OT Tommy Conwell - If We Never Meet Again
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Topic: OT Tommy Conwell - If We Never Meet Again
Posted By: thecdguy
Subject: OT Tommy Conwell - If We Never Meet Again
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 7:33am
Peaked just under the Top 40 (#48 in 1989). 45 label states a running time of 3:57, just want to know if anyone has this 45 and can confirm the length. Also would like to know if the Single Version is on CD anywhere. Only Discogs listing for a CD Single is in the UK which has the Album Version running about 4:41. There's also a European 3" CD Single that has the song and his previous chart hit, "I'm Not Your Man" as well as one more song, but no running times are listed for any of them. Any help is appreciated with this.
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Dan In Philly
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 8:50am
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Dan, My 45 RPM single, Columbia 38-08505, has a stated time of 3:57, but actually has a run time of 4:17.6. The Tommy Conwell CD does not state what the time is, but I will put it in the player and report back.
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 9:04am
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I'm back. The Tommy Conwell 'Rumble' (Columbia CK-44186) CD runs 4:44 total with .03 seconds silence at the end of the track, so, 4:41 total. On the CD, 'If we never meet again' ends cold and the 45 single fades. So it does not appear that the single has any edits. I can report back with the fade start point, if you already have the CD. -Bill.
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Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 9:30am
Yes, thanks Bill, that would be great. I do have the CD
and even though I don't know how to do edits, I can
definitely do early fades.
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Dan In Philly
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 12:43pm
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I guess I may have bitten off more than I can chew. 1) there is a speed difference. 2) The CD has 2 choruses at the end and then about 15 seconds of instrumentation before the cold ending. The single starts a third chorus before it fades out completely. I haven't checked mix differences. EEEK!! -Bill.
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Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 1:30pm
That's ok. Thanks for taking the time to check for me, I do appreciate it.
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Dan In Philly
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 2:46pm
I have a file from TM Studios. The fade starts at 3:58 on
the byes of goodbyes and fades completely out by 4:12 on
the at the end of the word again.
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John Gallagher
Erie, PA
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 3:22pm
I have both the full-length CD Rumble and the promo 45. Time permitting, I'll compare the two.
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Aaron Kannowski
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 31 March 2020 at 1:58pm
I had a chance to A/B the 45 and CD today, and the 45 version is an edit of the LP version. There are three edits in total:
1. 0:07.8 to 0:15.8 deleted (intro cut in half)
2. 2:58.2 to 3:02.2 deleted (instrumental section slightly trimmed)
3. 4:01.3 to 4:17.3 looped and then faded out
There are no mix differences and no significant speed differences between the 45 and CD.
The TM Century copy John references comes from a HitDisc and is NOT correct. Rather than dubbing the 45 from vinyl, they attempted to re-create the edit. The edit points are slightly off, and they did not loop the ending.
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Aaron Kannowski
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 06 April 2020 at 9:02am
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Thanks Aaron! I was stumped. I A-B'd them at 2:40 and at 3:15, and thought they were only a little bit off. I 'assumed' it was a speed difference. Certainly the Columbia engineers wouldn't trim a few seconds in the middle of the song! The loop at the end made sense. Thanks again! -Bill.
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Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 27 April 2025 at 8:56am
I just noticed on eBay that there was a Promo CD Single issued for the song, even though it's not listed on Discogs. It states a running time of 4:41, which means it's most likely the Album Version, unless of course the timing is wrong. I'm surprised Columbia Records didn't put the 4:17 Edit on the Promo like they did with the edit of "I'm Not Your Man" on its Promo CD Single.
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Dan In Philly
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 27 April 2025 at 12:05pm
I bought the CD from eBay, and I'm happy to unseal it and find out if the timing is wrong. I hadn't previously seen that promo CD, and I'll also add it to Discogs when it arrives.
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Aaron Kannowski
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Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 27 April 2025 at 12:27pm
That's very kind Aaron, Thank You!
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Dan In Philly
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