O.T. Billy Joel - New York State Of Mind
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Topic: O.T. Billy Joel - New York State Of Mind
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Subject: O.T. Billy Joel - New York State Of Mind
Date Posted: 19 July 2019 at 7:52am
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There were reputedly two different mixes of this popular
LP cut, but I can't find an alternate release. Does anyone know the true story and can show me examples of any differences (if there are really two different versions)? Thanks! Andy |
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Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 19 July 2019 at 9:32am
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An alternate sax solo was introduced at some point. If
you know one solo, you'll recognize the distinction right away. I'd be curious if anyone knows the story. Did the new one surface on the 1985 Greatest Hits package? |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 19 July 2019 at 1:16pm
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That's also what I've been told. But
I can only find one version. Maybe some one can point me to some samples for differences? Andy |
Posted By: eric_a
Date Posted: 19 July 2019 at 4:19pm
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Listen around 3:20 to hear the difference.
The Turnstiles solo starts with a few syncopated notes https://youtu.be/F5LkGKJDc3Q?t=200 - Turnstiles Version The Greatest Hits version starts with a faster run. https://youtu.be/gi96VndzVWQ?t=203 - Greatest Hits version There are also some clear differences in the coda. At 5:21, after "Cause I'm in", there's a sax fill on Turnstiles but no sax on GH. I did some reading on this earlier, and there may even be a third studio version. Between Wikipedia, StevE Hoffman boards, and Billy Joel fan boards, there's no clear agreement on the facts but it may be on the quad LP release. That said, it's still not clear to me as to why they replaced the original solo. |
Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 20 July 2019 at 6:28am
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Thank you Eric!
Thanks to your samples, I found out what my problem was! I own the 'Greatest Hits' CD & Vinyl; plus I own the 'Turnstiles' CD. The issue is that I own the 1998 REMASTER of 'Turnstiles'. The 1998 remaster I have is replaced with the 'Greatest Hits' version!! I hate when reissued CDs quietly swap-out versions. In my world it's revisionist history... Thanks again, Eric Andy |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 03 August 2019 at 3:03pm
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I'd never listened closely to both versions until now and you're correct about the two different versions/mixes. Great catch Andy and Eric. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 04 August 2019 at 5:27pm
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Is the original Turnstiles version available through a
Japanese pressing or import version perhaps? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 04 August 2019 at 6:29pm
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My CD of Turnstiles must not be the 1998 remaster because it has the original mix/version (Columbia 33848). ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: David Pro
Date Posted: 25 September 2020 at 6:16am
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There is a Japanese Billy Joel
compilation released in 1988 titled Starbox which contains the original version of "New York State of Mind". https://www.discogs.com/es/Billy- Joel-Star-Box/release/13041255 |
Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 25 September 2020 at 11:31am
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I had the original mix on the MFSL vinyl editon of
"Turnstiles". Never stumbled upon a CD with it, though I haven't really been actively seeking it. ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 25 September 2020 at 12:43pm
It doesn't need to be an import, the original 1987 US pressing has it, which is easily recognizable because it has the old "Compact Disc Digital Audio" logo in the lower right-hand corner on the front cover. The remaster does not have that logo on the cover. There are numerous copies available on Discogs for around two bucks apiece. https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-Turnstiles/release/3652082 - https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-Turnstiles/release/365208 2 It was also on the MoFi SACD remaster from a few years ago, but that goes for substantially more: https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-Turnstiles/release/3967135 - https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-Turnstiles/release/396713 5 |
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