Jay Ferguson - Shakedown Cruise
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Topic: Jay Ferguson - Shakedown Cruise
Posted By: PopArchivist
Subject: Jay Ferguson - Shakedown Cruise
Date Posted: 15 June 2019 at 1:39pm
| So I was working on the top 40 of 1979 and realized that Shakedown Cruise by Jay Ferguson in its 45 version is nowhere to be found on compact disc timing in at 3:12 (not 4:12, which is the LP version and an entirely different mix). Is it possible anyone knows if it is on an import or if the overseas 45's have a better quality pressing of the track? |
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 15 June 2019 at 2:21pm
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i have a fairly good 45 dub which i will send you.. ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 15 June 2019 at 3:14pm
| Thanks Ed, but there is a known issue with this particular 45. After getting in touch with Aaron the overseas 45 might have to be acquired to have any chance to have a good digital copy. Hopefully it will be better than the 45's produced here in the states. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 15 June 2019 at 3:23pm
Curiously what's the "known issue" with the 45? It's been years since I've played this, but I don't recall anything jumping out at me. |
PopArchivist wrote:Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 15 June 2019 at 6:32pm
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Hykker,
Aaron said that the 45's were not produced with great quality here in the US. Further complicating matters is that the LP and 45 are two different mixes. Aaron had to do a lot of attempts for example on Years by Wayne Newton because the quality of Curb's 45's were not great. I would assume its a similar issue here with this 45. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 June 2019 at 1:34am
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The "issue" I've run into with all US promo and stock copies is that they have a fair amount of distortion. I think it's a combination of questionable EQ choices and perhaps being pressed too hot. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 07 July 2019 at 9:07am
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Yes, the USA 45 was cut at really high levels, and was
hard to track without distortion or sibilance. Even the production room Thorens TD 124 Mk II, and SME 3009 II tonearm with Stanton 681A couldn't track it without breakup at work, at 3 grams tracking force (maximum for this stylus) ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 16 December 2019 at 11:40am
| It's looking highly unlikely this will ever make it to CD in its original 45 version or that a good drop of the 45 can be made. Probably one of the few tracks of the 70's top 40 that is not out there somewhere on a comp. |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 16 December 2019 at 2:18pm
| I only have the 45 version on the Asylum 'Spun Gold' reissue 45. I am by no means an audiophile, but I don't detect any distortion that jumps out at me. Unlike the vast, vast majority of the Elektra/Asylum 'Spun Gold' reissue 45s (which feature the LP versions), the 'Thunder Island' b/w 'Shakedown Cruise' reissue 45 features both songs in their 45 lengths/versions. |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 16 December 2019 at 2:42pm
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I too used the 'Spun Gold' reissue 45 for this song. It
sounds much better than the original pressing. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 16 December 2019 at 5:54pm
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Thanks for the tip about the Spun Gold reissue pressing.
I'll try hunting down a copy. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 16 December 2019 at 6:32pm
I agree it does sound much better and you did a great job. Sadly you are only as good as the source it comes from and its better than not having anything. It sucks when the LP version sounds great and gets the remastering and the 45 never gets to CD. So frustrating! |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 16 December 2019 at 6:35pm
According to Aaron the distortion is there. I hear it slightly even on Mark's copy (and that says something about how crappy the 45 source was). It is what it is. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 November 2021 at 8:11am
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A couple weeks ago, I finally found a CD source for the 45 version of "Shakedown Cruise." It's on a WEA v/a compilation called Memory Time Folge (Volume) 15, 1978-80. This is a German CD with 20 tracks and has a nice sampling of hits, all from master tape source.
https://www.discogs.com/release/13951427-Various-Memory-Time-Folge-15-1979-1980 - https://www.discogs.com/release/13951427-Various-Memory-Time -Folge-15-1979-1980 As far as the other tracks go, there doesn't appear to any other elusive 45 versions. "Give Me The Night" by George Benson is the same 3:40 early fade of the LP version. "Hot Legs" is the same 4:13 "neither" version that has shown up on other CDs. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 18 November 2021 at 1:43pm
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Does a good transfer of the LP version
exist digitally? Andy |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 November 2021 at 11:33pm
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I have the reissue on Collector's Choice, which I'm pretty sure is from tape source, if that's what you mean. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 19 November 2021 at 11:39pm
I'm pretty sure the 4:12 LP version sounds great. Never had an issue listening to it. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 20 November 2021 at 8:14am
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I'm happy to know that the Collector's Choice dub sounds
good. When the song was a hit, the TM 'Stereo Rock' format played an interesting special edit of the LP and single mixes. I can't remember the edit points; If I can find an old aircheck of it I may attempt it... I wouldn't be surprised if they made a special version of it because of the pressing qualities of the 45. The 'Stereo Rock' format paid amazing attention to sound quality for mid 70s radio programming. Andy |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 20 November 2021 at 11:26pm
I'm referring to the Rhino release on Rhino Hi-Five :Jay Ferguson. That is my go to version for the LP. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |