lil Nas X, Billy Cyrus
Date Posted: 22 April 2019 at 10:24pm
For those who have any interest:

The only place I could find the new remix that is #1 and the original version that was #1 the first week in lossless is at:

https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/old-town-road-remix-lil-nas-x-feat-billy-ray-cyrus/qlotx3s2ofukc - https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/old-town-road-remix-lil-na s-x-feat-billy-ray-cyrus/qlotx3s2ofukc

Now what confuses me is that looking at the lyrics, there isn't an explicit label on Qobuz for the original (and for the remix since it is being serviced to country it's been slightly reworked for that venue to be clean). So can anyone enlighten me if there is a downloadable explicit version of this song? The only words I see that might be bleeped are "booty" and "boobies."

In this wonderful new age of download only music(oh CD single, i miss you so)I figure someone here works at radio and can clarify if a bleeped clean version exists...(and after awhile this song does get stuck in your head...)




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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 23 April 2019 at 4:15am
They're both on Tidal, too. But there is only one
version for purchase there, too, as there is nothing
really dirty in the song. Maybe Radio Disney created a
"super clean" version with "booty" and "boobies"
censored, but I don't know.


Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 23 April 2019 at 10:10am
Promo Only initially released a 'Clean No Lean Edit" that
muted lean and muted part of boobies. The remix, featuring
Billy Ray Cyrus, does not mute those parts so I edited
that section from the clean edit into the remix.

I wish TM Studios were still in the music subscription
business. They would have done an Xtra Clean Edit for
sure.

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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 23 April 2019 at 4:19pm
Update: Promo Only issued a "Promo Only Remix Clean". It's
dated 4/9/19 in POOL. I'm not sure if I missed it a couple
weeks back or if it was just added. My guess is that's
it's a custom edit and not from the label.

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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 24 April 2019 at 5:22am
Doesn't look like WW1's Hot Country format is playing the
song. I just logged into the affiliate website and
checked
their playlists for April and it's not listed.
Song wasn't on their download page either, if there's a
"clean" version, that's what will be there (though
sometimes it's a house edit).

As far as missing CD singles goes, to me not really.
Storage space is getting to be a concern here, and so
many of them over the last 20 years were just CD-Rs
anyway, so no big loss.



Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 24 April 2019 at 11:28am
Mediabase doesn't list the song on the Country chart
either even though the remix is with Billy Ray Cyrus. All
of the airplay spins now are CHR, Rhythmic and Urban.

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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 23 July 2019 at 11:22pm
Well place your bets on if it gets to 17 weeks or not and is the champ. Right now you have a three way tie with One Sweet Day and Despacito.

If I recall pre-Hot 100 only one song had 17 weeks in the 1940's.

If Bad Guy's remix with Justin could not shake it from the top spot not much hope it will stop at 16.

Anyone want to call it?



Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 24 July 2019 at 5:12pm
I think that it will make 17 weeks. Could it even make
18?


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 4:42am
Based on the numbers, "Old Town Road" is almost certain to
get that 17th week. It's probably going to take a hot new
song (or remix of a current hit) to dethrone it.


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 11:32am
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

Based on the numbers, "Old Town Road" is almost certain to
get that 17th week. It's probably going to take a hot new
song (or remix of a current hit) to dethrone it.


I call 18. Then I call a few #1 hits in quick succession to make up for the backlog of songs that could not make it.

I think I read in an article the song has kept the most #2's from being #1.

1) Taylor Swift's and Brandon Urie's Me (May 11, 2019)
2) Billie Ellish's Bad Guy (June 8, 2019-June 22, 2019, July 13, 2019-Present)
3) Shawn Mendes' If I Can't Have You (May 18, 2019)
4) Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber's I Don't Care (May 25, 2019 and June 1, 2019)
5) Post Malone's Wow (April 27 and May 4, 2019)
6) Shawn Mendes and Camilla Cabello's Senorita (July 6, 2019)
7) Taylor Swift You Need To Calm Down (June 29, 2019)

I think that is the record is it not Paul for songs that could not get to #1 eventually. That is 7, also considering that Sunflower could not go back up to #1 for 2 more weeks as well.

I still remember being pissed in 1996 when my favorite song Missing by Everything But The Girl was blocked by One Sweet Day's massive run. Whitney's Exhale though deserved better than to be stuck at 10 weeks at #2....


Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 12:11pm
"Senorita" by Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello also got
stuck at No. 2 behind "Old Town Road", although I think
that one may still have potential to hit No. 1.

Didn't Whitney's "Exhale" squeeze in a single week at
No. 1 between "Fantasy" (Mariah Carey) and "One Sweet
Day"?


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Bellenger1981 Bellenger1981 wrote:

"Senorita" by Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello also got
stuck at No. 2 behind "Old Town Road", although I think
that one may still have potential to hit No. 1.

Didn't Whitney's "Exhale" squeeze in a single week at
No. 1 between "Fantasy" (Mariah Carey) and "One Sweet
Day"?


You got me. I will add Senorita to the original post.

Also Exhale was #1 on November 25, 1995 and finally made it to #1 in between Mariah's Fantasy and One Sweet Day. However it was #2 for 10 weeks! If it didnt make it that week to #1, it would have set the record for the most weeks at #2, it was that popular of a song. To prevent 6 songs from becoming a #1 hit shows how massive Old Town Road is. Even Despacito and One Sweet Day could not do that.

Missing by EBTG hit #2 for 1 week, as it couldn't hit the top spot that week of February 17, 1996.


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 1:33pm
Songs that could not hit #1 during One Sweet Day's 16 week run.

1) Missing by EBTG
2) Not Gonna Cry by Mary J. Blige
3) Sittin Up In My Room by Brandy
4) Exhale by Whitney (Special note that it did hit #1, but it was at #2 for 11 weeks, depriving it of a chance at more #1 weeks). Exhale would have been Whitney's second biggest hit if not for One Sweet Day.

Songs that could not hit #1 during Despacito's 16 week run

1) Wild Thoughts By DJ Khalid and Rhianna (#2 for 7 weeks)
2) That's What I Like out of #1 for 5 weeks at #2
3) I'm The One By DJ Khalid out of #1 for 4 weeks at #2

So keeping 6 potential #1's at #2 is a lot tougher then Despacito's keeping songs that were already #1's out of the top spot. Same for Exhale, which already hit #1 in 1995.

So this adds a bit of a different perspective how big Old Town Road is.


Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 2:11pm
Very interesting chart facts! I was not aware that
"Exhale" spent 10 weeks at No. 2! Wow. I suppose that I
never really paid attention. At least it did manage to
sneak a single week in at No. 1. "One Sweet Day" was
huge, although I think that it has been somewhat
forgotten over time in favor of "Always Be My Baby", the
third single from "Daydream".


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 10:34pm
I fixed it Bellenger, after chart examination it was 11 weeks...oh well. Also added You Need To Calm Down by Taylor which also stalled at #2 and could not go to #1...


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 25 July 2019 at 10:42pm
Originally posted by Bellenger1981 Bellenger1981 wrote:

Very interesting chart facts! I was not aware that
"Exhale" spent 10 weeks at No. 2! Wow. I suppose that I
never really paid attention. At least it did manage to
sneak a single week in at No. 1. "One Sweet Day" was
huge, although I think that it has been somewhat
forgotten over time in favor of "Always Be My Baby", the
third single from "Daydream".


I think I remember getting tired pretty quickly of the ballad, as most people did. It didnt have a cool remix version like Fantasy did (hell that Fantasy hook came from Tom Tom Club's Genius of Love)or that retro 80s beat.

Notice the 3 biggest hits had mass appeal to cross over:

1) One Sweet Day had Boyz II Men, a huge R & B group and pop artist domination with two huge #1's already and Mariah Carey, who was at the peak of her vocal abilities and had chart power and a powerful #1 album.

2) Despacito had the spanish market, Justin hitting #1 a lot the last year before the song with his solo album and english/spanish crossover appeal. Same market that brought Macarena so much success it made 14 weeks. Without Justin, the song could not have crossed over and did not even make top 40.

3) Old Town Road had R &B and Country by adding Billy Ray Cyrus to the remix to help propel it to stay at #1. I don't think it would be lasting so long if Cyrus had not added himself to the remix. While it may not have charted as a country hit (anyone know if the remix did?) it still has a country feel. It also has remixes which have kept it at #1 unlike the other two, which just had the most popular version.


Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 26 July 2019 at 11:19am
11 weeks for "Exhale"? Wow. So, was that a record then
for most weeks at No. 2? "I Need to Calm Down" had
crossed my mind, but I was thinking that it was climbing
up the Hot 100 (forgot that it had hit No. 2 already).
So, that's yet another one kept from No. 1. Incredible.

I've been reading that Lil Nas X has been trying to get
more people to do a remix of "Old Town Road", including
Mariah Carey and Dolly Parton.


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 26 July 2019 at 11:59am
I wouldn't be surprised if "Old Town Road" is #1 for 40 weeks+. I know that sounds pretty outlandish, but consider these #1s on other Billboard charts in the past year or so (some right now):
Dance - "Happier" Marshmello & Bastille - #1 (44 weeks and counting)
Christian - "You Say" Lauren Daigle - #1 (52 weeks and counting)
Adult Contemporary - "Girls Like You" Maroon 5 - #1 (32 weeks and counting)
Country - "Body Like a Back Road" Sam Hunt - #1 (34 weeks)
Country - "Meant To Be" Florida-Georgia Line & Bebe Rexha - #1 (50 weeks)
Rock - "Heathens" twenty one pilots - #1 (30 weeks)
-Am I forgetting any others?
These types of long running #1s were quite infrequent prior to 2 years ago.
I've never understood why things are so different now with these massively long #1s. Is it that these songs really got played so much longer (44 weeks, 52 weeks), or is this more a result of Billboard's revised tabulations in the last couple years? So, whatever's going on now, I don't see why it can't happen to the Hot 100 chart tabulations, too - even though it's a potpourri/combination chart of many things.


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 26 July 2019 at 7:28pm
It won't happen because at some point the next hot song will take hold. It always does on the Hot 100.

Despacito could not go to a 17th week because Look What You Made Me Do vaulted to #1 in its first full chart week, as I think it was #77 the week before.

One Sweet Day could not go to a 17th week because Because You Loved Me by Celine Dion overtook it at #1, and it stayed there for another 5 weeks after that.

It just takes one hot song these days to knock a song back down to #2. I agree the chart weeks at #1 are insane but it is the song you least expect to climb up the charts that usually vaults into the #1 spot and keeps it once the massive chart run is over...


Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 27 July 2019 at 1:07pm
Does anyone who follows the Billboard charts know why in the past couple years so many charts (Country, Rock, AC, Dance, Christian...) have had #1s for 30-52 weeks, when this hardly ever happened before this period? Is it due to streaming? a chart rule change at Billboard?

As I look at the charts every Tuesday morning, I'd be more shocked if, on the Dance chart, Marshmello's "Happier" wasn't at #1 than if it was. 44 weeks so far - I don't know why - and I really don't expect it to fall soon. And I don't think it's really more popular than other big dance songs from the past 10 (or 20) years.


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 28 July 2019 at 6:58am
Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

Does anyone who follows the Billboard
charts know why in the past couple years so many charts
(Country, Rock, AC, Dance, Christian...) have had #1s for
30-52 weeks, when this hardly ever happened before this
period? Is it due to streaming? a chart rule change at
Billboard?

As I look at the charts every Tuesday morning, I'd be
more shocked if, on the Dance chart, Marshmello's
"Happier" wasn't at #1 than if it was. 44 weeks so far -
I don't know why - and I really don't expect it to fall
soon. And I don't think it's really more popular than
other big dance songs from the past 10 (or 20) years.


It's all in how the charts are compiled. The main genre
charts (R&B, Country, Dance, Rock) are strictly based on
where a song stands on the Hot 100, using the same
formula as the Hot 100. It's the main reason why we went
with Country Airplay chart as the main chart for our most
recent Country Singles book.


Posted By: jebsib
Date Posted: 29 July 2019 at 7:24am
Anyone under a certain age now streams music. Radio is - despite audience
levels in the millions each week - not the key way the General Public consumes
music anymore. This happened very quickly, and the streaming numbers are
so incredibly enormous that they overwhelm mp3 downloads and radio's
fractured genre reach.

Research has shown that people tend to listen to streamed songs for longer
periods of time than previously thought. Radio is also hanging onto their
songs longer than before, creating a perfect storm for songs to stay at the top
of the big charts forever.

Add to this, genres like "Dance" or "Rock" aren't as mainstream popular as
they used to be, so one or two lucky songs in their lane can stay at the top for
months.

While it can get tedious and borderline ridiculous (See Country's Meant to Be -
#1 for 50 weeks - not the kind of thing we grew up with via Casey Kasem
countdowns, etc), it is still technically accurate as these songs are the most
consumed singles in their given genre over these vast stretches of time.


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 29 July 2019 at 2:32pm
Well, it's official. "Old Town Road" logs its 17th
consecutive week at #1 on the Hot 100. A new record.
We'll see how long it stands!


Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 29 July 2019 at 3:01pm
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

We'll see how long it stands!


I predict that it will stand for at least 17 weeks.

Ha. I funny.

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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 29 July 2019 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

Well, it's official. "Old Town Road" logs its 17th
consecutive week at #1 on the Hot 100. A new record.
We'll see how long it stands!


I'm curious to see if it will fend off another challenger to the throne and strand another song at #2 for the 8th time....


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 29 July 2019 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

We'll see how long it stands!


I predict that it will stand for at least 17 weeks.

Ha. I funny.


Pop Archivist say the future is ahead of you, the past is behind you. But the crapfromthepast will always remain...


Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 05 August 2019 at 11:59am
18 weeks now ... will it go for 19?


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 06 August 2019 at 9:28am
Originally posted by Bellenger1981 Bellenger1981 wrote:

18 weeks now ... will it go for 19?


Judging by the numbers, t looks like 19 weeks is all but
assured.


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 06 August 2019 at 9:59pm
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

Originally posted by Bellenger1981 Bellenger1981 wrote:

18 weeks now ... will it go for 19?


Judging by the numbers, t looks like 19 weeks is all but
assured.


I hear Taylor Swift is dropping her album the 23rd of August. Old Town Road might make it the rest of the month but supposedly she has her sights set on knocking it out of #1...remember she dethroned Despacito with Look What You Made Me Do a few years back.

Additional Note: Bad Guy has 8 total weeks at #2. It needs to keep tagging along 3 more weeks and it will set that record for most weeks at #2 without hitting #1..


Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 08 August 2019 at 6:16pm
Color me a bit disappointed. As a Mariah fan, I was
hoping she'd always have a share of that record. Oh
well, she held onto it for 24 years so I guess I can't
complain!

Oddly, the radio station I listen to just started
playing this about 6 weeks ago. I don't check
Billboard every week but was surprised when I came
back to it after several weeks that this song was
STILL No. 1.

It's not a bad song and I don't dislike it - but these
marathon runs at the top are surprising. I find it
hard to believe that any song could hold onto the top
spot for that long and still keep going - but here we
are and it's happening a lot more frequently.

I guess all records are made to be broken.


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 09 August 2019 at 12:31am
Originally posted by torcan torcan wrote:


It's not a bad song and I don't dislike it - but these
marathon runs at the top are surprising.


Not really all that surprising in this day and age of video and streaming consumption, digital downloads and social media mems.

Back when Debbie Boone or Olivia Newton John got 10 weeks at #1 there wasn't an internet that factored in. There also wasn't a digital push just a 45 one to sell records. Those were considered marathon runs. If you look back it wasn't until I Always Love You in 1992 by Whitney Houston that a song made it past 11 weeks. The reason that song had a marathon run was the movie and it was simply Houston covering a Dolly Parton classic at the peak of her popularity (she could sing no wrong..)

The biggest #1 hits are usually the songs everyone talks about anyways or were a craze (Macarena anyone?).

I don't see 18 weeks at #1 out of the norm. From 2010-2018 only one song got to even 16 weeks. To survive on the Billboard Hot 100 at #1 this many weeks means your numbers have to be massive.

Plus Despacito and One Sweet Day did not have multiple challengers to fend off while Old Town Road had two Shawn Mendes hits and two Taylor Swift hits to fend off on top of Billie's Bad Guy, which has now been a massive hit on its own even though it cant get to #1.

To put it simply Old Town Road came out on top in a more difficult time era where any new Drake, Swift or hot new act (or old one think Jonas Brothers) can vault to #1 any given day of the week if they hit it just right at release time and push a video and digital downloads and streaming to the extreme.

It only surprises me that none of the #2's knocked it out of #1 yet.


Posted By: jebsib
Date Posted: 10 August 2019 at 9:03am
The AC chart (Strictly radio airplay) just had Maroon 5 stay at #1 for 33 weeks,
so it's not just Streaming. Culturally we are listening longer.


Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 10 August 2019 at 1:56pm
Kind of makes you wonder if chart runs in the 60s & 70s
weren't artificially short. And back then stations didn't
have recurrent rotations for songs that had peaked...the
songs just dropped off and weren't played again for 6
months to a year when they became oldies (which back meant
1 or 2 gold tracks per hour so a given song didn't get
played much).


Posted By: Bellenger1981
Date Posted: 12 August 2019 at 2:30pm
19 weeks at No. 1. Will it make 20?


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 14 August 2019 at 4:41am
Originally posted by Bellenger1981 Bellenger1981 wrote:

19 weeks at No. 1. Will it make 20?


The raw numbers are starting to drop now. However, it
doesn't appear that anything is quite strong enough to
overtake it, at least for one more week. I predict it
gets to 20.


Posted By: jebsib
Date Posted: 14 August 2019 at 12:03pm
19 weeks is enough to make it the clear pop winner of all time (I say this
because there were always chart fans who would argue that "Near You" by
Francis Craig or "Iris" by Goo Goo Dolls were longer pop chart toppers at 17
and 18 weeks respectively (During eras when Airplay lists had similar
perceived weight of importance)


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 15 August 2019 at 9:03am
Originally posted by jebsib jebsib wrote:

19 weeks is enough to make it the clear pop winner of all time (I say this
because there were always chart fans who would argue that "Near You" by
Francis Craig or "Iris" by Goo Goo Dolls were longer pop chart toppers at 17
and 18 weeks respectively (During eras when Airplay lists had similar
perceived weight of importance)


Technically the original song was #1 for 1 week and the remix #1 for 18 weeks with Billy Ray Cyrus.

If not for the 90s airplay chart rules, Iris would have set the record a long time ago. Great song that deserved more than a #9 position once December 5, 1998 reset the charts to allow for airplay only hits.


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 19 August 2019 at 4:36am
My sources tell me that the point totals for "Old Town
Road" and "Bad Guy" will be VERY close this week. Guess
we'll find out soon enough.


Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 19 August 2019 at 4:51am
Originally posted by PopArchivist PopArchivist wrote:



If not for the 90s airplay chart rules, Iris would
have set the record a long time ago. Great song that
deserved more than a #9 position once December 5, 1998
reset the charts to allow for airplay only hits.


I seem to remember that Aerosmith's "I Don't Want To
Miss A Thing" was neck and neck with "Iris" on the
Airplay chart for at least several weeks, so I have to
wonder how many weeks "Iris" would have been #1 on the
Hot 100 if there had been a commercial single or if "I
Don't Want To Miss A Thing" had a single release
earlier than it did. Same thing with Celine Dion's "My
Heart Will Go On", which had a single release a few
months after it became an airplay hit. I'm sure it
would have had more than 2 weeks at #1 if it had a
commercial single right from the start.


Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 19 August 2019 at 5:05am
OK, I just heard this song for the first time over the
weekend (obviously, I don't really follow the charts much
anymore!), and for the life of me I don't see how this
could be the #1 song in the country for going on 5 months.
Was just kind of a "nothing" song to my ears...I didn't
hear anything special about it.

Can anyone give me a clue why this is such a big hit?


Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 19 August 2019 at 5:08am
From what I understand, streaming had a lot to do with
it.


Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 19 August 2019 at 1:46pm
Breaking news: Billie Eilish has just dethroned "Old
Town Road" at #1 after 19 weeks!


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 19 August 2019 at 6:13pm
Well strike Bad Guy off the list of #2's that never made #1.

I say Senorita will be overtaking it in a week or two. The backup has cleared up people, nothing to look at let's move on....:)


Posted By: Paul Haney
Date Posted: 20 August 2019 at 3:46am
Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

OK, I just heard this song for the first
time over the
weekend (obviously, I don't really follow the charts much
anymore!), and for the life of me I don't see how this
could be the #1 song in the country for going on 5
months.
Was just kind of a "nothing" song to my ears...I didn't
hear anything special about it.

Can anyone give me a clue why this is such a big hit?


It's just one of those songs that caught on with the
general public. The sheer novelty of a black rapper
doing a Country sounding song, then throw in Billy Ray
Cyrus for good measure, and you have a hit single in
2019. It set all kinds of streaming records and that's
what kept it at #1 for 19 weeks. Plus, other than a
couple of Taylor Swift songs, there really was nothing
big enough to knock it off. That Billie Eilish song was
a steady streaming hit that was finally able to surpass
"Old Town Road" this week.



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