Brothers Johnson - I’ll Be Good To You
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Topic: Brothers Johnson - I’ll Be Good To You
Posted By: jimct
Subject: Brothers Johnson - I’ll Be Good To You
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 3:12pm
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2 different stock 45 mixes: the first (deadwax AM-1806-12010-S P1) (listed time 3:30; actual 3:28) is much busier, featuring lots of extra early guitar licks, and a noticable 4-high-notes keyboard part in the background, both at the :29 to :46 mark, and again around 1:30-ish. For some reason, I especially loved that keyboard part. At first, my local station played this v, and my purchased stock 45 was the same. 3 weeks later, it all changed - now, a much sparser mix on the radio; most of the extra early guitar licks are now gone, all the non-hook keyboard is gone. The 1st version always sang the title "I'll--Be--Good to you, Good...". This 2nd mix does too, but now adds a quick "I'll Be Good To You" vocal in the middle. Deadwax for this one is (AM 1806-12010-S RE-1 P-2.) This second 45 became the "definitive" mix (but never to me); stated and actual run time (3:30).
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Posted By: Jeff H.
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 4:38pm
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It's likely that the 45(s) of "I'll Be Good To You" is a different mix than the more commonly found LP mix that runs 4:44. Like most Quincy Jones productions, he and whatever engineers he was working with would mix tracks specifically for single release. This was to make the 45's sound as good as they possibly could and cut down on any cutting problems that might arise. I recently discovered that Quincy's own song "Body Heat" has significant mix differences on the single than it does on the LP.
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Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 4:53pm
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The version I heard on the radio in 1976 AND what appears on Rhino's "didn't it blow your mind" CD series is just an edited version of the LP version. I have never heard of, or even heard this earlier mix.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 18 October 2007 at 10:32pm
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Has the 3:28 45 version ever appeared on CD? There are some database CDs that run 3:27 and 3:29, and others that run 3:30 or 3:31. Are these all the same version? If so, it would be great if the comment "3:30 45 version" was added to all these CDs.
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 11:19pm
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Aaron, I've had the very same question regarding the 45 version appearances of Brothers Johnson's "I'll Be Good to You" on CD. I agree that it would be very helpful if the database could specify which "45 version" entries consist of the first pressing (the original 45 mix) and which consist of the second pressing.
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Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 7:28am
First pressings had the original single mix. Second pressings on were an Edit of the LP mix. The first version is also in my opinion superior. Should be reissued.
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Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 3:19pm
Just so we are clear here, which one is the same mix as the
album?
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 3:59pm
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The second 45 pressing is the same as the LP mix, Hits Man.
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 12 December 2010 at 4:46pm
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I have been looking unsuccessfully for the first pressing of this 45 for years so I can correctly detail the various entries in the database If anyone can point out a cd in the database that contains this first pressing then I can go through and check every cd and enter the appropriate comment. Otherwise can anyone with the first pressing of this 45 send me an mp3 of the 45?
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 12 December 2010 at 8:14pm
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It's on the way to you, Pat!
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 04 September 2016 at 7:32pm
No big surprises with this one.
Non-hit first 45 version
Catalog number A&M 1806, matrix number AM-1806-12010-S P1. Printed time of 3:30, actual time of 3:28. Played with a live drummer and a click track; runs at 98.6 BPM throughout.
Very busy intro, and overall, a more cluttered arrangement than what would follow.
Like many of Quincy Jones's original mixes ("Rock With You", "Give Me The Night", etc.), this one went missing in the digital age and doesn't exist on CD.
Hit second 45 version
Catalog number A&M 1806, matrix number AM 1806-12010-S RE-1 P-2. Printed time of 3:30, actual time of 3:30. Runs at 97.8 BPM throughout.
Much simpler mix, and this is the one that clicked with radio.
The hit second 45 version is on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 18 1976 Take Two (1991), where it sounds fine at runs at 98.6 BPM.
Bill Inglot did a new analog transfer for Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 18 (1995), where it sounds just a tiny bit better than Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 18 1976 Take Two. It runs 98.0 BPM here. There's a differently-EQ'd digital clone of Didn't on Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 11 1976 (1996). Either one of these would be my choice for the hit second 45 version.
LP version
Based on other people's comments, it appears that there's only one version of the LP version, running 4:44, and being the same mix as the hit second 45. Specifically, the hit second 45 version is edited down from the LP version. I don't think there's a 4:44 version with the non-hit first 45 mix.
The first CD to include the LP version is A&M's Brothers Johnson anthology Classics Vol. 11 (1987), where it sounds fine, and runs at 98.1 BPM throughout. The same analog transfer is used for:- Razor & Tie's 2-CD Sweet '70s Soul (1991; hastens fade by a few seconds)
- Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 4 Together Forever (1996; differently-EQ'd digital clone)
- A&M's Brothers Johnson anthology Greatest Hits (1996)
- Time-Life's 2-CD Body And Soul Vol. 3 Sweet Seduction (1998; differently-EQ'd digital clone)
If I had to pick, I'd vote for Classics Vol. 11 (1987) as my choice for the LP version.
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Posted By: WWYW-FM
Date Posted: 04 April 2021 at 2:57pm
Does anyone know where the edits on the 4:44 LP version are to make the 45
(2nd hit version)? I'm struggling a bit to find something to compare to online to
know which version(s) I'm listening to.
If anyone has made this edit, I'd love to hear about it!
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